LivingLegend wrote:

misterearl wrote:The Rookies

Oladipo finished with 26 points, 10 rebounds, 10 assists and three steals, shooting 8-of-18 from the field and 10-of-12 at the charity stripe. Yet he was still just No. 2 on this historic night at Wells Fargo Center. That's because Michael Carter-Williams joined him in the triple-double club with 27 points, 12 boards, 10 dimes and three steals while going 11-of-19 from the field and 4-of-7 at the stripe. - Bleacher Report

Where is our John Wall, Rajon Rondo, Kyrie Irving, Jrue Holiday, Tony Parker, Ty Lawson or Chris Paul?

We have no floor leadership.

NBA Guards are faster from baseline to baseline, quicker, and more versatile. They can score when needed and can be trusted when a game is on the line.

Where is Our Victor Oladipo?

Christ --- it has been so long since we've had a true - talented young pg (or any talented) pg to run out there -- such a travesty that the greatest city in the world and the MECCA for basketball has not had a talented PG since the days of Mark Jackson and Rod Strickland --- unless I'm forgetting someone.

PS -- not counting Lin because I don't view him in class with guys mentioned and I wouldn't have paid that contract either. Just my opinion.

Nalod wrote:Lin is a work in progress and not a savior.

BUt he fell in our lap and his good fortune became too expensive.

I think that is what the Knicks brass is afraid of good fortune.

NYKBocker wrote:

RonRon wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

misterearl wrote:The Rookies

Oladipo finished with 26 points, 10 rebounds, 10 assists and three steals, shooting 8-of-18 from the field and 10-of-12 at the charity stripe. Yet he was still just No. 2 on this historic night at Wells Fargo Center. That's because Michael Carter-Williams joined him in the triple-double club with 27 points, 12 boards, 10 dimes and three steals while going 11-of-19 from the field and 4-of-7 at the stripe. - Bleacher Report

Where is our John Wall, Rajon Rondo, Kyrie Irving, Jrue Holiday, Tony Parker, Ty Lawson or Chris Paul?

We have no floor leadership.

NBA Guards are faster from baseline to baseline, quicker, and more versatile. They can score when needed and can be trusted when a game is on the line.

Where is Our Victor Oladipo?

He is Jeremey Lin.....

He is Noah, he is Aldridge.........

He is the picks we trade away. He is Wilson, gallo and Mozzy, who are assets that could have been traded for picks.

He was traded for CapSpace....

The answerman is asking the wrong questions.

Exactly

we also had the opportunity to draft

Paul George
Hibbert

Chandler Parsons

Lance Stephenson *was a troubled immature clown that was patiently developed*

Draft picks you can't really cry too much about. The problem I have is that we had good yoots here that were promising. Plus, the basketball gods gave us a gift and our owner pissed it all away.

very true,at least we know what we had on hand with them...

LivingLegend wrote:
Christ --- it has been so long since we've had a true - talented young pg (or any talented) pg to run out there -- such a travesty that the greatest city in the world and the MECCA for basketball has not had a talented PG since the days of Mark Jackson and Rod Strickland --- unless I'm forgetting someone.

"It takes a certain amount of time for a guy to do that...if they haven’t been doing it that way their whole career," Cheeks said, via Shawn Windsor of the Detroit Free Press. "I don’t think it's just an overnight thing, I think Brandon is learning a little of that."

In other words, Cheeks doesn't think that Brandon Jennings is that player. Not yet, at least.

Jennings was more gunner than distributor during his first four NBA seasons. The lack of shooting threats has shrunken Detroit's offensive floor. The Pistons point guard needs to be a traffic director more than anything else, a job title that he's never held before. - Bleacher Report

LivingLegend - well said.

Never been a fan of Brandon Jennings, but compared to what we are running out on the court to lead, he would be The Golden Child in MSG.

I miss both Henry and Mike Bibby

raven wrote:

Vmart wrote:At what point do the Knicks realize that their PGs are all third stringers. There is a reason why Felton got beat out in Denver and Portland. There is reason why Beno has mostly been a back up. There is a reason why Pablo is a third stringer his age. At what point do you say we have go and give Murry a try. There is a good chance he may stick I guess that is the Knicks biggest fear that a player just might develop and stick.

I don't think that's the issue. Everybody knows, Knicks included, that the roster suck.

But what can they really do?
No picks, no cap space, bad contracts that are hard to trade... What ace do the Knicks have in their hands?

None.

Why?

Cause they used them all already, year after year to avoid taking a true dive and clean the mess.
Walsh started the cleaning process, but we would've needed another 2-3 years of draft stockpiling before making a major move for contention.

The Knicks went for it too quickly when they traded for Melo, spending all they had to get him... Like, buying a ferrari but being so broke you can't put any gas in it.

This is the sad stade of the Knicks. A slow motion crash that you can't avoid, cause the present is only a consequence from the past.

The Knicks did wrong yesterday and are paying for it today. Let's just hope they'll learn from it and that next time, they'll try to think about tomorrow.

If we start now by 2022 we might be contenders

raven wrote:

Vmart wrote:At what point do the Knicks realize that their PGs are all third stringers. There is a reason why Felton got beat out in Denver and Portland. There is reason why Beno has mostly been a back up. There is a reason why Pablo is a third stringer his age. At what point do you say we have go and give Murry a try. There is a good chance he may stick I guess that is the Knicks biggest fear that a player just might develop and stick.

I don't think that's the issue. Everybody knows, Knicks included, that the roster suck.

But what can they really do?
No picks, no cap space, bad contracts that are hard to trade... What ace do the Knicks have in their hands?

None.

Why?

Cause they used them all already, year after year to avoid taking a true dive and clean the mess.
Walsh started the cleaning process, but we would've needed another 2-3 years of draft stockpiling before making a major move for contention.

The Knicks went for it too quickly when they traded for Melo, spending all they had to get him... Like, buying a ferrari but being so broke you can't put any gas in it.

This is the sad stade of the Knicks. A slow motion crash that you can't avoid, cause the present is only a consequence from the past.

The Knicks did wrong yesterday and are paying for it today. Let's just hope they'll learn from it and that next time, they'll try to think about tomorrow.

knicks1248 wrote:Like Walsh the deal breaker for me was mosgov. .Gallo and chandler were not that important.

Gallo and chandler have been injury prone and there stock is not that high, we got melo and although I hate the is o's I would rather him than them.

Mozgov was perfect for New York. He was unassuming, an import and the fans celebrated his breakout game by chanting his name. He was also big.

We could use him now

Q. How do two starting guards go scoreless?

A. See thread title

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:

Vmart wrote:At what point do the Knicks realize that their PGs are all third stringers. There is a reason why Felton got beat out in Denver and Portland. There is reason why Beno has mostly been a back up. There is a reason why Pablo is a third stringer his age. At what point do you say we have go and give Murry a try. There is a good chance he may stick I guess that is the Knicks biggest fear that a player just might develop and stick.

Nice analysis.

In other words, the ball movement shown by the Knicks during their longest winning streak of the season — two — disappeared because, take your pick: Anthony reverted to old habits, or everyone else was awful, or the Knicks’ offense often breaks down when confronted with determined perimeter resistance. - Harvey Araton