holfresh wrote:

RonRon wrote:

holfresh wrote:

RonRon wrote:

holfresh wrote:

RonRon wrote:

holfresh wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Is to put together a note co signed by hundred of thousands of knick fans in a petition letter to both David stern and Adam silver about the removal of James Dolan from the basketball operations of the team. As in he will have no say. The team and its fans have realized material loss of capital and emotional resource over a 15 year period and the only uptick was brought on by the leagues actions to hire D Walsh. Since that time Dolan has started up again. Firing gm glen Grunwald and not making moves directed by top level management. Also there seems to be a conflict of interest between MSG and caa which is not in the fans best interests. The nba game is supposed to be about fans watching good quality basketball and for 15 years while knick fans have paid the highest prices in terms of tix and cable tv. MSG. We have not received fair value back from our collective material investment that has made billions for James Dolan and only MSG shareholders. My name is Eric naarden and I'm willing to put up 5k of my own$ to start a fair and reasonable campaign to remove this man from taking part of 1further basketball decisions. While fans were paying money to watch the knicks lose this man was on tour with his band. Does this sound like a person who should have any say15 years says no. You guys help put this together. Well put some money together and we will and can get this man who has proven that he has zero basketball operational acumen over a 15 year period moved out of any role for the basketball side of business

The guy the NBA supposedly hired to right the franchise brought in the wrong coach then gave Amare 100 mil...It's the primary reason we suck right now...Now we look forward to 2015 when his deal rolls off...

No, Melo and Amare would never work together, they are both flawed players, while we traded half a team + 3 picks and a swap, on top of selling low for our players and buying high for one player

Amare was signed before Lebron announced he was joining the Heat
By signing Amare, Walsh hoped to sign another ALL STAR or trade for one *at the right price*
He wanted to fill the seats like Dolan wanted but still try to build a contender, on top of giving Dantoni players to use for his system

He is part of the problem but NOT bigger than the trade for Melo and all the moves we were forced to make with no leverage after it

Continue to deflect what Melo isn't, a SUPERSTAR to build around......

Two major issues have us here now and u don't have to agree..We hired MDA who needed a pick and roll PF for his highly specialized style of play...In comes Amare...MDA's defensive system sucked so bad that we needed to go out and get Chandler to sure up the defense instead of a legit PG...MDA had 4 HOF players last year and couldn't make heads or tails of them because he couldn't run a pick and roll offense...He was blaming DHow and Gasol for the Lakers problems...

Now please explain to me how trading for Melo hurt this team when Wilson Chandler is playing his first full season since the trade 3 years ago, Gallo is and will be out of action a year and half...And please explain how flawed Melo is giving you 28 points 9 rebounds per game, never been done since Shaq...If you are not KD or LBJ then you are flawed..

Do you really want to talk about selling low and buying high??...Care to examine Walsh's deals while he had total control???..We managed to trade ZBo, DLee and Craw and didn't get 1 pick from those players, not one pick???

it doesn't matter what I say, You will continue your BS nomatter what I say

I roll is facts not hypothesis...

I have explained it countless times, you continue to post the same garbage

Despite our record, our lack of assets, all the moves we have made from the trade for Melo to now you give 0% of how he could have been prevented it
ALL FOR 1 year of GUARANTEED MONEY SO HE CAN OPT OUT OF THAT GUARANTEED YEAR

Explain that, facts

Lack of assets????...Melo is an asset, Chandler is an asset, Shump is an asset, Tim Jr is an asset...

One question for you since you think Denver have our assets and we have none, who had a better last year JR Smith or Gallo??..Look up the numbers JR Smith and Gallo are identical in production...But we regard one as an asset and will pay him a lot more money than the other...I'll take the cheaper guy for the same production..

