holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:rebuilding around melo= fail..

lets move on..

it would be so much more enjoyable to talk about actually rebuilding with a real plan, around fresh talent, good character guys with talent, who want to be here with no other agendas... no TV shows for their wives, etc....I mean lets move the topic away from this loser.. time to rebuild the right way. let carmelo take JR smith and kenyon martin with him to wherever he wants to go.... add woody on that sinking ship as well..

A non- realistic plan that included Lin, right??..You may not like it but Melo will be resigned...

why are we discussing LIN? listen if you want to come at me this way, I will pull your skirt down, don't let me go back and pull some of your classic homer post.. I would cool down if I were you.. pick your troubles else where bro....

U need some growth..

I have your growth..

I doubt that very much..U can bury your head in the sand and continue to sulk that your favorite players aren't on the team...Melo will be a Knick for a long time...U can continue to whine like a two year old and post unrealistic scenarios tho, free country...

and the knicks will never win... so I don't want to hear any complaints from you.... you are team melo for life.. rofl..

U remind me of JR Smith..Ur favorite/s are on not on the team so u whine and moan and be disruptive when the opportunity presents itself..

nah, this team sucks, which is why i am upset.. if this team were good, had a real franchise player, quality player, leaders.. I would be fine, regardless if they were my favorite.. actually they would be my favorite as I favor players with those qualities..

instead we have a bunch of clowns, posers, losers, and fools.... so yea, I am pissed.....

you remind me of carmelo.. don't care if you lose, as long as you get what you want... as long as you get to watch carmelo go 4-23, you are just fine, because he did score 26 points, in a blowout loss.. but hey he did i mention he scored 26? LOL

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:rebuilding around melo= fail..

lets move on..

it would be so much more enjoyable to talk about actually rebuilding with a real plan, around fresh talent, good character guys with talent, who want to be here with no other agendas... no TV shows for their wives, etc....I mean lets move the topic away from this loser.. time to rebuild the right way. let carmelo take JR smith and kenyon martin with him to wherever he wants to go.... add woody on that sinking ship as well..

A non- realistic plan that included Lin, right??..You may not like it but Melo will be resigned...

why are we discussing LIN? listen if you want to come at me this way, I will pull your skirt down, don't let me go back and pull some of your classic homer post.. I would cool down if I were you.. pick your troubles else where bro....

U need some growth..

I have your growth..

I doubt that very much..U can bury your head in the sand and continue to sulk that your favorite players aren't on the team...Melo will be a Knick for a long time...U can continue to whine like a two year old and post unrealistic scenarios tho, free country...

and the knicks will never win... so I don't want to hear any complaints from you.... you are team melo for life.. rofl..

U remind me of JR Smith..Ur favorite/s are on not on the team so u whine and moan and be disruptive when the opportunity presents itself..

nah, this team sucks, which is why i am upset.. if this team were good, had a real franchise player, quality player, leaders.. I would be fine, regardless if they were my favorite.. actually they would be my favorite as I favor players with those qualities..

instead we have a bunch of clowns, posers, losers, and fools.... so yea, I am pissed.....

you remind me of carmelo.. don't care if you lose, as long as you get what you want... as long as you get to watch carmelo go 4-23, you are just fine, because he did score 26 points, in a blowout loss.. but hey he did i mention he scored 26? LOL

Well we played well last year and you belly ached all year...Here is what u don't understand about me, I'm a realist and know Melo will be here and would like to see scenarios we could build around him to put us in a good situation...I don't care who is in a Knick uniform as long as we are winning...I didn't give two ****s about Melo until he got here..I root for the uniform unlike you...I remember you posted a few weeks ago there are people here who root for Melo more than the team...That's funny because I rooted for the team not matter who is in uniform..I always root for the Knicks even with scrubs like Lin are running the show..Can u say the same???..Who is really rooting for players and who really roots for the team...Bro you root for the team to lose, think about that...Then you are coming at me for liking players on the team..

tkf wrote:

martin wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:rebuilding around melo= fail..

lets move on..

it would be so much more enjoyable to talk about actually rebuilding with a real plan, around fresh talent, good character guys with talent, who want to be here with no other agendas... no TV shows for their wives, etc....I mean lets move the topic away from this loser.. time to rebuild the right way. let carmelo take JR smith and kenyon martin with him to wherever he wants to go.... add woody on that sinking ship as well..

