Not resigning Melo would be catastrophic. I know the grass is always greener but come on... the guy is talented

SupremeCommander wrote:just saying - not even Kobe could carry the Lakers when it was just him. Nash couldn't. Makes what Ewing did here by himself much more impressive.

Not resigning Melo would be catastrophic. I know the grass is always greener but come on... the guy is talented

PLEASE explain how that would be the case?

Bonn1997 wrote:

tkf wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:just saying - not even Kobe could carry the Lakers when it was just him. Nash couldn't. Makes what Ewing did here by himself much more impressive.

Not resigning Melo would be catastrophic. I know the grass is always greener but come on... the guy is talented

PLEASE explain how that would be the case?

because a lot of fans would be sad to lose a great PPG whore

LOL, that is the only thing I can see....

Swishfm3 wrote:

franco12 wrote:sorry, but MJ regularly passed to BJ Armstrong and Steve Kerr.

Yes, he had Pippen- and that made all the difference. But he doesn't even try to pass to these guys.

When I read comments like this on this board, I question how many games you people actually watch. Melo passes the ball plenty..does he miss to find the open player sometimes? of course..but its very easy for us, who are watching the game on TV at a 45-55 degree angle, to see the open player, or where the breakdown in the defense is, than it is when you're on the court. Anyone who actually plays or officiates sports, knows this.

dk7th wrote:his fatal mistake was allowing himself to be traded to the knicks instead of waiting to become a free agent. greed and stupidity and believing your own hype led him to this pass. he had a way to leverage his situation which at worst would have been a one year rental to a team he doesn't want to go to. at best he hamstrings the nuggets and goes freely to his desired destination while leaving the knicks somewhat intact and in a good situation to continue building a championship team.

he does not and should not get a pass. stop trying to put lipstick on a pig-- it's getting annoying

This is another one I love...Knick fans actually wanted Melo to leave money on the table. Who does that?? Dolan and Walsh were willing to give this man a MAX deal and FANS wanted Melo to say, "it's ok...I dont need that much". lol.

not so fast... dolan AND walsh? if that were the case there would have been no 11th hour meeting between dolan and anthony. dolan does not know the difference between price and value any more than anthony does. walsh, however, has made a living doing just that. so when you recall that walsh had said "players are good at one price and bad at another" please bear that in mind.

as much as i don't like his game, it would have been far more preferable had anthony come as a free agent even a year later. that would have given the players we traded another season of seasoning and an opportunity to do an upgrade at a position of need, namely point guard.

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:his fatal mistake was allowing himself to be traded to the knicks instead of waiting to become a free agent. greed and stupidity and believing your own hype led him to this pass. he had a way to leverage his situation which at worst would have been a one year rental to a team he doesn't want to go to. at best he hamstrings the nuggets and goes freely to his desired destination while leaving the knicks somewhat intact and in a good situation to continue building a championship team.

he does not and should not get a pass. stop trying to put lipstick on a pig-- it's getting annoying

speaking of annoying, sorry but this is garbage. First of all he's a player, and last I check they dont trade themselves. Second he was in a walk year in a year when the CBA was expiring. Getting a new deal under the old CBA wasnt stupid, it was smart. Its called life. Why not just call him greedy and stupid for not taking the mid level exception. Same posters spewing the same garbage while they dont even watch the games or cares what happens.

he had an opportunity to provide services at the price best suited to his actual value, which is clearly 13-15 million per year. but money comes before winning, ie price trumps value.

i can imagine a much better knick team in 2012-2013 and this year had he waited and been traded to a one year rental team... or screwed the nuggets by simply not getting any takers for the one year rental, or at least been able to leverage a much less costly trade.

but he is a very narrow-minded person and does not think about the big picture except through the lens of greenbacks.

Bonn1997 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

tkf wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:his fatal mistake was allowing himself to be traded to the knicks instead of waiting to become a free agent. greed and stupidity and believing your own hype led him to this pass. he had a way to leverage his situation which at worst would have been a one year rental to a team he doesn't want to go to. at best he hamstrings the nuggets and goes freely to his desired destination while leaving the knicks somewhat intact and in a good situation to continue building a championship team.

he does not and should not get a pass. stop trying to put lipstick on a pig-- it's getting annoying

speaking of annoying, sorry but this is garbage. First of all he's a player, and last I check they dont trade themselves. Second he was in a walk year in a year when the CBA was expiring. Getting a new deal under the old CBA wasnt stupid, it was smart. Its called life. Why not just call him greedy and stupid for not taking the mid level exception. Same posters spewing the same garbage while they dont even watch the games or cares what happens.

Fishmike--the more I think about it---Im not interested in giving Melo 30mm per year until he is 35. Hes got major miles on him--we cant afford to pay him that kind of loot. If hes willing to do 5 years 100mm 20 per that would be my max limit. As you can see we need the dollars to help build a team. Paying one guy not named Lebron or Durant a dollar more than 20mm is insane.

briggs 20 mil is more than paul george is getting, can you still justify that for a declining player in carmelo? 13-15 mil max is what he should be looking at, preferably on another team...

Carmelo Anthony has the NY Knicks by the cahones.