Denver has won more games than us in the harder Conference EVERY YEAR since the trade
We have gotten out of the 2nd round once, Denver has made the playoffs ever year

So who was built to WIN NOW?
Who has assets?
What is their payroll

Despite their injuries, they are still the better team, so bash all Knick's players if it makes you feel any better

You are a joke, I shouldn't even bother responding to your junk, all you do is defer blame

RonRon wrote:

holfresh wrote:

RonRon wrote:

holfresh wrote:

RonRon wrote:

holfresh wrote:

RonRon wrote:

holfresh wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Is to put together a note co signed by hundred of thousands of knick fans in a petition letter to both David stern and Adam silver about the removal of James Dolan from the basketball operations of the team. As in he will have no say. The team and its fans have realized material loss of capital and emotional resource over a 15 year period and the only uptick was brought on by the leagues actions to hire D Walsh. Since that time Dolan has started up again. Firing gm glen Grunwald and not making moves directed by top level management. Also there seems to be a conflict of interest between MSG and caa which is not in the fans best interests. The nba game is supposed to be about fans watching good quality basketball and for 15 years while knick fans have paid the highest prices in terms of tix and cable tv. MSG. We have not received fair value back from our collective material investment that has made billions for James Dolan and only MSG shareholders. My name is Eric naarden and I'm willing to put up 5k of my own$ to start a fair and reasonable campaign to remove this man from taking part of 1further basketball decisions. While fans were paying money to watch the knicks lose this man was on tour with his band. Does this sound like a person who should have any say15 years says no. You guys help put this together. Well put some money together and we will and can get this man who has proven that he has zero basketball operational acumen over a 15 year period moved out of any role for the basketball side of business

The guy the NBA supposedly hired to right the franchise brought in the wrong coach then gave Amare 100 mil...It's the primary reason we suck right now...Now we look forward to 2015 when his deal rolls off...

No, Melo and Amare would never work together, they are both flawed players, while we traded half a team + 3 picks and a swap, on top of selling low for our players and buying high for one player

Amare was signed before Lebron announced he was joining the Heat
By signing Amare, Walsh hoped to sign another ALL STAR or trade for one *at the right price*
He wanted to fill the seats like Dolan wanted but still try to build a contender, on top of giving Dantoni players to use for his system

He is part of the problem but NOT bigger than the trade for Melo and all the moves we were forced to make with no leverage after it

Continue to deflect what Melo isn't, a SUPERSTAR to build around......

Two major issues have us here now and u don't have to agree..We hired MDA who needed a pick and roll PF for his highly specialized style of play...In comes Amare...MDA's defensive system sucked so bad that we needed to go out and get Chandler to sure up the defense instead of a legit PG...MDA had 4 HOF players last year and couldn't make heads or tails of them because he couldn't run a pick and roll offense...He was blaming DHow and Gasol for the Lakers problems...

Now please explain to me how trading for Melo hurt this team when Wilson Chandler is playing his first full season since the trade 3 years ago, Gallo is and will be out of action a year and half...And please explain how flawed Melo is giving you 28 points 9 rebounds per game, never been done since Shaq...If you are not KD or LBJ then you are flawed..

Do you really want to talk about selling low and buying high??...Care to examine Walsh's deals while he had total control???..We managed to trade ZBo, DLee and Craw and didn't get 1 pick from those players, not one pick???

it doesn't matter what I say, You will continue your BS nomatter what I say

I roll is facts not hypothesis...

I have explained it countless times, you continue to post the same garbage

Despite our record, our lack of assets, all the moves we have made from the trade for Melo to now you give 0% of how he could have been prevented it
ALL FOR 1 year of GUARANTEED MONEY SO HE CAN OPT OUT OF THAT GUARANTEED YEAR

Explain that, facts

Lack of assets????...Melo is an asset, Chandler is an asset, Shump is an asset, Tim Jr is an asset...

One question for you since you think Denver have our assets and we have none, who had a better last year JR Smith or Gallo??..Look up the numbers JR Smith and Gallo are identical in production...But we regard one as an asset and will pay him a lot more money than the other...I'll take the cheaper guy for the same production..