A non- realistic plan that included Lin, right??..You may not like it but Melo will be resigned...

why are we discussing LIN? listen if you want to come at me this way, I will pull your skirt down, don't let me go back and pull some of your classic homer post.. I would cool down if I were you.. pick your troubles else where bro....

U need some growth..

I have your growth..

tkf, if you don't want to participate in thread, please move on.

wait so you mod me, after I was actually contributing to this thread. I actually made an offer to discuss something that everyone could participate in.. outside of the same old. keep carmelo..

holfresh is the one who came at me, and it had nothing to do with this thread.. why isn't he being modded?

no tkf, you really don't have anything to contribute to this thread. It's about rebuilding around Melo and you have made it abundantly clear in too many threads that you don't want to have anything to do with Melo.

We get it, you hate the Knicks with Melo on the team, but there is no need to drag every thread into "I hate Melo".

Move on please.

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:rebuilding around melo= fail..

lets move on..

it would be so much more enjoyable to talk about actually rebuilding with a real plan, around fresh talent, good character guys with talent, who want to be here with no other agendas... no TV shows for their wives, etc....I mean lets move the topic away from this loser.. time to rebuild the right way. let carmelo take JR smith and kenyon martin with him to wherever he wants to go.... add woody on that sinking ship as well..

A non- realistic plan that included Lin, right??..You may not like it but Melo will be resigned...

why are we discussing LIN? listen if you want to come at me this way, I will pull your skirt down, don't let me go back and pull some of your classic homer post.. I would cool down if I were you.. pick your troubles else where bro....

U need some growth..

I have your growth..

I doubt that very much..U can bury your head in the sand and continue to sulk that your favorite players aren't on the team...Melo will be a Knick for a long time...U can continue to whine like a two year old and post unrealistic scenarios tho, free country...

and the knicks will never win... so I don't want to hear any complaints from you.... you are team melo for life.. rofl..

U remind me of JR Smith..Ur favorite/s are on not on the team so u whine and moan and be disruptive when the opportunity presents itself..

nah, this team sucks, which is why i am upset.. if this team were good, had a real franchise player, quality player, leaders.. I would be fine, regardless if they were my favorite.. actually they would be my favorite as I favor players with those qualities..

instead we have a bunch of clowns, posers, losers, and fools.... so yea, I am pissed.....

you remind me of carmelo.. don't care if you lose, as long as you get what you want... as long as you get to watch carmelo go 4-23, you are just fine, because he did score 26 points, in a blowout loss.. but hey he did i mention he scored 26? LOL

Well we played well last year and you belly ached all year...Here is what u don't understand about me, I'm a realist and know Melo will be here and would like to see scenarios we could build around him to put us in a good situation...I don't care who is in a Knick uniform as long as we are winning...I didn't give two ****s about Melo until he got here..I root for the uniform unlike you...I remember you posted a few weeks ago there are people here who root for Melo more than the team...That's funny because I rooted for the team not matter who is in uniform..I always root for the Knicks even with scrubs like Lin are running the show..Can u say the same???..Who is really rooting for players and who really roots for the team...Bro you root for the team to lose, think about that...Then you are coming at me for liking players on the team..

you aren't a realist, not even close. you're closer to a nihilist.

a realist would realize that dolan is a LOSER and attracts LOSERS and supports LOSERS. no use in denying history and his track record... and melo's.

you are resigned to the fact that dolan is the owner and that you believe that melo will be signed for max money. this is an utterly hopeless cause for someone who wants to see titles in msg. oh i forgot... for you basketball is entertainment and a business. winning is really rather secondary-- even meaningless, right? well that's just more nihilism.

alternatively, there was a ship called the titanic and i recall being told that the string quartet continued playing as the ship [be] sinkin'.

you remind me very much of one of these musicians.

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says
To rebuild we need not a good but a great point guard and a pure shooting guard.

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:rebuilding around melo= fail..

lets move on..

it would be so much more enjoyable to talk about actually rebuilding with a real plan, around fresh talent, good character guys with talent, who want to be here with no other agendas... no TV shows for their wives, etc....I mean lets move the topic away from this loser.. time to rebuild the right way. let carmelo take JR smith and kenyon martin with him to wherever he wants to go.... add woody on that sinking ship as well..

A non- realistic plan that included Lin, right??..You may not like it but Melo will be resigned...

why are we discussing LIN? listen if you want to come at me this way, I will pull your skirt down, don't let me go back and pull some of your classic homer post.. I would cool down if I were you.. pick your troubles else where bro....

U need some growth..

I have your growth..

