If we have no plan to get a top 10 PG we'd be better letting Melo walk.

Sambakick wrote:

Knicks22 wrote:
Its not just the money. He's played remarkably hard this year, compliments to him. HOwever - there are no assets in cap space or pick to 'build around him', and, much more importantly, what evidence is there that he can or will be able to work with others? Amare/MDA/Lin - all were ignored, or rebuffed.
We keep forgetting pre-injury how bad rthe chemistry was with Amare. Melo insisted ball go through him, no accomodation to MDA/Amare....... whose to say he would with any other star (even if they could get them here?)

Both parties would be better off with him elsewhere.

Melo and Amare played well together dude. It wasn't til Tyson Chandler came that Amare didn't fit anymore.

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Sambakick wrote:

Knicks22 wrote:
Its not just the money. He's played remarkably hard this year, compliments to him. HOwever - there are no assets in cap space or pick to 'build around him', and, much more importantly, what evidence is there that he can or will be able to work with others? Amare/MDA/Lin - all were ignored, or rebuffed.
We keep forgetting pre-injury how bad rthe chemistry was with Amare. Melo insisted ball go through him, no accomodation to MDA/Amare....... whose to say he would with any other star (even if they could get them here?)

Both parties would be better off with him elsewhere.

Melo and Amare played well together dude. It wasn't til Tyson Chandler came that Amare didn't fit anymore.

Not really. The team played .500 ball that first year with Amare and Melo together.

is that their fault? There was a pg adjusting to a different style. Billups was used to a slow pace walk it up let me post up and work through me down low style. Offensively Melo and Amar'e usually work well but defensively no one works well with Amar'e. It's impossible. A smart coach would really run a lot of pnr with the two but that works to well for some coaches.

I wasn't assigning blame - that's going to take the thread in a whole different direction. I was just pointing out his statement was wrong.

Sambakick wrote:If we sign Carmelo we need to get a top 10 PG. There is no other way. Melo needs a good PG. Melo goes off the rails when he is the entire offense, takes some shots he shouldn't take or wouldn't take if he had faith that the offense would generate points without him needing to force it up.

If we have no plan to get a top 10 PG we'd be better letting Melo walk.

Top 10...I'd settle for a PG that is a legit NBA starter at this point.

fishmike wrote:

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

Sambakick wrote:If we sign Carmelo we need to get a top 10 PG. There is no other way. Melo needs a good PG. Melo goes off the rails when he is the entire offense, takes some shots he shouldn't take or wouldn't take if he had faith that the offense would generate points without him needing to force it up.

If we have no plan to get a top 10 PG we'd be better letting Melo walk.

Top 10...I'd settle for a PG that is a legit NBA starter at this point.

the improvement would be paramount.

My biggest MO for resigning Melo is value. He continues to get better and has huge value.

Sign Melo to a reasonable contract, something in the 20 million dollar range for the 5 years. If he balks and insists on a max deal, let him go. New York has inherent value when it comes to marketing. Please don't speak to me about respect. 20 million a year is a lot of respect. This dollar will allow us to move forward with our rebuild.

Bonn1997 wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:I love Kevin Love but not with Melo.

I agree but he probably won't come here without Melo, which makes the whole plan irrelevant.
There's no way I'm using up 3/4 of the cap on those two, which would basically leave room for nothing but league min players or maybe one good vet role player plus league min players

Agreed but then again, I feel players shouldn't be signed to max contracts unless you are guaranteeing yourself a championship. By you, I am actually excluding James Dolan because if he had a bunch of worms teaming up with Melo, he would still guarantee a championship.

Just clear the capspace, keep next years draft pick, try and raise Chandlers and Shumperts value and maybe even Smiths and Feltons. We aren't winning anything anytime soon anyway so you might as well show some patience unless something super worth it falls in your lap.

Allanfan20 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:I love Kevin Love but not with Melo.

I agree but he probably won't come here without Melo, which makes the whole plan irrelevant.
There's no way I'm using up 3/4 of the cap on those two, which would basically leave room for nothing but league min players or maybe one good vet role player plus league min players

Agreed but then again, I feel players shouldn't be signed to max contracts unless you are guaranteeing yourself a championship. By you, I am actually excluding James Dolan because if he had a bunch of worms teaming up with Melo, he would still guarantee a championship.

Just clear the capspace, keep next years draft pick, try and raise Chandlers and Shumperts value and maybe even Smiths and Feltons. We aren't winning anything anytime soon anyway so you might as well show some patience unless something super worth it falls in your lap.

And I would hire Patrick Ewing as my Head Coach - starphuch that way so you still can sell seats.

Guarantee that we would have a team that tries - as opposed to this bunch.

And I would watch them on TV. Its hard with this group, because its clear they should be able to do better.

So, mark it down.