Denver has won more games than us in the harder Conference EVERY YEAR since the trade
We have gotten out of the 2nd round once, Denver has made the playoffs ever year

So who was built to WIN NOW?
Who has assets?
What is their payroll

Despite their injuries, they are still the better team, so bash all Knick's players if it makes you feel any better

You are a joke, I shouldn't even bother responding to your junk, all you do is defer blame

In other words, Gallo's production was easily replaced, but people here regard his departure as a major loss without examining the facts...

Put it simply.....Melo and JR Smith >>>>>>>> Gallo, Wison Chandler, and Mozgov....Facts, not using the great monicker of "assets" to describe the great unknown players we lost...Their salaries might even match off too...

Denver win games at home because of their location not their play..Their altitude won games for them..Please explain why a team who was 38-3 at home had a losing record on the road and was bumped in the first round???..You poo poo us getting to the second round only once since the trade and herald Denver getting to the playoffs and being bounced in the first round every time...

U don't know how to respond because the facts are not on your side...

azamatbagatov wrote:Lol at the guy who defended every second of the Isiah era and was wrong every step of the way expecting anyone to respect his opinion on anything Knicks related

At least I don't hide in the shadows and take swipes at posters as the time suits..Be a man come out of the shadows and speak up..Do you have an opinion and just like shooting off at the mousth when the opportunity presents itself...What is your opinion??..Less than 300 post in 7 years and u have an opinion now???

Dude, I don't even know how you can show your face here as wrong as you were and as vicisiously as you defended that clown. You were galactically wrong for about 6 years now we are supposed to respect your opinion on anything Knicks related?!? GTFO

RonRon wrote:

holfresh wrote:

RonRon wrote:

holfresh wrote:

RonRon wrote:

holfresh wrote:

RonRon wrote:

holfresh wrote:

RonRon wrote:

holfresh wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Is to put together a note co signed by hundred of thousands of knick fans in a petition letter to both David stern and Adam silver about the removal of James Dolan from the basketball operations of the team. As in he will have no say. The team and its fans have realized material loss of capital and emotional resource over a 15 year period and the only uptick was brought on by the leagues actions to hire D Walsh. Since that time Dolan has started up again. Firing gm glen Grunwald and not making moves directed by top level management. Also there seems to be a conflict of interest between MSG and caa which is not in the fans best interests. The nba game is supposed to be about fans watching good quality basketball and for 15 years while knick fans have paid the highest prices in terms of tix and cable tv. MSG. We have not received fair value back from our collective material investment that has made billions for James Dolan and only MSG shareholders. My name is Eric naarden and I'm willing to put up 5k of my own$ to start a fair and reasonable campaign to remove this man from taking part of 1further basketball decisions. While fans were paying money to watch the knicks lose this man was on tour with his band. Does this sound like a person who should have any say15 years says no. You guys help put this together. Well put some money together and we will and can get this man who has proven that he has zero basketball operational acumen over a 15 year period moved out of any role for the basketball side of business

The guy the NBA supposedly hired to right the franchise brought in the wrong coach then gave Amare 100 mil...It's the primary reason we suck right now...Now we look forward to 2015 when his deal rolls off...

No, Melo and Amare would never work together, they are both flawed players, while we traded half a team + 3 picks and a swap, on top of selling low for our players and buying high for one player

Amare was signed before Lebron announced he was joining the Heat
By signing Amare, Walsh hoped to sign another ALL STAR or trade for one *at the right price*
He wanted to fill the seats like Dolan wanted but still try to build a contender, on top of giving Dantoni players to use for his system

He is part of the problem but NOT bigger than the trade for Melo and all the moves we were forced to make with no leverage after it

Continue to deflect what Melo isn't, a SUPERSTAR to build around......

Two major issues have us here now and u don't have to agree..We hired MDA who needed a pick and roll PF for his highly specialized style of play...In comes Amare...MDA's defensive system sucked so bad that we needed to go out and get Chandler to sure up the defense instead of a legit PG...MDA had 4 HOF players last year and couldn't make heads or tails of them because he couldn't run a pick and roll offense...He was blaming DHow and Gasol for the Lakers problems...

