GustavBahler wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Syniko wrote:We're always going to talk about Jeremy Lin because New York is where Linsanity was hatched and right now, we need him more than ever.

It seems nobody understands that Lin is an alpha dog. He wants to dominate in his role and if you take away that role; he becomes utterly pointless the way Kobe would be utterly pointless. I'm not saying Lin is anywhere on the level of greatness Kobe is. I'm only saying that Lin, at his level, could perform optimally to his own advantages if only his coaching staff believes in him.

I've been watching Lin whenever Harden goes out due to injury and always, Lin comes up playing tremendously well. He damn nearly had himself a triple double against Dallas tonight.

Its a good take on the former knick. Lin is relevant in our discussions as he not just captivated the Knick Knation, but was briefly a global sensation! Its not like we are lamenting over Landry Fields!

MDA can take a good PG and make him better. He created Nash, Lin and in Lakerland is doing good work with Kendal Marshall after his first 3 PG's went down with injury. Nash, Blake, Farmar.......

Lin would have been a good fit on this team both on the court and off. He was ours.

But he is gone so we move on.........

Wouldnt say D'antoni "created" Nash. He helped take his game to the next level but he was already an all star before he ever played for MDA.

As for Lin, he just isn't good enough for all this woulda shouda. Good PG, but not so good that we should still be making threads about him. If he had replicated his great run in NY down in Houston, I could understand it, but that didn't happen, not even close. It ended before he even left NY.

Look at the list of muliple MVP winners. Nash's name is on it. He didn't win MVP's with other coach's did he? Nash was an allstar but no HOF. LOok at the list of MVP winners? Then narrow it to multiple winners. Then take a step back and "Whoa".

Then ask youself how does a 32 year go from being a that to HOF multiple MVP kind of guy? New sneakers? Differnt Hair Gel? Switch from Gatorade to Powerade? What about being the point guard for a system! How that happen? Im not saying MDA goes in the HOF but few players win their first, let alone two MVP's after the age of 30.

YOu don't have to love MDA to realize the brillance of it and respect it.

gunsnewing wrote:Wrong^ 6-1 under Lin, Melo, Amare, Tyson and Woodson

Back to back blow out wins vs Indiana. Home and home

Didn't play in the Indiana series that counted the most. When do you think Linsanity wears off? Please remind everyone that he restructured his contract to not be matched by the NY team. His actions, or the actions of his agent seriously suggest that he DIDN'T WANT TO BE HERE

NYKBocker wrote:

Sangfroid wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Wrong^ 6-1 under Lin, Melo, Amare, Tyson and Woodson

Back to back blow out wins vs Indiana. Home and home

Didn't play in the Indiana series that counted the most. When do you think Linsanity wears off? Please remind everyone that he restructured his contract to not be matched by the NY team. His actions, or the actions of his agent seriously suggest that he DIDN'T WANT TO BE HERE

I really don't understand where you guys get your information. It was well documented that the Knicks wanted Lin to test free agency and let him set his price. Woody even commented that they will match up to a billion dollars. Dolan and his cronnies never offered a contract. Lin and his agent gets a contract offer from Morey and that was it. He needed to sign it so Knicks can match it. Even Morey was surprised that he got Lin since it did not make sense for Knicks not to sign him.

My understanding is that the first contract from Houston was matched. That contract was taken BACK TO HOUSTON,where it was re-worked to include the poison pill for the third year. This cause an increase in the salary as well as luxury tax that the Knicks would incur. The third year of that contract as well as the third year in Asik's contract is why Houston is shopping both players, and why most teams are staying away.

NYKBocker wrote:

Sangfroid wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

Sangfroid wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Wrong^ 6-1 under Lin, Melo, Amare, Tyson and Woodson

Back to back blow out wins vs Indiana. Home and home

Didn't play in the Indiana series that counted the most. When do you think Linsanity wears off? Please remind everyone that he restructured his contract to not be matched by the NY team. His actions, or the actions of his agent seriously suggest that he DIDN'T WANT TO BE HERE

I really don't understand where you guys get your information. It was well documented that the Knicks wanted Lin to test free agency and let him set his price. Woody even commented that they will match up to a billion dollars. Dolan and his cronnies never offered a contract. Lin and his agent gets a contract offer from Morey and that was it. He needed to sign it so Knicks can match it. Even Morey was surprised that he got Lin since it did not make sense for Knicks not to sign him.

My understanding is that the first contract from Houston was matched. That contract was taken BACK TO HOUSTON,where it was re-worked to include the poison pill for the third year. This cause an increase in the salary as well as luxury tax that the Knicks would incur. The third year of that contract as well as the third year in Asik's contract is why Houston is shopping both players, and why most teams are staying away.

Nope. It was never signed. I don't think it was even sent to the league offices. The only contract submitted was the one he signed.

CrushAlot wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Melo and JR certainly didn't help endorse him either

If Melo wanted Lin he'd be here

It would've never got to the point of the 2nd poison pill

Knicks wanted to spend the MLE on 40yr old Nash. Never made Lin an offer

Not true. This keeps getting rehashed because of Melos response when he was in the Olympics. His words weretaken out of context and the media ran with it. The interview was played during a summer league game in context and Hahn also spoke about it. It is simple lin wanted the most money he could get and took the best offer. Jr's reaction was different because he felt slighted as a vet. Nothing wrong with lin treating his profession like it is a business. But you don't fire your agent, have your new agent leak that you might not go back to the Knicks and sit out from the USA select team because it might impact you free agency if you are just going to resign with the Knicks.

If you want to drive up the price that the Knicks will finally give you, isn't that exactly what you'd do?

I'm sure if you ask him now he definitely does but too late. We'll trot along with Raymond Felton. Now that we are 10 games under .500

gunsnewing wrote:You really think Melo wanted Lin here at the time?

I'm sure if you ask him now he definitely does but too late. We'll trot along with Raymond Felton. Now that we are 10 games under .500