Only because the organization is clueless

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:his fatal mistake was allowing himself to be traded to the knicks instead of waiting to become a free agent. greed and stupidity and believing your own hype led him to this pass. he had a way to leverage his situation which at worst would have been a one year rental to a team he doesn't want to go to. at best he hamstrings the nuggets and goes freely to his desired destination while leaving the knicks somewhat intact and in a good situation to continue building a championship team.

he does not and should not get a pass. stop trying to put lipstick on a pig-- it's getting annoying

speaking of annoying, sorry but this is garbage. First of all he's a player, and last I check they dont trade themselves. Second he was in a walk year in a year when the CBA was expiring. Getting a new deal under the old CBA wasnt stupid, it was smart. Its called life. Why not just call him greedy and stupid for not taking the mid level exception. Same posters spewing the same garbage while they dont even watch the games or cares what happens.

he had an opportunity to provide services at the price best suited to his actual value, which is clearly 13-15 million per year. but money comes before winning, ie price trumps value.

i can imagine a much better knick team in 2012-2013 and this year had he waited and been traded to a one year rental team... or screwed the nuggets by simply not getting any takers for the one year rental, or at least been able to leverage a much less costly trade.

but he is a very narrow-minded person and does not think about the big picture except through the lens of greenbacks.

what planet are you from? Who are you to tell Melo not to take what someone is offering him? For who's benefit? Its idiotic. Exactly what I have come to expect from the quality of posting around here. Zero basis in reality. Once in the history of pro sports can I remember guys taking less to make the team better and thats Wade/Lebron/Bosh, and lets be fair about that.. they took less for EACH OTHER, not for the HEAT. Lebron wasnt taking less money to give the Heat a better chance to field a great team. He took less to play with his buddies Bosh and Wade.

If your going to regurgitate the same crap 40x a day in every thread at least be accurate about the situation.

they took less money so they could have the best opportunity to win titles. that they were buddies to begin with is purely secondary. they valued winning titles over making as much money as possible. they now have two titles because of their collective valuation of what it takes to win.

on my planet, having already made 58 million dollars and knowing that i can look forward to many many millions more dollars, and seeing my contemporaries taking less money to win... i would think about emulating them.

and finally, who is doing the offering here? you mean jim dolan? the guy who has two feet firmly planted on your planet... right?

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:his fatal mistake was allowing himself to be traded to the knicks instead of waiting to become a free agent. greed and stupidity and believing your own hype led him to this pass. he had a way to leverage his situation which at worst would have been a one year rental to a team he doesn't want to go to. at best he hamstrings the nuggets and goes freely to his desired destination while leaving the knicks somewhat intact and in a good situation to continue building a championship team.

he does not and should not get a pass. stop trying to put lipstick on a pig-- it's getting annoying

speaking of annoying, sorry but this is garbage. First of all he's a player, and last I check they dont trade themselves. Second he was in a walk year in a year when the CBA was expiring. Getting a new deal under the old CBA wasnt stupid, it was smart. Its called life. Why not just call him greedy and stupid for not taking the mid level exception. Same posters spewing the same garbage while they dont even watch the games or cares what happens.

he had an opportunity to provide services at the price best suited to his actual value, which is clearly 13-15 million per year. but money comes before winning, ie price trumps value.

i can imagine a much better knick team in 2012-2013 and this year had he waited and been traded to a one year rental team... or screwed the nuggets by simply not getting any takers for the one year rental, or at least been able to leverage a much less costly trade.

but he is a very narrow-minded person and does not think about the big picture except through the lens of greenbacks.

what planet are you from? Who are you to tell Melo not to take what someone is offering him? For who's benefit? Its idiotic. Exactly what I have come to expect from the quality of posting around here. Zero basis in reality. Once in the history of pro sports can I remember guys taking less to make the team better and thats Wade/Lebron/Bosh, and lets be fair about that.. they took less for EACH OTHER, not for the HEAT. Lebron wasnt taking less money to give the Heat a better chance to field a great team. He took less to play with his buddies Bosh and Wade.

If your going to regurgitate the same crap 40x a day in every thread at least be accurate about the situation.

they took less money so they could have the best opportunity to win titles. that they were buddies to begin with is purely secondary. they valued winning titles over making as much money as possible. they now have two titles because of their collective valuation of what it takes to win.

on my planet, having already made 58 million dollars and knowing that i can look forward to many many millions more dollars, and seeing my contemporaries taking less money to win... i would think about emulating them.

and finally, who is doing the offering here? you mean jim dolan? the guy who has two feet firmly planted on your planet... right?

two teams were willing to offer Melo an extension after the trade. LMAO at your idiotic comments about winning first and playing in Miami with their buddies second. Good one. Please post your proof. Or name ONE other scenario where a player left money on the table to help their team win. You wont find it.

Lipstick indeed.

if you are so certain of your point of view why don't you do a poll and see what other knick fans believe?

did they take less money (1) because they were friends, or (2) because they wanted to win titles?

i don't need a poll to tell me what the answer is so why don't you find out for yourself?

i double dare you!

fishmike wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:just saying - not even Kobe could carry the Lakers when it was just him. Nash couldn't. Makes what Ewing did here by himself much more impressive.

Not resigning Melo would be catastrophic. I know the grass is always greener but come on... the guy is talented

your wrong. Anyone can give you 30 points and 18 boards against the best team in the conference when your team is desperate for a win. Anyone can go out and jack enough shots to score 30 a night and with their team 54 wins.

Here's the part where Bonn and TFK ruin any possible discussion on this forum as they jerk each other off over a photo of Melo with DK and 3Gs feces wiped all over it. Go to it boys.

they could teach the Somali pirates a thing or two about hijacking