I doubt that very much..U can bury your head in the sand and continue to sulk that your favorite players aren't on the team...Melo will be a Knick for a long time...U can continue to whine like a two year old and post unrealistic scenarios tho, free country...

and the knicks will never win... so I don't want to hear any complaints from you.... you are team melo for life.. rofl..

U remind me of JR Smith..Ur favorite/s are on not on the team so u whine and moan and be disruptive when the opportunity presents itself..

nah, this team sucks, which is why i am upset.. if this team were good, had a real franchise player, quality player, leaders.. I would be fine, regardless if they were my favorite.. actually they would be my favorite as I favor players with those qualities..

instead we have a bunch of clowns, posers, losers, and fools.... so yea, I am pissed.....

you remind me of carmelo.. don't care if you lose, as long as you get what you want... as long as you get to watch carmelo go 4-23, you are just fine, because he did score 26 points, in a blowout loss.. but hey he did i mention he scored 26? LOL

Well we played well last year and you belly ached all year...Here is what u don't understand about me, I'm a realist and know Melo will be here and would like to see scenarios we could build around him to put us in a good situation...I don't care who is in a Knick uniform as long as we are winning...I didn't give two ****s about Melo until he got here..I root for the uniform unlike you...I remember you posted a few weeks ago there are people here who root for Melo more than the team...That's funny because I rooted for the team not matter who is in uniform..I always root for the Knicks even with scrubs like Lin are running the show..Can u say the same???..Who is really rooting for players and who really roots for the team...Bro you root for the team to lose, think about that...Then you are coming at me for liking players on the team..

you aren't a realist, not even close. you're closer to a nihilist.

a realist would realize that dolan is a LOSER and attracts LOSERS and supports LOSERS. no use in denying history and his track record... and melo's.

you are resigned to the fact that dolan is the owner and that you believe that melo will be signed for max money. this is an utterly hopeless cause for someone who wants to see titles in msg. oh i forgot... for you basketball is entertainment and a business. winning is really rather secondary-- even meaningless, right? well that's just more nihilism.

alternatively, there was a ship called the titanic and i recall being told that the string quartet continued playing as the ship [be] sinkin'.

you remind me very much of one of these musicians.

mrKnickshot was right about u..Ur just vile and nasty...

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says
To rebuild we need not a good but a great point guard and a pure shooting guard.

We won't be able to get that when Melo alone takes up half the cap and we have no picks. And having that alone won't work if we don't have good front-court players too.

You are assuming that Melo will take all of the money he can get. Well if he does that then we will know that he has no interest in winning a championship just the money he wants. Well I don't think so. I think that he really wants to win in New York and he will take less money for another star.

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:

holfresh wrote:

tkf wrote:rebuilding around melo= fail..

lets move on..

it would be so much more enjoyable to talk about actually rebuilding with a real plan, around fresh talent, good character guys with talent, who want to be here with no other agendas... no TV shows for their wives, etc....I mean lets move the topic away from this loser.. time to rebuild the right way. let carmelo take JR smith and kenyon martin with him to wherever he wants to go.... add woody on that sinking ship as well..

A non- realistic plan that included Lin, right??..You may not like it but Melo will be resigned...

why are we discussing LIN? listen if you want to come at me this way, I will pull your skirt down, don't let me go back and pull some of your classic homer post.. I would cool down if I were you.. pick your troubles else where bro....

U need some growth..

I have your growth..

I doubt that very much..U can bury your head in the sand and continue to sulk that your favorite players aren't on the team...Melo will be a Knick for a long time...U can continue to whine like a two year old and post unrealistic scenarios tho, free country...

and the knicks will never win... so I don't want to hear any complaints from you.... you are team melo for life.. rofl..

U remind me of JR Smith..Ur favorite/s are on not on the team so u whine and moan and be disruptive when the opportunity presents itself..

nah, this team sucks, which is why i am upset.. if this team were good, had a real franchise player, quality player, leaders.. I would be fine, regardless if they were my favorite.. actually they would be my favorite as I favor players with those qualities..

instead we have a bunch of clowns, posers, losers, and fools.... so yea, I am pissed.....

you remind me of carmelo.. don't care if you lose, as long as you get what you want... as long as you get to watch carmelo go 4-23, you are just fine, because he did score 26 points, in a blowout loss.. but hey he did i mention he scored 26? LOL

