misterearl wrote:Post of The Day

Nalod wrote:

jrodmc wrote:Is this the first "We blew it up without blowing it up" thread?

We imploded it in!

Put Bargs and Stat on the shelf. Put 36mil a year on the shelf and we get better?

Boston sucks, and Cleveland is awful. Im happy we are beating lessor teams. Not to long ago Philly came and gave it to us.

Nalod remembers.

So we got woodson:

1. Adapting
2. playing yoots
3. adapting
4. making good moves.

This week.

Those who thought we got problems but Woodson is not one of them are proving correct (this week) as he has not lost his team and has reeled JR back into the fold.

Woodson also got much smarter when Tyson got his timing back. When Melo goes for 62pts, woodsons IQ goes up too!

Nalod thinks Woodson gets a lot from the rosters we have given him. Not a miracle worker mind you, just does a very very good job.

Tough love might not be what most of us wants but this is how it goes. Shump is on the Hump. Timmy should get his minutes and time to rebuild Shump back up when he gets well. His midlevel contract is slipping away and is one more shoulder problem away from Tony DouglasVille.

Thank you

misterearl wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Hallelujah!!!

This is all we needed really. Its a Shame is taken us this long to figure out. This is something that should have been settled in training camp and pre season. I don't want to hear excuses.

Jeremy Tyler was injured at the start of the season.

No, thank you!!!!!

Many think you can take a player from Summer league, report he has been masterbating to Hakeems Dream Camp big man DVD's learning "the Shake" (double the pun, double the fun)and think any delay in his progress has been the conspiracy of holding him back so he is not voted to the all star ruining our chances of resigning him or one of our dozens of Head coaches who are stubborn and don't want to play rookies! Simply add water and watch them go!

Tyler or any player "breaking out" is process. The kid has the physical attributes but when yo ask a player to bring energy its a limited time it can happen. I love when guys make a great run and then get taken out and everyone is freaking "why he take him out???" often the guy is gassed and thats when turnovers happen and injuries occur. Better to bring in a guy and let him play small samples successfully, not play him until he messes up. There is always a patience level with any player and you hve to accept the turnovers. Remember Lins first few games? Not that pretty. He had to playup to the speed of the game that is not in summerleague, or the Dleague or in practice.

Coach's coach to win in games. A player has to show something that warrents minutes and often its an injury that creates that opportunity.

There are no exuses, often there are just reasons!

Lets be real about Murry, the kid is not exactly creating a buzz is he? Its not to say we give up on him, we just say its a process.

BRIGGS wrote:Add
6-10 260 pounds C/PF Jeremy Tyler--brings size skill energy defense and rebounding
6-5 200 pound G Tim Hardaway JR--is already one of the best 3 pt shooters in the NBA a real explosive player and this is no fluke--hes legit
6-6 225 pound JR Smith--once he puts down the pipe--hes a starting NBA 2 guard who can run pass shoot play D
6-10 260 pound Cole Aldrich--hes a lane clogger and I think he can probably rebound with anyone in the NBA.

Subtract
7-0 250 C Andrea Barganani slow footed inconsistent player who is best set for European basketball
6-6 225 G Iman Shumpert knee injuries and attitude have lead to highly inconsistent play he needs a new gig its best for him and us
6-4 210 pd Beno Udirih You want out--we should remove you not a great fit here but can be quite useful somewhere else.

Wildcard Amare--he will need to fit in again? MWP--we he stay healthy and improve to give minutes on guys like Paul George and LBJ?

Transactions? Can we move Shumpert and Udirih for a quality third PG?

Trevor Ariza
Thaddeus Young
Wilson Chandler

Bonn1997 wrote:I think this team can play around .550. Unfortunately, those injured players will be coming back though.

And thats the bad news

Jeremy Tyler heals and is eased into his minutes, in the same way a chef adds spice. A little at a time. Seasoning to taste.

JR Smith gets a taste of tough love, his knees start to feel bouncy, and a rookie is playing his azz off.

Tim Hardaway Jr gains confidence. He was also added with care. The vets help him get acclimated.

Prigioni returns to help bail out "His Royal Stiffness" Ray Felton on running plays.

Through it all, Mike Woodson never flinches, or allows the roster to implode under the weight of trade rumors, boos at home, domino-effect injuries or his imminent firing

Dontcha jus love it when a plan comes together?

nixluva wrote:The truth is that the Knicks did great with Bargs and STAT playing against a tougher schedule:

JANUARY	        OPPONENT      RESULT	W-L	
Thu, Jan 2	@San Antonio  W105-101  10-21	
Fri, Jan 3	@Houston      L102-100  10-22
Sun, Jan 5	@Dallas       W92-80    11-22
Tue, Jan 7	vsDetroit     W89-85    12-22	
Thu, Jan 9	vsMiami       W102-92   13-22	
Sat, Jan 11	@Philadelphia W102-92   14-22
Mon, Jan 13	vsPhoenix     W98-96 OT 15-22

The current win streak minus Bargs has been against Charlotte, LA, Boston and Cleveland!!! I know we all wanted to see Woody make use of the small lineup and to get his act together, which seems to only happen when he has no choice, but this constant theme in the media and among fans that somehow this 4 game streak is proof that Bargs is the problem is just stupid. The best part of Bargs and STAT being down is Tyler getting a real chance to play.