Now please explain to me how trading for Melo hurt this team when Wilson Chandler is playing his first full season since the trade 3 years ago, Gallo is and will be out of action a year and half...And please explain how flawed Melo is giving you 28 points 9 rebounds per game, never been done since Shaq...If you are not KD or LBJ then you are flawed..

Do you really want to talk about selling low and buying high??...Care to examine Walsh's deals while he had total control???..We managed to trade ZBo, DLee and Craw and didn't get 1 pick from those players, not one pick???

it doesn't matter what I say, You will continue your BS nomatter what I say

I roll is facts not hypothesis...

I have explained it countless times, you continue to post the same garbage

Despite our record, our lack of assets, all the moves we have made from the trade for Melo to now you give 0% of how he could have been prevented it
ALL FOR 1 year of GUARANTEED MONEY SO HE CAN OPT OUT OF THAT GUARANTEED YEAR

Explain that, facts

Lack of assets????...Melo is an asset, Chandler is an asset, Shump is an asset, Tim Jr is an asset...

One question for you since you think Denver have our assets and we have none, who had a better last year JR Smith or Gallo??..Look up the numbers JR Smith and Gallo are identical in production...But we regard one as an asset and will pay him a lot more money than the other...I'll take the cheaper guy for the same production..

Denver has won more games than us in the harder Conference EVERY YEAR since the trade
We have gotten out of the 2nd round once, Denver has made the playoffs ever year

So who was built to WIN NOW?
Who has assets?
What is their payroll

Despite their injuries, they are still the better team, so bash all Knick's players if it makes you feel any better

You are a joke, I shouldn't even bother responding to your junk, all you do is defer blame

In other words, Gallo's production was easily replaced, but people here regard his departure as a major loss without examining the facts...

Put it simply.....Melo and JR Smith >>>>>>>> Gallo, Wison Chandler, and Mozgov....Facts, not using the great monicker of "assets" to describe the great unknown players we lost...Their salaries might even match off too...

Denver win games at home because of their location not their play..Their altitude won games for them..Please explain why a team who was 38-3 at home had a losing record on the road and was bumped in the first round???..You poo poo us getting to the second round only once since the trade and herald Denver getting to the playoffs and being bounced in the first round every time...

U don't know how to respond because the facts are not on your side...

you forget to mention the 3 draft picks, one of which we are looking to handover a lottery pick this summer
The 50m we saved Denver that year in salaries/taxes
The 1st round draft pick that Felton was traded for with Miller

I don't need to explain because you will think you are right even when I proved you were wrong, answer...

1- Who won more games every year since trade? Is the Western or Eastern Conference tougher?

2- Why did we trade for Melo so he can get his extra year of salary, when he is going to opt out of it? Why give up any assets, including this year's pick? We could have signed Melo and used those assets for the 3rd star in a trade for Cp3, Harden, D12...

3- We saved Denver 50m in salaries and taxes combined with the trade, what value does that hold? 50m is a lot of money, even to a Billionaire...

azamatbagatov wrote:My bad, I'll get less fresh air and play less real basketball so I can talk about it more on here to holfresh's liking. I love guys like you that equate post count to knowledge. You post all the time on here and it's obvious you don't know ****.

Dude, I don't even know how you can show your face here as wrong as you were and as vicisiously as you defended that clown. You were galactically wrong for about 6 years now we are supposed to respect your opinion on anything Knicks related?!? GTFO

If you are going to take shots at someone be a man about it...It's easy to lurk and don't put your thoughts in the line of fire then claim you are right and everyone else is wrong...Yeah I was wrong about Isiah but at least I had the guts to put my opinion out there and not run and hide and change my name...It just make u look small taking cheap shots because it's easy to do it...Man up, state an opinion, put something in the line of fire then step up and shoot your mouth off..If u can't lay it on the line then u take shots, well it makes u look like a loser...But hey, if thats how u roll and why u signed up then what can I say...

azamatbagatov wrote:

holfresh wrote:

azamatbagatov wrote:My bad, I'll get less fresh air and play less real basketball so I can talk about it more on here to holfresh's liking. I love guys like you that equate post count to knowledge. You post all the time on here and it's obvious you don't know ****.

