VMart - agree.

If Mike Woodson benched JR it would be a good thing. Let him pout.

Vmart wrote:

bernard wrote:I think the Knicks have leaked JR trading interest because it's about the only thing they can do to let him know there are consequences to his idiotic actions. No other team wants him and his contract.

The only way we move him is if we take on someone else's mistake -- with both teams hoping the "change in environment" resuscitates guys who aren't getting it done. Even though that almost never works, I'd be happy to do it just to get rid of JR as long as we don't add a longer commitment to an overpaid player.

You may be right about the leak but that can back fire on them because JR is not a professional. He can and has shown that he can give absolutely no effort and will sabotage the coach the team and anyone. I don't trust JR, I'm still wondering how Woody can trust him so much. Woody is stunting Hardaway and Shumps development for JR.

Yeah ... we're all so frustrated with this clown that we want to see him get punished. and for sure, that may not work. It's a tough call when to give up on a guy. He really was excellent last year, until the playoffs. But he's been god awful for a long time -- this isn't just a slump, and what we're doing isn't working.

I'd bench him for a few games (we have plenty of depth at guard with Ray Ray back) and tell him clearly what he has to do to earn minutes back in practice. Tell him you're still rooting for him, but things have to change. That might not work. Woody might lose him altogether. But can't keep doing what we're doing and hoping that all of a sudden something will click with him. And, worst case, we stop giving minutes to a guy who's been hurting the team on and off the court. We'd get better play from others and show everyone that you get held accountable for your actions and your play.

Bonn1997 wrote:

H1AND1 wrote:I really cant see the Thunder giving up Collison and DEFINITELY not Lamb. Noooo way. Maybe Sefalosha and a 2nd round pick. Maybe. Whoever wrote that article is hitting the crack pipe. Presti is smart and only a moron would give up so much for JR Smith. LOL.

I don't think any team would give up an expiring contract or a 2nd round pick for JR right now. It would have to be a useless player with a worse contract.

Oh, wait, Sefalosha is an expiring? LOL, you're right. I assumed he had some years left.

Sangfroid wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:There would be a market for last season's JR, but I doubt this year's version is getting any interest other than a way to get rid of their own JR.

Does anyone come to mind when we look for a JR comparison?

Starbury.

Sangfroid wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:There would be a market for last season's JR, but I doubt this year's version is getting any interest other than a way to get rid of their own JR.

Does anyone come to mind when we look for a JR comparison?

I don't believe there is a carbon copy of JR out there, thank God. Just another way of saying someone else's headache.

Papabear posted a trade idea featuring Gary Neal. Might end up being the kind of player we take back, someone who is negatively affecting team chemistry.

Markji wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

NYY1NYK2 wrote:Read online the thunder are looking for a scorer since they lost kevin martin. Smith could be their scorer off the bench.

Rumored to be giving sefolosha,collison and a pick. or collison, a pick and Lamb.

I like lamb, he's a good prospect

Is the bold part a joke?

Source?

The New York Knicks are exploring the possibilities of trading veteran shooting guard J.R Smith, and the Oklahoma City Thunder appear a good landing spot for the reigning Sixth Man of the Year....

Thundering Sixth Man

The Oklahoma City Thunder could be an ideal trade destination for Smith, who is a proven scorer when motivated - especially if he's playing for a contender.

Last season, Smith averaged 18.1 points and 5.3 rebounds on his way to a Sixth Man of the Year crown. Coincidentally, the Knicks were also winning a lot of ballgames last year, and the play of Smith undoubtedly helped them achieve supremacy in the Eastern Conference.

Smith could be a valuable scorer off the bench for any contender, and the Thunder, which lost dynamic bench scorers in James Harden and Kevin Martin, could benefit from a potential trade with the Knicks.

"After losing James Harden in 2012 and now Kevin Martin, the Oklahoma City Thunder could use some scoring at shooting guard. While Smith isn't as efficient, the asking price makes it a fair compromise."

"In return, the Knicks could ask for Thabo Sefolosha, Nick Collison and a draft pick, giving them another defensive specialist and an experienced center behind Tyson Chandler while also helping to replenish the stock of picks they've given up over the years," via Bleacher Report.

If the Thunder holds on Sefolosha, they can also have an option of trading away prospect Jeremy Lamb to hammer the deal.

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/533506/20140109/nba-trade-rumors.htm

Don't underestimate JR Smith's value. He can turn it on and teams need that energy off the bench. JR is acting like an idiot because he is mad at the Knick's management. Other teams know that he can turn that around and he is worth the gamble. His salary is very reasonable for what he accomplished last year.

Until he finds the gully spots in OKIE DOKIE, to hang out in.
He would be looking for a chance to do what he do in the south west