But I think it's time to move on. He leads the league in minutes and is only going to start missing more time. Not fun watching another 30 something year old in a suit. We've had our fair share over the years

nyk4ever wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Why do you guys want to trade Shumpert? So when he flourishes for a better coach on another team we can start threads about how it was a mistake to let him go for nothing? Ariza, Lee, Nate, Wilson, Randolph, Lin

The only guys who we should keep is Shumpert, Hardaway, Murray and Tyler. Talk to Melo and see if he will be part of a quick rebuild if not trade him too.

Actually trade Melo and replenish assets. I want nothing to do with another 30+year old making $30mil per and breaking down every extra minute he is overplayed.

dude shumperts attitude for a young player is disgraceful, he himself is as big of a reason he isn't progressing, as much as the coaching is. i would move shumpert asap.

Ariza's attitude was disgraceful and delusional. He was fine on the Lakers and still a valuable player for Washington as he gives them toughness they never had.

I would like to see Shumpert under a new headcoach before losing him for peanuts. He's shown he's capable.

gunsnewing wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Why do you guys want to trade Shumpert? So when he flourishes for a better coach on another team we can start threads about how it was a mistake to let him go for nothing? Ariza, Lee, Nate, Wilson, Randolph, Lin

The only guys who we should keep is Shumpert, Hardaway, Murray and Tyler. Talk to Melo and see if he will be part of a quick rebuild if not trade him too.

Actually trade Melo and replenish assets. I want nothing to do with another 30+year old making $30mil per and breaking down every extra minute he is overplayed.

dude shumperts attitude for a young player is disgraceful, he himself is as big of a reason he isn't progressing, as much as the coaching is. i would move shumpert asap.

Ariza's attitude was disgraceful and delusional. He was fine on the Lakers and still a valuable player for Washington as he gives them toughness they never had.

I would like to see Shumpert under a new headcoach before losing him for peanuts. He's shown he's capable.

all he's shown is that he plays when he wants to. all he does is shoot 3's, he has no interest in doing anything else. you can find a guy like that anywhere.

gunsnewing wrote:Because that's the role Woodson has laid out for him instead of him and his coaches developing their young plAyers

you really think the coaching staff has told shumpert to only shoot 3s? to me it looks like the coaches are constantly criticizing his shot selection. i've heard woodson say he wants him to take it to the hoop more.

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Sangfroid wrote:

holfresh wrote:Chandler has been in the league what 12/13 years..He just decided to lift and work on his offense in the off season ..

You would think that the way he got his ass kicked in the playoffs last year would make him come back improved. NO SUCH LUCK. He was supposed to spend a couple of weeks at the "Dream Camp". I guess he missed those sessions.

To be fair, Tyson looked great at the start of the season until his leg injury. Nothing stops momentum like an injury.

That being said, I think you have to package Tyson and Melo or ship them out separately and get as much as you can for them. This team is going nowhere fast. Let Stat expire, build through the draft and get some cap space to make a run at a great FA in a couple years when you have a roster people want to play with.

We have waited this long, this mess won't clean itself up over night.

Dudes at MSG has to pay bills in Midtown Manhattan..They aren't tanking anytime soon to rebuild the conventional way..Just a fact of life..They are profiting from the garbage on the floor..What biz owner walks away from that?..