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jrodmc
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2/11/2014  9:49 AM
Enhancing the trade value is usually easier done when the player is playing. See Pau Gasol.

And I like Shump. He's this generation's Starks. Or maybe a GeraldJohnWilkinStarks.
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2/11/2014  9:57 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
fishmike wrote:because the Knicks are better when he's on the floor, and thats a fact:
http://www.82games.com/1314/1314NYK.HTM

When Shump plays Knicks are +
When Shump sits Knicks are - (by alot)

Fact is Knicks are + with Melo, Shump, KMart and Prigs.

What does that tell you?


He plays at the same time as our only player with a good +/-. So of course his will be good too.
so Melo DOES make other's better! I knew it all along. From your mouth to TFK's ears. haha
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2/11/2014  10:17 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/11/2014  10:19 AM
fishmike wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
fishmike wrote:because the Knicks are better when he's on the floor, and thats a fact:
http://www.82games.com/1314/1314NYK.HTM

When Shump plays Knicks are +
When Shump sits Knicks are - (by alot)

Fact is Knicks are + with Melo, Shump, KMart and Prigs.

What does that tell you?


He plays at the same time as our only player with a good +/-. So of course his will be good too.
so Melo DOES make other's better! I knew it all along. From your mouth to TFK's ears. haha

Who said he's making Shumpert better?
You're being misled by an irrelevant factor inflating his +/-.
There are enough better stats available that +/- should be pretty low on the list of ones examined.
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2/11/2014  10:36 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
fishmike wrote:because the Knicks are better when he's on the floor, and thats a fact:
http://www.82games.com/1314/1314NYK.HTM

When Shump plays Knicks are +
When Shump sits Knicks are - (by alot)

Fact is Knicks are + with Melo, Shump, KMart and Prigs.

What does that tell you?


He plays at the same time as our only player with a good +/-. So of course his will be good too.
so Melo DOES make other's better! I knew it all along. From your mouth to TFK's ears. haha

Who said he's making Shumpert better?
You're being misled by an irrelevant factor inflating his +/-.
There are enough better stats available that +/- should be pretty low on the list of ones examined.
irrelevant = your opinion.

The FACT (as proven by stats that which you love) is that when Shumpert has been on the floor this year for 1332 minutes and during that time they are +

If its just because he starts why isnt Felton's positive? Why isnt Chandler's? When Tyson plays he always starts...

Im sorry if you cant quantify it but as you know... #s dont lie

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
Bonn1997
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2/11/2014  10:43 AM
fishmike wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
fishmike wrote:because the Knicks are better when he's on the floor, and thats a fact:
http://www.82games.com/1314/1314NYK.HTM

When Shump plays Knicks are +
When Shump sits Knicks are - (by alot)

Fact is Knicks are + with Melo, Shump, KMart and Prigs.

What does that tell you?


He plays at the same time as our only player with a good +/-. So of course his will be good too.
so Melo DOES make other's better! I knew it all along. From your mouth to TFK's ears. haha

Who said he's making Shumpert better?
You're being misled by an irrelevant factor inflating his +/-.
There are enough better stats available that +/- should be pretty low on the list of ones examined.
irrelevant = your opinion.

The FACT (as proven by stats that which you love) is that when Shumpert has been on the floor this year for 1332 minutes and during that time they are +

If its just because he starts why isnt Felton's positive? Why isnt Chandler's? When Tyson plays he always starts...

Im sorry if you cant quantify it but as you know... #s dont lie


OK, then has Carmelo been an average to below average NBA player in 2 of the last 4 years? It's a "quantified fact" after all, right?
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2/11/2014  3:45 PM
facts based on TFKs opinions maybe.
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jrodmc
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2/12/2014  3:29 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/12/2014  3:30 PM
tkf doesn't believe Melo should be in the league, let alone the bottom half or the center.

where do you guys get your material?


Yes, tkf , we're talking about you again. Scary, aint it?
Bonn1997
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2/12/2014  4:32 PM
fishmike wrote:facts based on TFKs opinions maybe.

No, fact based on your favorite rating system: on/off +/-
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