jrodmc wrote:JohnStarksFan wrote:jrodmc wrote:Hump and Wallace? I'd trade Stat for a sixteenth round NFL draft pick at this point, expiring contract or no.Pay half his salary, just get rid of his can't make a layup azz now. We've been kind and understanding for long enough.
Hate to call you out, but that's a fool's perspective. Wallace and Lee's deals are fully guaranteed until 2015/2016. Boston is looking to rebuild, and doing it the right way and keeping the fans engaged. In 2015/16, this deal would leave them with a team option for Jeff Green and 2 team options on Olynyck and Sullinger, and that's all. They are trying to handcuff us in the future for a short term patch up. Unless Rondo is involved, we can not take these contracts.
Explain to me from the wizened, afficianado's perspective exactly what we're getting out of Stat this season of any other? Were you someone who enjoyed the Eddy Curry debacle?
You're so sure tanking and lottery picks are the way to go to the Finals? That argument goes nowhere but in circles.
And exactly how is watching Stat missing open layups and sitting out half the season on IR "keeping the fans engaged"? Engaged in what, winning the salary cap metric fantasy league?
Well, first, we can't do what Boston is doing to rebuild and hold onto the fan base because we don't have 2 young big men PLUS multiple drafts picks in the next few years.
Second, it's not about what we are getting out of STAT. Without him last year we won 54 games. We made a huge mistake taking a flyer on a guy who would not be insured because of his knees. Think about that. When we signed him, the docs said his knees can not be insured. [ Edit ** - I liked bringing STAT here, and on some level I still have a lot of respect for him and hold out hope he can stay healthy. But reality starts to show itself rather quickly once he starts playing consistent minutes 
] If this team was winning, STAT wouldn't be complaining about minutes and the media wouldn't be blowing it up. They would be praising Woody and the team for playing it safe and bringing STAT into form slowly. The only reasons this is happening and he is being given the minutes he is asking for is 1) we need help in the front court to take some pressure off Melo, 2) probably to get him to show some great moves to showcase him in effort to move him (might be working).
I'm saying nothing about "tanking", as a matter of fact, that tanking BS will never work. Guys like Lebron, Kobe, MJ are so rare, that is a fool's game as well. What I'm saying, and what I've said, is you stay the course through next year. You do what you can with the team you have assembled, you allow guys stocks to rise and fall, you sell high if you can, and when the contracts come off the books you have set the wheels in motion to build anew. This is NOT tanking. (Not for nothing, the knicks can't "tank" without draft picks homie)
11/18/2013 9:58 AM