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Bonn1997
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1/22/2014  4:05 PM
misterearl wrote:Think of what it felt like to allow Lin to walk for zero compensation

And multiply that by two


I was gonna say divide it by 2! Lin was an exciting kid with a whole career ahead of him and our owner wasn't willing to pay him $25 mil
Letting Melo walk could mean Dolan is no longer starphucking.
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1/22/2014  4:05 PM
misterearl wrote:Cartman - Dolan will be the focus of media questions on any Melo deal. He will also need to address stake holders.

Donnie Walsh has left the building.

He has addressed "Stake holders". They are called share holders BTW and the stock has gone from 20 to 56 in three years. Knicks are most valuable franchise in the league. Attendance is high and viewship is up.

In the Mecca he answers to no one. In the UK we talk "Sports". There is another reality.

Want to watch good ball movement for a new york team? Turn on the YES network.

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1/22/2014  4:12 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/22/2014  4:15 PM
misterearl wrote:
holfresh wrote:
misterearl wrote:"I'm looking forward to free agency"

- Carmelo Anthony

The smart move is to trade him

- Mike Golic

Football Mike Golic??

Correct

Thay even talk Knicks on Mike&Mike In The Morning

Leads to the next question, why should I or anyone for that matter listen to Mike Golic about basketball, because he has a mike??..pun intended...

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1/22/2014  4:13 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/22/2014  4:14 PM
Nalod wrote:
misterearl wrote:Cartman - Dolan will be the focus of media questions on any Melo deal. He will also need to address stake holders.

Donnie Walsh has left the building.

He has addressed "Stake holders". They are called share holders BTW and the stock has gone from 20 to 56 in three years. Knicks are most valuable franchise in the league. Attendance is high and viewship is up.

In the Mecca he answers to no one. In the UK we talk "Sports". There is another reality.

Want to watch good ball movement for a new york team? Turn on the YES network.

Yankees don't play until April...

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1/22/2014  4:22 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
misterearl wrote:Think of what it felt like to allow Lin to walk for zero compensation

And multiply that by two


I was gonna say divide it by 2! Lin was an exciting kid with a whole career ahead of him and our owner wasn't willing to pay him $25 mil
Letting Melo walk could mean Dolan is no longer starphucking.

Lin: 13 pts and 44% fg last year and 13 pts and 46% fg. I see what you mean, Lin leaving definitely hurts more than a player who lead us to 54 wins last, and put up 29 pts and 26 pts these last two years... Oh, I forgot, most around here value potential more thn actual production....

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1/22/2014  4:33 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
misterearl wrote:Think of what it felt like to allow Lin to walk for zero compensation

And multiply that by two


I was gonna say divide it by 2! Lin was an exciting kid with a whole career ahead of him and our owner wasn't willing to pay him $25 mil
Letting Melo walk could mean Dolan is no longer starphucking.

You mean the dude who lost his spot to Patrick Beverly, who several NBA teams cut before the Rockets got him? The same dude that the Rockets were looking to dump in the first year of his contract? That dude?

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1/22/2014  4:49 PM
Uptown wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
misterearl wrote:Think of what it felt like to allow Lin to walk for zero compensation

And multiply that by two


I was gonna say divide it by 2! Lin was an exciting kid with a whole career ahead of him and our owner wasn't willing to pay him $25 mil
Letting Melo walk could mean Dolan is no longer starphucking.

Lin: 13 pts and 44% fg last year and 13 pts and 46% fg. I see what you mean, Lin leaving definitely hurts more than a player who lead us to 54 wins last, and put up 29 pts and 26 pts these last two years... Oh, I forgot, most around here value potential more thn actual production....


You must have misread that and thought I said Lin was the better player.
You seem to know nothing about value. You can't expect the same production for $25 mil that $125 mil brings. Do you expect a $100,000 house to be just as nice as a $2 mil one?
Bonn1997
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1/22/2014  4:50 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
misterearl wrote:Think of what it felt like to allow Lin to walk for zero compensation

And multiply that by two


I was gonna say divide it by 2! Lin was an exciting kid with a whole career ahead of him and our owner wasn't willing to pay him $25 mil
Letting Melo walk could mean Dolan is no longer starphucking.

You mean the dude who lost his spot to Patrick Beverly, who several NBA teams cut before the Rockets got him? The same dude that the Rockets were looking to dump in the first year of his contract? That dude?


As opposed to dude leading a .350 team?
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1/22/2014  4:51 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/22/2014  4:53 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
misterearl wrote:Think of what it felt like to allow Lin to walk for zero compensation

And multiply that by two


I was gonna say divide it by 2! Lin was an exciting kid with a whole career ahead of him and our owner wasn't willing to pay him $25 mil
Letting Melo walk could mean Dolan is no longer starphucking.

You mean the dude who lost his spot to Patrick Beverly, who several NBA teams cut before the Rockets got him? The same dude that the Rockets were looking to dump in the first year of his contract? That dude?