Dude, I don't even know how you can show your face here as wrong as you were and as vicisiously as you defended that clown. You were galactically wrong for about 6 years now we are supposed to respect your opinion on anything Knicks related?!? GTFO

If you are going to take shots at someone be a man about it...It's easy to lurk and don't put your thoughts in the line of fire then claim you are right and everyone else is wrong...Yeah I was wrong about Isiah but at least I had the guts to put my opinion out there...It just make u look small taking cheap shots because it's easy to do it...Man up, state an opinion, put something in the line of fire then step up and shoot your mouth off..If u can't lay it on the line then u take shots, well it makes u look like a loser...But hey, if thats how u roll and why u signed up then what can I say...

What are you talking about?? I did and do put my opinion out there. It's how I remembered just how unbelievably wrong you were on Isiah. That's what it's such a joke watching you spout off on Walsh with such venom while you defended a far worse GM and coach with such vigor.

If Iwas wrong as much and as bad as you were, I would be a little more humble since you are more than likely to be just as wrong again.

dk7th wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:You can't just remove an owner. This is like getting a bunch of people to sign a paper telling the city mayor that a pizzeria near you serves poor food and you want the city to find a new owner.

but can the league suspend an owner? worked great for the yankees.

azamatbagatov wrote:

holfresh wrote:

azamatbagatov wrote:

holfresh wrote:

azamatbagatov wrote:My bad, I'll get less fresh air and play less real basketball so I can talk about it more on here to holfresh's liking. I love guys like you that equate post count to knowledge. You post all the time on here and it's obvious you don't know ****.

Dude, I don't even know how you can show your face here as wrong as you were and as vicisiously as you defended that clown. You were galactically wrong for about 6 years now we are supposed to respect your opinion on anything Knicks related?!? GTFO

If you are going to take shots at someone be a man about it...It's easy to lurk and don't put your thoughts in the line of fire then claim you are right and everyone else is wrong...Yeah I was wrong about Isiah but at least I had the guts to put my opinion out there...It just make u look small taking cheap shots because it's easy to do it...Man up, state an opinion, put something in the line of fire then step up and shoot your mouth off..If u can't lay it on the line then u take shots, well it makes u look like a loser...But hey, if thats how u roll and why u signed up then what can I say...

What are you talking about?? I did and do put my opinion out there. It's how I remembered just how unbelievably wrong you were on Isiah. That's what it's such a joke watching you spout off on Walsh with such venom while you defended a far worse GM and coach with such vigor.

If Iwas wrong as much and as bad as you were, I would be a little more humble since you are more than likely to be just as wrong again.

All 263 times before today right??...So u had to go back to 6 years ago to say how wrong I was...Donnie hired MDA and gave a guy with bad knees 100 mil...That looked like the right move to you??..

Venom??..No I'm just stating the facts, but if u like Donnie's moves, it might hurt your feelings...

Yeah ok. I'll see you in a couple of years so I can laugh at you about how wrong you have been on all things Knicks over those years. You have never even been "broken clock" right.

I'll check in whenever the Knicks make a move, if it's something you are against I know it will work out just fine for the Knicks. If it's something you support, I know it will blow up in our faces.

Nice to see that you weren't humbled even a little bit by how totally and unbelievably off the mark your thoughts and opinions were.

So it took u 6 years to speak up huh ??...You can speak up now about Donnie, MDA and the current state of the Knicks, the floor is yours, might take some balls to have an opinion and be wrong tho...But u don't strike me a the type of dude who would risk that...Be a man and live by your word, right or wrong...It's easy to fight in the dark isn't it..

Bonn1997 wrote:He'll starphuck soon and get the fan base excited again.