tkf wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

tkf wrote:WAY To much blame on woodson around here.. way too much blame.. this just leads me to believe that some of you still haven't come to terms that this team isn't that good, bad mix of talent, overpaid allstars and no leadership... Red Auerbach wouldn't win with this bunch...

woodson is a very flawed coach, but too much blame going to him..

Sorry but gonna have to disagree on that this team is pretty talented, woody just does not have the balls to make change for good... Also his melo substitution is the worst I've seen. Melo should come out around 5 minutes left in each of the three quarters. That 15 minutes plus time out time and halftime . Then play him through out the fourth when it matters most. We are loosing games solely on the fact melo is exhausted in the fourth.

Talent wise. We should be around 40 to 50 wins with this team. A good coach would send Felton to the bench, as well as shump, I wanna say chandler too because Tyler has way more upside. Amare needs to start he is too talented to sit the bench and he's one of the best clutch players in the game still and woody still rides him on the pine when it counts.

The way this team should be played is. Jr,thjr,melo,Amare,Tyler with chandler, shump, Felton, prigs. hopefully jimmer too.

Now let's look at that starting line up everyone can hit open shots so a defense can't take a break or double team with out being punished. Jr I've considered our best floor general for some time now.
Thjr would feast on opposing defense leaving him open to double team melo or amare, same goes for Tyler who can hit anything inside the three point line. Also the guy is a beast on the boards and he'll only get better with time. So let's look at the bench, chandler can give you a solid 20 off the bench. Hopefully play some defense grab some boards. Shump can come in and add some energy,Felton and prigs are solid back ups in this league .

That rotation would be in the playoffs and above 500 mark my words. Also keeps injury prone players fresh and ready like chandler,shump,Felton.

Now what would you rather have woodys starting line up which is 15 under 500, and can't hit open shots and relies on pick and rolls with chandler who can only dunk and if he puts the ball on the floor 70 percent of the time it's a turnover.

Or the line up I listed above ... Don't talk about how bad the defense would be. We are already one of the worst defensive teams with chandler in the starting line up.. He does not help much.

that just tells me all I need to know about the grasp you have on this team and how good they are. and with that, I won't debate this any further as I think it will be futile..

Amare needs to start he is too talented to sit the bench and he's one of the best clutch players in the game still and woody still rides him on the pine when it counts.

wow, I did have to respond to this. I am a huge amare fan, or used to be, but this just delusional.. amare can't start on those knees, and one of the best clutch players in the game? really.. I find it hard to believe that you think sitting felton, chandler and shumpert and playing the guys we have on this bench will result in a 50 win team.... wow!!!

so last year, woodson is coach, we win 54 games.. carmelo as most of you said is having a better year than last year... so basically we are going to be around 20 games worse than last year or more.. and all of that is because of woodson? what did he do differently last year? or maybe Jason kidd was just that good for us? Your argument doesn't fit... And if you say chandler, felton and shumpert are not playing well, then how is that on woodson? If benching them is an option then I don't see how you can expect 40-50 wins with guys like tyler.. come on bro..

Sorry brotha but yes this team has the talent to win in the nba.. It's how you use your talent. Amare is still great yea those knees are shaken, but at this point if amare goes down with another knee injury he's prob going to retire. Let him go down on top he's still our second best scorer. Yes before woody banished him to a reserve role he was very clutch before melo came here he sealed the deal in a lot of games. The whole myth that amare and melo can't play together is crap. Tyson gets more pick and rolls then amare which blows my mind. If anything chandler is and should be the odd man out not amare.

As for Tyler he needs more minutes. And yes boost his confidence up by starting him, he gives you way more on offense then chandler could dream of. Also we need a coach that gets the whole team involved in the offense. Run some plays for Tyler, he's great with his back to the basket. He's also a athletic freak who can run the floor and throw it down with fierceness.

We need a coach that knows how to own his team like Reily and jvg. I don't think pat or jvg would care if Tyson bitched on the bench or Felton. They would simply tell them I'm here to win and you guys can't hit the side of a barn.

Also stop taking out players because they turned the ball over.. Exp Tyler hits a turn a round jumper and a dunk then gets striped the third time down and gets taken out of the game and gets a earful. I'm like wtf Imagine if woody disaplained everyone on the team the same. Tyson would never see the floor with the rate he turns the ball over same with Felton's inability to hit open shots. Like I said this isn't high school where you play favorites. Play the players that give you the best chance to win. And right now woody is not doing that, where is the punishment when Tyson repeatedly lets the opposing guards get open lay ups.