As opposed to dude leading a .350 team?

Yeah. That dude has led 11 other teams to a playoff berth beforehand and is still regarded as a star.

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1/22/2014  5:03 PM
Uptown wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
misterearl wrote:Think of what it felt like to allow Lin to walk for zero compensation

And multiply that by two


I was gonna say divide it by 2! Lin was an exciting kid with a whole career ahead of him and our owner wasn't willing to pay him $25 mil
Letting Melo walk could mean Dolan is no longer starphucking.

Lin: 13 pts and 44% fg last year and 13 pts and 46% fg. I see what you mean, Lin leaving definitely hurts more than a player who lead us to 54 wins last, and put up 29 pts and 26 pts these last two years... Oh, I forgot, most around here value potential more thn actual production....

amazing the stats you cling to to support this career loser. fg% is hopelessly outdates except for big men. he remains an inefficient volume shooter who destroys team cohesion and is a sub-par defender.

lin has a 59%TS this season as an orchestrator and close to a 1:1 ratio of usage to assist rate. here in new york his floor impact was undeniable until he ran out of gas and got hurt. now he is fitting in just fine with his new team, 28-15 and in the playoff hunt, likely as a top 6 seed.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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1/22/2014  5:13 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Uptown wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
misterearl wrote:Think of what it felt like to allow Lin to walk for zero compensation

And multiply that by two


I was gonna say divide it by 2! Lin was an exciting kid with a whole career ahead of him and our owner wasn't willing to pay him $25 mil
Letting Melo walk could mean Dolan is no longer starphucking.

Lin: 13 pts and 44% fg last year and 13 pts and 46% fg. I see what you mean, Lin leaving definitely hurts more than a player who lead us to 54 wins last, and put up 29 pts and 26 pts these last two years... Oh, I forgot, most around here value potential more thn actual production....


You must have misread that and thought I said Lin was the better player.
You seem to know nothing about value. You can't expect the same production for $25 mil that $125 mil brings. Do you expect a $100,000 house to be just as nice as a $2 mil one?

If that's the case, then wouldn't it hurt more to lose something that is more valuable?

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1/22/2014  5:22 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Uptown wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
misterearl wrote:Think of what it felt like to allow Lin to walk for zero compensation

And multiply that by two


I was gonna say divide it by 2! Lin was an exciting kid with a whole career ahead of him and our owner wasn't willing to pay him $25 mil
Letting Melo walk could mean Dolan is no longer starphucking.

Lin: 13 pts and 44% fg last year and 13 pts and 46% fg. I see what you mean, Lin leaving definitely hurts more than a player who lead us to 54 wins last, and put up 29 pts and 26 pts these last two years... Oh, I forgot, most around here value potential more thn actual production....


You must have misread that and thought I said Lin was the better player.
You seem to know nothing about value. You can't expect the same production for $25 mil that $125 mil brings. Do you expect a $100,000 house to be just as nice as a $2 mil one?

If that's the case, then wouldn't it hurt more to lose something that is more valuable?

come on. the league is bloated with too many teams and a diluted talent pool. the playoff format allows over 50% of the teams in! that's ridiculous.

making the playoffs is no big deal. it's definitely not something to tout, especially since he has made it out of round 1 twice, or only 20% of his career.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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1/22/2014  5:25 PM
But we'd have more cap space so we can overpay for some other shmuck. I'm thinking along the lines of the Ben Gordon/Charlie V signings Detroit's made a while back. Except now it would be Nick Young and Byron Mullins. Definitely better than Melo...
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1/22/2014  6:29 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
misterearl wrote:Think of what it felt like to allow Lin to walk for zero compensation

And multiply that by two


I was gonna say divide it by 2! Lin was an exciting kid with a whole career ahead of him and our owner wasn't willing to pay him $25 mil
Letting Melo walk could mean Dolan is no longer starphucking.

You mean the dude who lost his spot to Patrick Beverly, who several NBA teams cut before the Rockets got him? The same dude that the Rockets were looking to dump in the first year of his contract? That dude?


As opposed to dude leading a .350 team?

Yeah. That dude has led 11 other teams to a playoff berth beforehand and is still regarded as a star.


For $125 mil, you better get led to more than just a playoff berth
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1/22/2014  6:35 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Uptown wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
misterearl wrote:Think of what it felt like to allow Lin to walk for zero compensation

And multiply that by two


I was gonna say divide it by 2! Lin was an exciting kid with a whole career ahead of him and our owner wasn't willing to pay him $25 mil
Letting Melo walk could mean Dolan is no longer starphucking.

Lin: 13 pts and 44% fg last year and 13 pts and 46% fg. I see what you mean, Lin leaving definitely hurts more than a player who lead us to 54 wins last, and put up 29 pts and 26 pts these last two years... Oh, I forgot, most around here value potential more thn actual production....


You must have misread that and thought I said Lin was the better player.
You seem to know nothing about value. You can't expect the same production for $25 mil that $125 mil brings. Do you expect a $100,000 house to be just as nice as a $2 mil one?

