I still hate it when the Knicks lose. Alot. As opposed to rooting for losses and hoping our draft picks that we don't have get better for other teams, so I can glory in my DolanMeloMillsMSGHate.

Happiness is based on happenstance. All the rest is bining and witching.

Be a thermostat, not a thermometer. Or something to that effect.

jrodmc wrote:Given the other ranked laughingstocks in the thread, I'd much rather be here in KnickHomerland, thank you.
Personal preference, team loyalty.

I still hate it when the Knicks lose. Alot. As opposed to rooting for losses and hoping our draft picks that we don't have get better for other teams, so I can glory in my DolanMeloMillsMSGHate.

Happiness is based on happenstance. All the rest is bining and witching.

Be a thermostat, not a thermometer. Or something to that effect.

Tune in or tune out?

Been a fan since 1970. Sorry, was Just a kid!

coming up on 44 years since we won a chip. Most would have jumped off the wagon by now.
We not any closer are we?

But I still got my window seat.

MSG, where the arena gets renovated but not the roster!

jrodmc wrote:

Nalod wrote:

jrodmc wrote:Given the other ranked laughingstocks in the thread, I'd much rather be here in KnickHomerland, thank you.
Personal preference, team loyalty.

I still hate it when the Knicks lose. Alot. As opposed to rooting for losses and hoping our draft picks that we don't have get better for other teams, so I can glory in my DolanMeloMillsMSGHate.

Happiness is based on happenstance. All the rest is bining and witching.

Be a thermostat, not a thermometer. Or something to that effect.

Tune in or tune out?

You'll want to be in it when we win it.

frontrunner
Also known as "Fair-weather fan".

People who only support sports teams that recently win championships and then claim they liked that team all along. These people can be highly annoying, approaching them may result in increased levels of stress and aggression. Frontrunners may claim they have a relative or were born in the state where the winning team is from. Do not trust them at any cost.

you need competent ownership. we have one of the worst owners in all sports.
you need competent management. management has been a joke for as long as ownership has been around. one short interlude of league-based intervention allowed for a decent gm to come in with a plan, only to be yanked off the rails in the 11th hour of his contract by one of the worst owners in all sports.
you need coaching, managing, and ownership existing on the same page. that never happens here.
you need players with high character and skill who sacrifice and develop their games in order to become winners. we never have key players who are in this mold. our most expensive player is a LOSER.

StarksEwing1 wrote:
First of all Knick fans are the most loyal fans IMO. there are no bandwagon fans. I mean i understand that you dont like to criticize the team i really do. However IMO the best fans are the fans who arent afraid to call out the team and the organization. We do it because we want teh team to do well

Loyal to what, in your opinion? Themselves? Their own subject matter expertise? Their own opinions? Their own sanctified worldview that they will not, can not and should not associate themselves with a team that's a loser? That they'd rather stamp their feet and whine and pout and mitch and boan endlessly about blowing it all up over and over again? Because it helps their self esteem? It's a fuhucking pro basketball team. I've followed them since the glory years and they are my team. End of story. You don't like the team, the ugly orange uni, the owner, the starphucque players, the malcontents and the psychopaths? Tough darts farmer. Complain away. Hold your breath. Bang your skull with your fists.

There are no bandwagon fans? Do you even read the majority of the mitching tripe on here since the season began? Posting on a fan site doesn't make you a fan. It can make you a blathering idiot who loves to read his own posts. [jrodmc, as a case in point. -- Boo, Nalod!]

I criticize the team. I've criticized players and coaches. I Dolan troll with the best and brightest of Durant azz suckers on here. Homerism only means never ever having to say you're sorry you're a Knick fan (even during IT and Starbles and EScurry). It doesn't mean you don't have any of the pure logical nobility of the professional somberistas on here who fancy themselves billion dollar general managers when most of them would probably sweat through balancing a check book. Or that homerism automatically means you cannot possess any of the the clear-eyed rationalism that evokes things like "I'm rooting for Knick losses!"

Constructive criticism, fine. Calling out the team continually and endlessly and disparaging every other azzhole who puts on the uni or coaches or gm's is just tiring.

