EwingsGlass wrote:

jrodmc wrote:We trade Shump and the Sombers will have another early Christmas present to joyfully mitch over.
We give away another pick, too (unless we get Durant and LeQ in exchange) and it will be 1500 consecutive blow it up now threads, Dolan killed my puppy, Melo was jeaolous of Shump's celebrity, etc etc etc.

This board will become completely unreadable. For a Knick fan.

Is it such a bad thing to like a player that you already have instead of coveting other players? I think some of us are dying to see a young player develop. No one can promise that Shump will be a star. So many players don't pan out. I don't want to see Shump traded for a role player. I'd like to see him develop.

I think his injuries have affected him quite severely. He looks like a shell of what he was when he was a rookie. Right now hes not an NBA starter to start with.

BRIGGS wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

jrodmc wrote:We trade Shump and the Sombers will have another early Christmas present to joyfully mitch over.
We give away another pick, too (unless we get Durant and LeQ in exchange) and it will be 1500 consecutive blow it up now threads, Dolan killed my puppy, Melo was jeaolous of Shump's celebrity, etc etc etc.

This board will become completely unreadable. For a Knick fan.

Is it such a bad thing to like a player that you already have instead of coveting other players? I think some of us are dying to see a young player develop. No one can promise that Shump will be a star. So many players don't pan out. I don't want to see Shump traded for a role player. I'd like to see him develop.

I think his injuries have affected him quite severely. He looks like a shell of what he was when he was a rookie. Right now hes not an NBA starter to start with.

Briggs, you have an eye for talent, but there are times you are wrong
Sometimes you cannot use numbers to justify a players talent, and that can sometimes really hurt your evaluation of talent
Surprisingly you were one of the few here that believed Harden was not worth what Houston gave up for him....

The injury surely set Iman back greatly, along with a team NOT running, an ISO team, a team without a good PG/facilitator, and even when we let go of one of our better player development coaches that worked exclusively on Lin here

When all is said and done, Iman is not in the right place in terms of development/system/team mates, just like Trevor Ariza, Channing Frye, Jordan Hill, and many other players that have developed the second they left NYK
None of these players would have ever developed in NYK....

The only difference between Iman and these players above is, Iman has what it takes mentally with his toughness, BB IQ, ability to handle media, and work ethic
However, coming from the lock out year, and the injury, set him back 2 years, and with all these trade rumors it surely does not help him
Most importantly, we don't have the leadership/veterans that play the right way but instead have "veterans" and a "coach" that continues on philosophies that don't work on both ends
We do not value PLAYER DEVELOPMENT, plain and simple, and Iman plays out of position at SF most of the time at his best, while he needs to play next to a true PG that could penetrate/facilitate effectively, while playing at SG, with good ball movement, player movement, an uptempo system, picks on and off the ball, with high character IQ, and good rotation defenders, much like we did while Lin was here when he made his run known as "Linsanity"

Lin
Iman
Fields/JR
JJ/Novak
Chandler/JJ

The talent here was completely non not there but we played our BEST BB as a TEAM on both ends

I think many teams and GM's see his potential and value him much more than the Knick's currently do....