Well we played well last year and you belly ached all year...Here is what u don't understand about me, I'm a realist and know Melo will be here and would like to see scenarios we could build around him to put us in a good situation...I don't care who is in a Knick uniform as long as we are winning...I didn't give two ****s about Melo until he got here..I root for the uniform unlike you...I remember you posted a few weeks ago there are people here who root for Melo more than the team...That's funny because I rooted for the team not matter who is in uniform..I always root for the Knicks even with scrubs like Lin are running the show..Can u say the same???..Who is really rooting for players and who really roots for the team...Bro you root for the team to lose, think about that...Then you are coming at me for liking players on the team..

you aren't a realist, not even close. you're closer to a nihilist.

a realist would realize that dolan is a LOSER and attracts LOSERS and supports LOSERS. no use in denying history and his track record... and melo's.

you are resigned to the fact that dolan is the owner and that you believe that melo will be signed for max money. this is an utterly hopeless cause for someone who wants to see titles in msg. oh i forgot... for you basketball is entertainment and a business. winning is really rather secondary-- even meaningless, right? well that's just more nihilism.

alternatively, there was a ship called the titanic and i recall being told that the string quartet continued playing as the ship [be] sinkin'.

you remind me very much of one of these musicians.

mrKnickshot was right about u..Ur just vile and nasty...

you should have stuck with <crickets>

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says
To rebuild we need not a good but a great point guard and a pure shooting guard.

We won't be able to get that when Melo alone takes up half the cap and we have no picks. And having that alone won't work if we don't have good front-court players too.

Papabear Says

You are assuming that Melo will take all of the money he can get. Well if he does that then we will know that he has no interest in winning a championship just the money he wants. Well I don't think so. I think that he really wants to win in New York and he will take less money for another star.

I think he would be crazy not to take all of the money unless he has another star or two in his pocket like the three sisters in Miami. Also, if he is just about winning he might leave. The Knicks seemed to be headed in the right direction and then fired their gm and kept Chris. Things have been crazy since. The guy is the hardest working man in the nba and one of the most talented.

he's talented but dumb. he has poor shot selection and is often out of control taking stupid shots or committing offensive fouls.

hardworking? depends. working hard on defense is almost never dumb.

working hard to score points on offense is almost always dumb.

he is just too dumb and lazy to win as the main guy so there is absolutely no point in building around him. absolutely ludicrous.

no tkf, you really don't have anything to contribute to this thread. It's about rebuilding around Melo and you have made it abundantly clear in too many threads that you don't want to have anything to do with Melo.

We get it, you hate the Knicks with Melo on the team, but there is no need to drag every thread into "I hate Melo".

Move on please

holfresh wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

holfresh wrote:It's time for this organization to start thinking about rebuilding around Melo..JVG said it last night...They have to entertain trade scenarios around Chandler, Shump, etc...We might have to take a second look at Lowry...

Havent we rebuilt around Melo already?

Why exactly would first place Toronto sell their starting PG that ship passed

We have little to rebuild around Melo we made a big commitment to Bargnani you know thats that. Jim Dolan said this is a championship team--a guy like that does not admit mistake EVER. He will have the company line as injuries and well be back next year or 7-8th seed this year or whatever. This is a bad team for a dozen years sans 1--get ready for the next decade.

Simply put, NO..We need to put the pieces in place and clear the dead weight for day Amare's contract expires...Lowry isn't staying in Toronto unless they pay him a fortune...Toronto will lose him for nothing...We didn't make any commitment to Bargs that goes beyond Amare's deal, so thats no issue...Dolan will resign Melo...We have a couple of years to find pieces that fit around him and the next guy...

So in actually we've committed to Bargnani all the way to 2018......smh.

However, not at his current age!

Denver already tried this- and they wisely moved on.

At his current age, and minutes already player & at his likely salary, it is foolish to try to build around Melo.

Unless of course Lebron comes here- but then you wouldn't be building around Melo.

Between his cap it, and the lack of draft picks available here in the short term, there is just no way to add the kind of talent that any player (perhaps short of a Lebron/Duncan/MJ type player) needs.

The only chance we have to build around Melo is to absolutely tank next season when we own our own pick and land the top pick and score a franchise type talent.

But that will be luck, and NOT building around Melo.

Does anyone really think Melo will be able to sustain his performance for the next 3 years, beyond this season?

Be honest with yourselves. Melo already has played a ton of minutes - hard minutes. He's not cut like Lebron. Maybe his dough-boy body type will hold up.

Maybe.

But be honest and objective.

I hope Steve Mills is and will be.