MSG3 wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:Yep. He still goes one on one A LOT but his play is has still been great.

Melo going one on one isn't a problem. Last night proves it. He roasted the greatest defender in the game. Miami had LeBron (or Wade) on him one on one all night. The problem comes when Melo tries to take on double and triple teams.

It might not be pretty, but I'd let Melo shoot every time if he wasn't getting double teamed. When he makes quick decisions and only has one defender on him, hes unstoppable.

Vmart wrote:I'm liking him a lot. This is how I envisioned Melo. I have to give him props for the change in his game. His trust in his teammates is noticeable. The assists are up and his efficiency is much better. I hope this type of play continues. For rest of the year and not just a month or two.

It's largely the same Melo we've always had. The only difference now is that guys (Shumpert) has started hitting shots, which takes the burden off of him having to do everything.

NardDogNation wrote:

Vmart wrote:I'm liking him a lot. This is how I envisioned Melo. I have to give him props for the change in his game. His trust in his teammates is noticeable. The assists are up and his efficiency is much better. I hope this type of play continues. For rest of the year and not just a month or two.

It's largely the same Melo we've always had. The only difference now is that guys (Shumpert) has started hitting shots, which takes the burden off of him having to do everything.

exactly.

Knick fans don't watch games, they watch box scores.

Bonn1997 wrote:The biggest change is that he's increased his rebounds and decreased his turnovers. The rest is about the same but those two changes definitely help.

His 3pt fg% is also up this year @ 40%, as well as his freethrow % @ 84% and I believe he's averaging more steals.

Uptown wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:The biggest change is that he's increased his rebounds and decreased his turnovers. The rest is about the same but those two changes definitely help.

His 3pt fg% is also up this year @ 40%, as well as his freethrow % @ 84% and I believe he's averaging more steals.

http://knickerblogger.net/um-why-is-jr-really-bad-this-year/#comment-457767

Melo is a net +16 per 100 possessions this year (+7 on O, -9 on D surprisingly) – that is outrageously good. To give you an idea how good, Lebron was a net +18/100 poss last year after having one of the best years by any player ever basically. Last year, he was without a doubt the centerpiece of the #3 offense in the league, and was essentially a net neutral on defense. This year, it’s without question that he’s worth every penny – they’d probably have 2 wins instead of 11 if he was out all year.

btw compare to Dwight Howard, who was everyone’s favorite offseason signing, basically making the same $ as Melo. So far this year Howard has been amazing on defense — a net -10 (in a good way) points/100 poss when he’s on the floor. But he’s been just as bad on offense – a net -10 on offense per 100 poss – mostly because he basically refuses to run PNR which he’s great at, which could be analogous to Melo insisting on midrange Js. And it’s not just this year that he hasn’t been great on O -Dwight was a net neutral on offense last year with the Lakers (granted he was injured in the beginning of the year). Does anyone think Howard isn’t worth the money even though he’s basically a net even or negative on 1 end of the floor, not to mention you can’t play him in crunch time because he’s so horrible from the FT line?

yellowboy90 wrote:I'll parrot this stat about Melo

http://knickerblogger.net/um-why-is-jr-really-bad-this-year/#comment-457767

Melo is a net +16 per 100 possessions this year (+7 on O, -9 on D surprisingly) – that is outrageously good. To give you an idea how good, Lebron was a net +18/100 poss last year after having one of the best years by any player ever basically. Last year, he was without a doubt the centerpiece of the #3 offense in the league, and was essentially a net neutral on defense. This year, it’s without question that he’s worth every penny – they’d probably have 2 wins instead of 11 if he was out all year.

btw compare to Dwight Howard, who was everyone’s favorite offseason signing, basically making the same $ as Melo. So far this year Howard has been amazing on defense — a net -10 (in a good way) points/100 poss when he’s on the floor. But he’s been just as bad on offense – a net -10 on offense per 100 poss – mostly because he basically refuses to run PNR which he’s great at, which could be analogous to Melo insisting on midrange Js. And it’s not just this year that he hasn’t been great on O -Dwight was a net neutral on offense last year with the Lakers (granted he was injured in the beginning of the year). Does anyone think Howard isn’t worth the money even though he’s basically a net even or negative on 1 end of the floor, not to mention you can’t play him in crunch time because he’s so horrible from the FT line?

Be careful about endorsing +/-. There's a lot of brutal data from Melo's career to explain.
I might give it a little weight, but it would be low - in PER, FG% territory.

Bonn1997 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

fishmike wrote:I thought he was pretty awsome last year also. He and MDA didnt work. Once that situation dissolved Melo has been a top 10 player for the Knicks, hands down. Only donkeys and tfk cant see that

Seriously...Dude was top 5 in MVP voting and helped us win the division with 54 wins.

MVP voting is basically by ill-informed casual observers.
Any statistically informed analysis at this point would indicate that Melo is still not a superstar but he is playing at a reasonably high level.

You can't believe what Bon Bon say. He will do and say anything to discredit Melo. Check the stats out yourself. Melo is a superstar.

Bonn1997 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

fishmike wrote:I thought he was pretty awsome last year also. He and MDA didnt work. Once that situation dissolved Melo has been a top 10 player for the Knicks, hands down. Only donkeys and tfk cant see that

Seriously...Dude was top 5 in MVP voting and helped us win the division with 54 wins.

MVP voting is basically by ill-informed casual observers.
Any statistically informed analysis at this point would indicate that Melo is still not a superstar but he is playing at a reasonably high level.