If that's the case, then wouldn't it hurt more to lose something that is more valuable?


Maybe you're more of a glass half empty guy, but if we lose Melo we gain a ton of cap space in 2015 and can put together a much better
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1/22/2014  7:09 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
misterearl wrote:Think of what it felt like to allow Lin to walk for zero compensation

And multiply that by two

Then multiply that heartache by four and that's what you get by losing Melo for nothing. We got Lin for nothing. For Melo, we gave up every asset we had at the time and this time around, would be left with nothing.

Then multiply that by 1,000 when we hand Denver a top 5 lottery pick this summer.

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1/22/2014  7:22 PM
misterearl wrote:Think of what it felt like to allow Lin to walk for zero compensation

And multiply that by two

More like multiply by 100. Melo is a top 10 player. Lin is a good player.
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1/22/2014  8:07 PM
dk7th wrote:
Uptown wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
misterearl wrote:Think of what it felt like to allow Lin to walk for zero compensation

And multiply that by two


I was gonna say divide it by 2! Lin was an exciting kid with a whole career ahead of him and our owner wasn't willing to pay him $25 mil
Letting Melo walk could mean Dolan is no longer starphucking.

Lin: 13 pts and 44% fg last year and 13 pts and 46% fg. I see what you mean, Lin leaving definitely hurts more than a player who lead us to 54 wins last, and put up 29 pts and 26 pts these last two years... Oh, I forgot, most around here value potential more thn actual production....

amazing the stats you cling to to support this career loser. fg% is hopelessly outdates except for big men. he remains an inefficient volume shooter who destroys team cohesion and is a sub-par defender.

lin has a 59%TS this season as an orchestrator and close to a 1:1 ratio of usage to assist rate. here in new york his floor impact was undeniable until he ran out of gas and got hurt. now he is fitting in just fine with his new team, 28-15 and in the playoff hunt, likely as a top 6 seed.

Should have known if I throw a number on the ground, the non-basketball playing stat geeks come'a swarming. With your own TWO EYES, are you telling me that Lin is a better player and has a bigger impact on a team than Melo?

Curious, how did you and Bonn determine who were the best players in the 80's before all these geek numbers were available?

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1/22/2014  8:40 PM
Uptown wrote:
dk7th wrote:
Uptown wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
misterearl wrote:Think of what it felt like to allow Lin to walk for zero compensation

And multiply that by two


I was gonna say divide it by 2! Lin was an exciting kid with a whole career ahead of him and our owner wasn't willing to pay him $25 mil
Letting Melo walk could mean Dolan is no longer starphucking.

Lin: 13 pts and 44% fg last year and 13 pts and 46% fg. I see what you mean, Lin leaving definitely hurts more than a player who lead us to 54 wins last, and put up 29 pts and 26 pts these last two years... Oh, I forgot, most around here value potential more thn actual production....

amazing the stats you cling to to support this career loser. fg% is hopelessly outdates except for big men. he remains an inefficient volume shooter who destroys team cohesion and is a sub-par defender.

lin has a 59%TS this season as an orchestrator and close to a 1:1 ratio of usage to assist rate. here in new york his floor impact was undeniable until he ran out of gas and got hurt. now he is fitting in just fine with his new team, 28-15 and in the playoff hunt, likely as a top 6 seed.

Should have known if I throw a number on the ground, the non-basketball playing stat geeks come'a swarming. With your own TWO EYES, are you telling me that Lin is a better player and has a bigger impact on a team than Melo?

Curious, how did you and Bonn determine who were the best players in the 80's before all these geek numbers were available?


In 1989, I was 10 and I have no clue how I evaluated players back then
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1/22/2014  9:06 PM
dk7th wrote:
Uptown wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
misterearl wrote:Think of what it felt like to allow Lin to walk for zero compensation

And multiply that by two


I was gonna say divide it by 2! Lin was an exciting kid with a whole career ahead of him and our owner wasn't willing to pay him $25 mil
Letting Melo walk could mean Dolan is no longer starphucking.

Lin: 13 pts and 44% fg last year and 13 pts and 46% fg. I see what you mean, Lin leaving definitely hurts more than a player who lead us to 54 wins last, and put up 29 pts and 26 pts these last two years... Oh, I forgot, most around here value potential more thn actual production....

amazing the stats you cling to to support this career loser. fg% is hopelessly outdates except for big men. he remains an inefficient volume shooter who destroys team cohesion and is a sub-par defender.

lin has a 59%TS this season as an orchestrator and close to a 1:1 ratio of usage to assist rate. here in new york his floor impact was undeniable until he ran out of gas and got hurt. now he is fitting in just fine with his new team, 28-15 and in the playoff hunt, likely as a top 6 seed.

Its funny because you are always accusing Melo of not being in good shape. Lin was a 23 year old second year player and played starters minutes for 25 games and as you said, "ran out of gas". Do you read what you write?
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