Bonn1997 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:
First of all Knick fans are the most loyal fans IMO. there are no bandwagon fans. I mean i understand that you dont like to criticize the team i really do. However IMO the best fans are the fans who arent afraid to call out the team and the organization. We do it because we want teh team to do well

Loyal to what, in your opinion? Themselves? Their own subject matter expertise? Their own opinions? Their own sanctified worldview that they will not, can not and should not associate themselves with a team that's a loser? That they'd rather stamp their feet and whine and pout and mitch and boan endlessly about blowing it all up over and over again? Because it helps their self esteem? It's a fuhucking pro basketball team. I've followed them since the glory years and they are my team. End of story. You don't like the team, the ugly orange uni, the owner, the starphucque players, the malcontents and the psychopaths? Tough darts farmer. Complain away. Hold your breath. Bang your skull with your fists.

There are no bandwagon fans? Do you even read the majority of the mitching tripe on here since the season began? Posting on a fan site doesn't make you a fan. It can make you a blathering idiot who loves to read his own posts. [jrodmc, as a case in point. -- Boo, Nalod!]

I criticize the team. I've criticized players and coaches. I Dolan troll with the best and brightest of Durant azz suckers on here. Homerism only means never ever having to say you're sorry you're a Knick fan (even during IT and Starbles and EScurry). It doesn't mean you don't have any of the pure logical nobility of the professional somberistas on here who fancy themselves billion dollar general managers when most of them would probably sweat through balancing a check book. Or that homerism automatically means you cannot possess any of the the clear-eyed rationalism that evokes things like "I'm rooting for Knick losses!"

Constructive criticism, fine. Calling out the team continually and endlessly and disparaging every other azzhole who puts on the uni or coaches or gm's is just tiring.

I agree but essays complaining about the complainers are just as tiring.

One liners that say very little [and could be self-referential] are terribly entertaining though.

Essays? It's two and half small paragraphs. Do you have an efficiency metric for the redundancy of posting on the UK?

BRIGGS wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:
First of all Knick fans are the most loyal fans IMO. there are no bandwagon fans. I mean i understand that you dont like to criticize the team i really do. However IMO the best fans are the fans who arent afraid to call out the team and the organization. We do it because we want teh team to do well

Loyal to what, in your opinion? Themselves? Their own subject matter expertise? Their own opinions? Their own sanctified worldview that they will not, can not and should not associate themselves with a team that's a loser? That they'd rather stamp their feet and whine and pout and mitch and boan endlessly about blowing it all up over and over again? Because it helps their self esteem? It's a fuhucking pro basketball team. I've followed them since the glory years and they are my team. End of story. You don't like the team, the ugly orange uni, the owner, the starphucque players, the malcontents and the psychopaths? Tough darts farmer. Complain away. Hold your breath. Bang your skull with your fists.

There are no bandwagon fans? Do you even read the majority of the mitching tripe on here since the season began? Posting on a fan site doesn't make you a fan. It can make you a blathering idiot who loves to read his own posts. [jrodmc, as a case in point. -- Boo, Nalod!]

I criticize the team. I've criticized players and coaches. I Dolan troll with the best and brightest of Durant azz suckers on here. Homerism only means never ever having to say you're sorry you're a Knick fan (even during IT and Starbles and EScurry). It doesn't mean you don't have any of the pure logical nobility of the professional somberistas on here who fancy themselves billion dollar general managers when most of them would probably sweat through balancing a check book. Or that homerism automatically means you cannot possess any of the the clear-eyed rationalism that evokes things like "I'm rooting for Knick losses!"

Constructive criticism, fine. Calling out the team continually and endlessly and disparaging every other azzhole who puts on the uni or coaches or gm's is just tiring.

I agree but essays complaining about the complainers are just as tiring.

Bonn no posts necessary. All anyone has to do is look at the massive cash spent in the last 12 years and the return on investment in terms of w@s. the fact is the knicks have been the worst run organization in professional sports bar none and fans are sick of it. There is no bandwagon fan there are many fans who have had snuff of this inane management. Namely our midget owner

Absolutely no posts necessary.

Fans are loyal to ...fans. Brilliant!