fishmike wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:I've been waiting 24/7 since 1999. I can wait another year or 2 as long as there is a plan and a real coach in place

we *almost* had it wit Walsh.. so close to having a real front office. Oh well...

The plan is resign Melo and beg the gods a good PG falls into their laps.

Also throwing poop at walls.

If we're lucky we get a lliard/rondo type with out lottery pick next year which we can't trade. Then add free agents in 2015 or 2016

But we will screw this up by adding overpaid malcontents and injury riddled players before then

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:I've been waiting 24/7 since 1999. I can wait another year or 2 as long as there is a plan and a real coach in place

we *almost* had it wit Walsh.. so close to having a real front office. Oh well...

The plan is resign Melo and beg the gods a good PG falls into their laps.

Also throwing poop at walls.

When a PG does fall into their Lap you saw they didn't know what to do with that.

Melo is as gone. End of story, time to move on. Hopefully we do well in the 2015 lottery and use our cap space wisely and build from there. Sucks, it reality isn't always what we want to hear

CrushAlot wrote:

Vmart wrote:

fishmike wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:I've been waiting 24/7 since 1999. I can wait another year or 2 as long as there is a plan and a real coach in place

we *almost* had it wit Walsh.. so close to having a real front office. Oh well...

The plan is resign Melo and beg the gods a good PG falls into their laps.

Also throwing poop at walls.

When a PG does fall into their Lap you saw they didn't know what to do with that.

Reality is that poison pill year is brutal. No one bit on Asik. The guy could have put a team over the top but that deal is just too much. Add Asik to OKC and they are almost a sure lock for a championship

OKC isn't mentally tough in the NBA finals even with Westtrook. Reg season isn't the finals they can't wing big yet , Harden was their piece they needed.

fishmike wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

fishmike wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:Sort of ironic that he forced his way here.
We could have had Mosgov, Chandler, Gallo, 2X First round picks, and some other guys I forgot as assets.

You reap what you Sow...

EMS

how can he force his way here, but not force a good trade? Did he lose his superpowers?

Your the guy posting 2005 trades? uh oh!

He could have walked here, had almost the same money and probably had one hell of a team around him.
I hate to say it, but at this point this year and next are done, shot, finished. Our only chance
is 2015.

he would have one hell of a team around him? What am I missing? Wilson Chandler walks because you need the cap space for Melo. In fact we might be WORSE if Melo walked here, because at least in that trade we got Billups who after being cut allowed us to get Tyson.

If that doesnt happen who is the center? Mosgov starts? Anthony Randolph? Gallo is always hurt. No Wilson Chandler, Ray Felton is still your guard... I mean it would be nice to have the picks in a year like this, I will give you that but that scenario doesnt look ANYTHING like "one hell of a team"

this is just awful reasoning, if you can even call it reasoning. the profound error here is that while we know the knicks suck with melo thanks to his refusal to wait and for his greed-- some knew beforehand the melo era would suck-- we will never be able to say the team would have been worse had he waited.

besides, win-now mode at the expense of building a proper foundation-- the celtics had perkins and rondo as well as pierce-- is sheer insanity. lastly, you have to find players who do not overlap, are not redundant, and are team-first players. you don't add a tweener sf-pf with the same flaws as the tweener sf-pf who is already here. i mean, didn't some fans realize that stoudemire and anthony would never mesh? we're not talking garnett and pierce here.

please spare me the tin-plated 54 wins-- without kidd and wallace the knicks are basically a .500 team least season.

the melo era is an unqualified disaster.

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:Melo era or the Donnie-MDA-Amare-Clusterfcuk..

i choose to see matters as actions and reactions, not simply discrete events in separate vacuums.

you are trying to separate the melo era from the walsh/mda/amare one. that just won't fly. if you didn't like the donnie/mda/amare cluster**** then you have to absolutely loathe the melo deal which simply compounded the problem, ie made it exponentially worse. the fact that you don't loathe it at this juncture of unqualified and epic fail shows very narrow thinking, perhaps even dishonesty... and for what? to protect poor carmelo anthony?