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dk7th
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2/20/2014  3:32 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I really miss grunwald. His mid season moves were to bring in Kmart and flip brewer for a second round pick and a trade exception.

Yeah, but he dumped this .400 team on us. This is Grunwald's team right now.


I think everything is different if grunwald is still here. Woodson lost his safety net, his voice in regards to who made his team, who started and how many minutes guys could play. You couldn't sabotage a coach and team more than Dolan did.

well melo did a bangup job in terms of sabotaging d'antoni

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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2/20/2014  3:33 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
NYY1NYK2 wrote:What assets?
we were gonna get a 2nd for beno, and another team beat us out
were gonna get a first for shumpert and declined it

we have no assets


I think the Knicks could get revisit the OKC deal on draft night. They are stuck with Felton though. Also, did melo approve moving felton?

You want to trade Shumpert for the 30th overall pick?

you want to lose Shumpert for nothing?

a pick is a pick, you could actually gatherd picks through garbage disposel and try and get a better PG, or a better C that actually guarding and rebounds.

we just didn't do anything, we tried, but everybody beat us to it, which means that, 2014-2015 will be even worse than now, much more depressing, mainly because there is no trust in the coach, no D, no PG, really nothing
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2/20/2014  3:51 PM
I guess the other gm's didn't realize mills has more cachet then grunwald.
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2/20/2014  4:06 PM
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I really miss grunwald. His mid season moves were to bring in Kmart and flip brewer for a second round pick and a trade exception.

Yeah, but he dumped this .400 team on us. This is Grunwald's team right now.


I think everything is different if grunwald is still here. Woodson lost his safety net, his voice in regards to who made his team, who started and how many minutes guys could play. You couldn't sabotage a coach and team more than Dolan did.

well melo did a bangup job in terms of sabotaging d'antoni

lol... what was the Knicks record after MDA left? What was MDA's record with the Knicks? Lakers? Hee-haw
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2/20/2014  4:08 PM
Pathetic. Sad. Oh well at least there is beer.
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2/20/2014  4:08 PM
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2/20/2014  4:09 PM
Dolan doesn't need to explain himself to anybody.
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2/20/2014  4:11 PM
Beno is literally a scrap heap player. Anyone could have him for nothing. So hard to fault MSG for not turning that turd into wine.

Im glad we didnt trade Shump to OKC for the 30th pick in the draft. Shump is worth more than that,and a healthy happier Shump under a new coach next year will be worth more than whatever pick 30 yields. No probs with that.

MSG has phucked so many things up, but I dont really see what they were supposed to do at the deadline. You can hope something nice happens... but it was as quiet a deadline as I can remember in a long time

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2/20/2014  4:13 PM
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Pathetic. Sad. Oh well at least there is beer.
god I love beer. If god made anything that tastes beter than beer or pu$$y he kept it for himself.
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2/20/2014  4:15 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
Isn't Mills supposed to be more available to the media than Grunwald? Wasn't that part of the job description given when he was hired?
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JS3
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2/20/2014  4:19 PM
Well guys, i don't think it's rain that falling on us from the front office up there at MSG
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2/20/2014  4:24 PM
JS3 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
NYY1NYK2 wrote:What assets?
we were gonna get a 2nd for beno, and another team beat us out
were gonna get a first for shumpert and declined it

we have no assets


I think the Knicks could get revisit the OKC deal on draft night. They are stuck with Felton though. Also, did melo approve moving felton?

You want to trade Shumpert for the 30th overall pick?

you want to lose Shumpert for nothing?

a pick is a pick, you could actually gatherd picks through garbage disposel and try and get a better PG, or a better C that actually guarding and rebounds.

we just didn't do anything, we tried, but everybody beat us to it, which means that, 2014-2015 will be even worse than now, much more depressing, mainly because there is no trust in the coach, no D, no PG, really nothing

At this point you hope that Shump works on his game this offseason (something he couldn't do last offseason or the offseason before due to various surgeries) and see if a new a coach can bring out the best in him. I'd take that gamble rather than settle for the 30th pick.
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2/20/2014  4:29 PM
NYKBocker wrote:

Someone should tell Dolan it's a god damn basketball team, not a fricking spy agency or political party.
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2/20/2014  4:38 PM
smackeddog wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:

Someone should tell Dolan it's a god damn basketball team, not a fricking spy agency or political party.

this is exactly what i'm saying. there is mo fans - front office interaction, whatsoever, the celebs will keep on coming, and us, the true fans will keep get pissed on.

those who have hope that:
A) Shump will work on his game
B) Tyson will work on his game
C) Stat will stay healthy
D) a new coach will be here next season

you are delusional kind of people, i'm not abandoning ship, i stayed the last decade, nothing worse can get from here, but at least don't be naive, we as fans should demand that Mills/Dolan will speak about what is going on, not just sit on our ass and say, '2015 - the big plan is coming', what plan god dammit???
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2/20/2014  7:58 PM

NO move is better than a bad move.

Kudos for not doing anything stupid.
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2/20/2014  8:02 PM
Nalod wrote:
NO move is better than a bad move.

Kudos for not doing anything stupid.

+1

The old Knicks would do something stupid just to do something on a mandate from dohlan
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2/20/2014  9:10 PM
amazing, the front office can't speak. wow. just wow. i thought the only thing mills was supposed to be good at was being a polished bs mouthpiece for a public voice.
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2/21/2014  1:08 AM
They should have gotten something/anything for Beno at least
fishmike 9/27/2024 11:00 PM Ug I hate this. The idea of Towns is great until you see what a pussy he is. Jules is a dog. DD was a flamethrower locked up cheap for 3 more years. First Leon move I hate
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2/21/2014  5:03 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/21/2014  5:15 AM
Had we NOT done the trade for AB, we could have gotten possibly Spencer Hawes possibly even Evan Turner back, considering what they were traded for 3 2nd round picks, maybe we had a 2018 1st rounder and push for Thad Young insisting him to be in it

They would have to take back a salaries that do not go beyond 2015 though, maybe Pablo

so

2016 and 2018 1st rounder

2 2nd round picks (one OKC's this summers)


I would have starphucked to please Anthony if they do not want him to walk and intended on not making trades to get younger

for

Turner
Thad Young
Spencer Hawes
add in a Tony Wroten if possible

for

Chandler /STAT/AB one of these contracts
Fillers not including Melo, Tim Hardaway JR, JR, Iman, Tyler

1st rounders
2018
2020

2nd round picks
2018
2019
2020

add in 3m in cash only if they give us a 2014 mid/later 2nd rounder
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