Bargs and STAT don't have to be gone for this team to play good BB. Woody just has to do a better job with his lineups and rotations. Also fans and media are making too much of this streak and the small ball lineup. I'm glad the team is playing well and Woody finally is getting back to what worked, but lets take it easy on the idea that Bargs was a disaster. With him at Center we never played better defense than during that stretch that started out West, especially when Tyson went down. If Bargs or STAT came back, we can still play small but mix in using Bargs or STAT off the bench. It's really up to Woody. More important is the fact that during the streak that started out West and this home streak has been the improved play of our guards. Quite simply, if our guards play well, we win games. Doesn't really matter if Bargs is playing or not, it's about our guards. When we were losing our key guards were shooting below 40%.

Woodson has a tough decision down the line. He can't play everyone. Bargs, STAT, KMart and Tyler can't all play. What will he do is a big question. Does he have the guts to bench Vets for the sake of the team? Can Woody actually Bench Bargs and STAT if they're healthy? Seems to me that most nights when we aren't facing a team with size and post up threats, there's no reason to play Bargs or STAT big minutes.

Nixluva. Bargs is not for this team. He can be used as injury insurance

nixluva wrote:The truth is that the Knicks did great with Bargs and STAT playing against a tougher schedule:

JANUARY	        OPPONENT      RESULT	W-L	
Thu, Jan 2	@San Antonio  W105-101  10-21	
Fri, Jan 3	@Houston      L102-100  10-22
Sun, Jan 5	@Dallas       W92-80    11-22
Tue, Jan 7	vsDetroit     W89-85    12-22	
Thu, Jan 9	vsMiami       W102-92   13-22	
Sat, Jan 11	@Philadelphia W102-92   14-22
Mon, Jan 13	vsPhoenix     W98-96 OT 15-22

The current win streak minus Bargs has been against Charlotte, LA, Boston and Cleveland!!! I know we all wanted to see Woody make use of the small lineup and to get his act together, which seems to only happen when he has no choice, but this constant theme in the media and among fans that somehow this 4 game streak is proof that Bargs is the problem is just stupid. The best part of Bargs and STAT being down is Tyler getting a real chance to play.

Bargs and STAT don't have to be gone for this team to play good BB. Woody just has to do a better job with his lineups and rotations. Also fans and media are making too much of this streak and the small ball lineup. I'm glad the team is playing well and Woody finally is getting back to what worked, but lets take it easy on the idea that Bargs was a disaster. With him at Center we never played better defense than during that stretch that started out West, especially when Tyson went down. If Bargs or STAT came back, we can still play small but mix in using Bargs or STAT off the bench. It's really up to Woody. More important is the fact that during the streak that started out West and this home streak has been the improved play of our guards. Quite simply, if our guards play well, we win games. Doesn't really matter if Bargs is playing or not, it's about our guards. When we were losing our key guards were shooting below 40%.

Woodson has a tough decision down the line. He can't play everyone. Bargs, STAT, KMart and Tyler can't all play. What will he do is a big question. Does he have the guts to bench Vets for the sake of the team? Can Woody actually Bench Bargs and STAT if they're healthy? Seems to me that most nights when we aren't facing a team with size and post up threats, there's no reason to play Bargs or STAT big minutes.

Bonn1997 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

nixluva wrote:The truth is that the Knicks did great with Bargs and STAT playing against a tougher schedule:

JANUARY	        OPPONENT      RESULT	W-L	
Thu, Jan 2	@San Antonio  W105-101  10-21	
Fri, Jan 3	@Houston      L102-100  10-22
Sun, Jan 5	@Dallas       W92-80    11-22
Tue, Jan 7	vsDetroit     W89-85    12-22	
Thu, Jan 9	vsMiami       W102-92   13-22	
Sat, Jan 11	@Philadelphia W102-92   14-22
Mon, Jan 13	vsPhoenix     W98-96 OT 15-22

The current win streak minus Bargs has been against Charlotte, LA, Boston and Cleveland!!! I know we all wanted to see Woody make use of the small lineup and to get his act together, which seems to only happen when he has no choice, but this constant theme in the media and among fans that somehow this 4 game streak is proof that Bargs is the problem is just stupid. The best part of Bargs and STAT being down is Tyler getting a real chance to play.

Bargs and STAT don't have to be gone for this team to play good BB. Woody just has to do a better job with his lineups and rotations. Also fans and media are making too much of this streak and the small ball lineup. I'm glad the team is playing well and Woody finally is getting back to what worked, but lets take it easy on the idea that Bargs was a disaster. With him at Center we never played better defense than during that stretch that started out West, especially when Tyson went down. If Bargs or STAT came back, we can still play small but mix in using Bargs or STAT off the bench. It's really up to Woody. More important is the fact that during the streak that started out West and this home streak has been the improved play of our guards. Quite simply, if our guards play well, we win games. Doesn't really matter if Bargs is playing or not, it's about our guards. When we were losing our key guards were shooting below 40%.

Woodson has a tough decision down the line. He can't play everyone. Bargs, STAT, KMart and Tyler can't all play. What will he do is a big question. Does he have the guts to bench Vets for the sake of the team? Can Woody actually Bench Bargs and STAT if they're healthy? Seems to me that most nights when we aren't facing a team with size and post up threats, there's no reason to play Bargs or STAT big minutes.

Nixluva. Bargs is not for this team. He can be used as injury insurance

He's not really for this league

He's not even for this sport.