foosballnick wrote:

Nalod wrote: The only difference is they have more tradable assets and can undo thier mess. Deron for Rockets can return decent value. Pierce can bring back a young asset.

I disagree. Melo and Chandler are both currently assets. Shump can be a better asset if the coach/GM can pump his value instead of deflating it. Although his value is not high, JR has a manageable contract figure and could have value in the right situation with a structured and disciplined team and coach (I think of Steven Jackson). Felton has value to a team in need of a solid backup at point. The Knicks can bring back multiple first rounders from the combined Melo and Tyson values......and 3-4 second rounders from JR and Felton. Shump is a wild card.....I would not give him up/trade him at a low value.

Its a nice thought. Melo has leverage cuz he has to resign to where he goes. If not, we got nothing.

Tyson has some value if you take back Perkins and some Utes from Thunder.

As for JR for picks you have to take back some salary and while his contract is good, who wants him?
A structed and diciplined team? LIke SAS? Im all for it.

multiple first rounders? Easy to type isn't it? First off Dolan knows you can't sell seats with first round picks. Second rounders are nice to incubate players but you might have noticed they are more valuable now and don't get traded like they used to. Some teams do real well with this.

Nets have just two players tough to move:

Joe Johnson because of his contract and Bropez because his foot. Rest of the team can be moved on a dime.

Bonn1997 wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

Nalod wrote: The only difference is they have more tradable assets and can undo thier mess. Deron for Rockets can return decent value. Pierce can bring back a young asset.

I disagree. Melo and Chandler are both currently assets. Shump can be a better asset if the coach/GM can pump his value instead of deflating it. Although his value is not high, JR has a manageable contract figure and could have value in the right situation with a structured and disciplined team and coach (I think of Steven Jackson). Felton has value to a team in need of a solid backup at point. The Knicks can bring back multiple first rounders from the combined Melo and Tyson values......and 3-4 second rounders from JR and Felton. Shump is a wild card.....I would not give him up/trade him at a low value.

On a fifteen player roster, we have only 3 players who could be called assets (Melo, Chandler, and TH Jr). That's pretty bad. The Nets are in a bad situation too though.

Your only saying that because the coach hasn't maximize his talent..Like Amare said earlier in the season, the coach has made him look like he's washed up, and IMO he's made most of our roster look horrible...Everybody's stock has spiraled down in just 7 wks into the season..

He would make labron look avg

MDA LOSES 7 straight games and steps down

Woodson wins 7 straight games following the losses with the same exact roster.

Clearly mda knew the team and it's primary players had tuned him out. We have assets that aren't playing anywhere near there potential, so everybody looks suspect.

nixluva wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

Nalod wrote: The only difference is they have more tradable assets and can undo thier mess. Deron for Rockets can return decent value. Pierce can bring back a young asset.

I disagree. Melo and Chandler are both currently assets. Shump can be a better asset if the coach/GM can pump his value instead of deflating it. Although his value is not high, JR has a manageable contract figure and could have value in the right situation with a structured and disciplined team and coach (I think of Steven Jackson). Felton has value to a team in need of a solid backup at point. The Knicks can bring back multiple first rounders from the combined Melo and Tyson values......and 3-4 second rounders from JR and Felton. Shump is a wild card.....I would not give him up/trade him at a low value.

On a fifteen player roster, we have only 3 players who could be called assets (Melo, Chandler, and TH Jr). That's pretty bad. The Nets are in a bad situation too though.

Your only saying that because the coach hasn't maximize his talent..Like Amare said earlier in the season, the coach has made him look like he's washed up, and IMO he's made most of our roster look horrible...Everybody's stock has spiraled down in just 7 wks into the season..

He would make labron look avg

We Got Fooled! Woody was the coach when the team had some amazing winning streaks and it made it seem like it was his coaching that made the difference. Now we know that he's not able to out coach anyone in the playoffs, he's not a defensive guru and that his real offensive ideas are horrible. He's the one that made the switch to more ISO in the playoffs and the brainless idea to try and go big for the 1st time in a playoff series. He's the one that abandoned the offense that he lucked into last year out of necessity rather than intention. Kidd made Woody look like a genius in the regular season. Just watching his lineups and rotations shows he has no clue what is gonna work or not. Worst of all he's coaching desperate and putting his players at risk. Any coach that puts Beno, Bargs, JR and STAT on the floor at the same time is not a defensive genius.

He put that line up on the floor for offensive purposes, but if all there going to do is jack up jumpers and hit 25% Of them, you could put any 10 ppl in the stands and there capable of that.

It also kills me how the media (aside from the local media) prefably the commentators and analysis are blaming the players..rightfully so to some degree, but please don't tell me Jr Smith went from 18 ppl to 11ppg in less then 6 months, in other words "Don't pee on my head and tell me it's raining