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nixluva
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12/19/2013  7:23 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
tkf wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:dude, for all the good bargnani has done this year, he's the last guy that should be getting ripped on. he made a bone-head mistake, but he should be at the bottom of the list on gripes with players.

i actually felt bad for him.. but that play was a dumb, dumb move.. no excuse whatsoever.. He epitomizes a lot what is wrong with this team tho.. not all, but a lot..

Really? I get that that was a horrible play but I think he has played well as a Knick. I don't see him as 'epitomizing what is wrong with this team'. I am not sure why anyone would say that about him. I would put Bargs play in with the positives so far this season.

Just imagine if we had a legit PG and we didn't rely on JR so much at SG? To me a HUGE part of the problem will be solved when we address those 2 issues. JR doesn't deserve the minutes he's getting. Even with his mistakes THJ has earned more minutes at SG IMO. Bargs is a flawed player but overall he's been good for this team. Woody brought Bargs off the bench and it didn't seem to bother his game. I don't see Bargs as a problem for this team.
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12/20/2013  9:55 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
tkf wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:dude, for all the good bargnani has done this year, he's the last guy that should be getting ripped on. he made a bone-head mistake, but he should be at the bottom of the list on gripes with players.

i actually felt bad for him.. but that play was a dumb, dumb move.. no excuse whatsoever.. He epitomizes a lot what is wrong with this team tho.. not all, but a lot..

Really? I get that that was a horrible play but I think he has played well as a Knick. I don't see him as 'epitomizing what is wrong with this team'. I am not sure why anyone would say that about him. I would put Bargs play in with the positives so far this season.

Especially since he was supposed to spend most of his career here on the IR.

Anyway, his bone headed play is obviously the result of playing with Melo. Just ask anyone with a true handle on reality.

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12/20/2013  9:57 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
tkf wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:dude, for all the good bargnani has done this year, he's the last guy that should be getting ripped on. he made a bone-head mistake, but he should be at the bottom of the list on gripes with players.

i actually felt bad for him.. but that play was a dumb, dumb move.. no excuse whatsoever.. He epitomizes a lot what is wrong with this team tho.. not all, but a lot..

Really? I get that that was a horrible play but I think he has played well as a Knick. I don't see him as 'epitomizing what is wrong with this team'. I am not sure why anyone would say that about him. I would put Bargs play in with the positives so far this season.

He's been less bad than expected but he's still scoring inefficiently and not good in any other key areas of the game. You could say his man to man defense is better than expected but that's not enough to compensate for bad shooting and rebounding.

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12/20/2013  10:04 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
tkf wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:dude, for all the good bargnani has done this year, he's the last guy that should be getting ripped on. he made a bone-head mistake, but he should be at the bottom of the list on gripes with players.

i actually felt bad for him.. but that play was a dumb, dumb move.. no excuse whatsoever.. He epitomizes a lot what is wrong with this team tho.. not all, but a lot..

Really? I get that that was a horrible play but I think he has played well as a Knick. I don't see him as 'epitomizing what is wrong with this team'. I am not sure why anyone would say that about him. I would put Bargs play in with the positives so far this season.

agree 100% bargs has been one of the few bright spots this year, as i said earlier and to get on him because of one play is silly to me. in no way, does he epitomize anything negative about this team.

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tkf
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12/20/2013  11:19 AM
nyk4ever wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
tkf wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:dude, for all the good bargnani has done this year, he's the last guy that should be getting ripped on. he made a bone-head mistake, but he should be at the bottom of the list on gripes with players.

i actually felt bad for him.. but that play was a dumb, dumb move.. no excuse whatsoever.. He epitomizes a lot what is wrong with this team tho.. not all, but a lot..

Really? I get that that was a horrible play but I think he has played well as a Knick. I don't see him as 'epitomizing what is wrong with this team'. I am not sure why anyone would say that about him. I would put Bargs play in with the positives so far this season.

agree 100% bargs has been one of the few bright spots this year, as i said earlier and to get on him because of one play is silly to me. in no way, does he epitomize anything negative about this team.

bright spot? boy have standards dipped around here... He hasn't been as bad as expected, but he hasn't been really good.. not sure how that is a bright spot...

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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12/20/2013  11:22 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/20/2013  11:23 AM
nixluva wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
tkf wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:dude, for all the good bargnani has done this year, he's the last guy that should be getting ripped on. he made a bone-head mistake, but he should be at the bottom of the list on gripes with players.

i actually felt bad for him.. but that play was a dumb, dumb move.. no excuse whatsoever.. He epitomizes a lot what is wrong with this team tho.. not all, but a lot..

Really? I get that that was a horrible play but I think he has played well as a Knick. I don't see him as 'epitomizing what is wrong with this team'. I am not sure why anyone would say that about him. I would put Bargs play in with the positives so far this season.

Just imagine if we had a legit PG and we didn't rely on JR so much at SG? To me a HUGE part of the problem will be solved when we address those 2 issues. JR doesn't deserve the minutes he's getting. Even with his mistakes THJ has earned more minutes at SG IMO. Bargs is a flawed player but overall he's been good for this team. Woody brought Bargs off the bench and it didn't seem to bother his game. I don't see Bargs as a problem for this team.

and you know what, when I said this team needed a PG and a big man who plays in the paint,yet what did we see posted? you tube videos extolling the virtues of bargnani and how he was going to pull big men out of the paint.... That hasn't been the case, we got worse with bargnani on this team.. he is a low impact player.. he could score 100 points and i think the knicks would still lose as this guy is pretty BLAH as a ball player...

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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