knickscity wrote:

tkf wrote:

knickscity wrote:

tkf wrote:lets beg denver to take carmelo back for gallo, chandler, moz and our 2014 pick... forget all the other picks, just this years pick..

and lets watch how quick they hang up the phone on us..

Tells you all you need to know how stupid this trade was...

all that garbage got their coach fired....

silly comment.... they won 57 games, karl left, they mutually parted ways..

but if you want to go there, this steaming pile of crap led by fatmelo got dantoni fired and about to get woody canned... LOL

So regular season games matter to you huh? they dont matter at all to me.

All i saw was multiple first round exits and yes Karl was fired, nothing was mutual about it outside of "get out".

for that team, it means something, they are building so anytime they can have a season like that, it is a plus.. knicks are a win now team, and we don't win now.. LOL..

check this picture.. Denver could afford to lose Karl? why? they are building towards a future... they have young players under contract, and plenty of picks.. for a team that is rebuilding, they are in great shape..

how are we looking?

tkf wrote:

knickscity wrote:

tkf wrote:

knickscity wrote:

tkf wrote:lets beg denver to take carmelo back for gallo, chandler, moz and our 2014 pick... forget all the other picks, just this years pick..

and lets watch how quick they hang up the phone on us..

Tells you all you need to know how stupid this trade was...

all that garbage got their coach fired....

silly comment.... they won 57 games, karl left, they mutually parted ways..

but if you want to go there, this steaming pile of crap led by fatmelo got dantoni fired and about to get woody canned... LOL

So regular season games matter to you huh? they dont matter at all to me.

All i saw was multiple first round exits and yes Karl was fired, nothing was mutual about it outside of "get out".

for that team, it means something, they are building so anytime they can have a season like that, it is a plus.. knicks are a win now team, and we don't win now.. LOL..

check this picture.. Denver could afford to lose Karl? why? they are building towards a future... they have young players under contract, and plenty of picks.. for a team that is rebuilding, they are in great shape..

how are we looking?

Now if they get one of those top players in next years draft then we'll talk, but maybe they dont since they traded one of their 2014 picks to Orlando, when they could have had two....for nothing but a Iggy rental...lol.

The Knicks are doing the same, just for different reasons.

tkf wrote:

knickscity wrote:

tkf wrote:

knickscity wrote:

tkf wrote:

knickscity wrote:

tkf wrote:lets beg denver to take carmelo back for gallo, chandler, moz and our 2014 pick... forget all the other picks, just this years pick..

and lets watch how quick they hang up the phone on us..

Tells you all you need to know how stupid this trade was...

all that garbage got their coach fired....

silly comment.... they won 57 games, karl left, they mutually parted ways..

but if you want to go there, this steaming pile of crap led by fatmelo got dantoni fired and about to get woody canned... LOL

So regular season games matter to you huh? they dont matter at all to me.

All i saw was multiple first round exits and yes Karl was fired, nothing was mutual about it outside of "get out".

for that team, it means something, they are building so anytime they can have a season like that, it is a plus.. knicks are a win now team, and we don't win now.. LOL..

check this picture.. Denver could afford to lose Karl? why? they are building towards a future... they have young players under contract, and plenty of picks.. for a team that is rebuilding, they are in great shape..

how are we looking?

Denver is sliding backwards man, you know it, I know it....say what you will but Denver is not in good shape.

Now if they get one of those top players in next years draft then we'll talk, but maybe they dont since they traded one of their 2014 picks to Orlando, when they could have had two....for nothing but a Iggy rental...lol.

The Knicks are doing the same, just for different reasons.

lol.. nah man, you aint selling that crap..denver isn't winning 57 games. so if you call that sliding backwards, then what do you call what we are doing?

Denver is where they want to be, they have young talent, picks, a new coach, and a potential lottery pick from us...

now tell me how is denver in bad shape... I gotta hear this.. LOL..

you can make this about denver all you want, that is just detracting from our mess.. denver has a better record than us.. so it is more of a possiblity of them getting our lottery pick than the magic getting a nuggets lottery pick....

smile, you are on candid camera,

But they very well could be Bobcats East.

I didnt bring up Denver though....you did....and no one is begging for their talent, folks running away from there.

Think Iggy misses Denver nope.....took less money to walk away to a much better team.

CrushAlot wrote:

tkf wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

tkf wrote:lets beg denver to take carmelo back for gallo, chandler, moz and our 2014 pick... forget all the other picks, just this years pick..

and lets watch how quick they hang up the phone on us..

Tells you all you need to know how stupid this trade was...

Only because they know that would get messy. If it was Melos equivalent they accept that deal in a second. We would be crazy to take long term contracts of that value for role players. A majority of people as well as the team still makes that trade over again without hesitation. Only those who don't like Melo personally don't.

no!!! walsh didn't want to make the trade.. people with a basketball brain understand you don't make this trade....

If it was Melos equivalent they accept that deal in a second.

what the heck does that mean?

Listen, the trade was horrible.... only the knicks make trades like this, the same way they traded picks to get a 40 year old broken down camby.. tell me, who the hell trades picks to get a 40 year old player? then the bargnani trade.... I will say this.. all of those trades i doubt any other team in the history of the NBA would make.. especially the god awful carmelo trade..LOL

Walsh was posturing and trying to make this trade the entire season that year. He paused when Ujiri wanted Moz and Dolan pushed it through.

that is not what happened. unless you can back it up with primary sources it is conjecture based on your idiosyncratic insights into human affairs.

knickscity wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

tkf wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

tkf wrote:lets beg denver to take carmelo back for gallo, chandler, moz and our 2014 pick... forget all the other picks, just this years pick..

and lets watch how quick they hang up the phone on us..

Tells you all you need to know how stupid this trade was...

Only because they know that would get messy. If it was Melos equivalent they accept that deal in a second. We would be crazy to take long term contracts of that value for role players. A majority of people as well as the team still makes that trade over again without hesitation. Only those who don't like Melo personally don't.

no!!! walsh didn't want to make the trade.. people with a basketball brain understand you don't make this trade....

If it was Melos equivalent they accept that deal in a second.

what the heck does that mean?

Listen, the trade was horrible.... only the knicks make trades like this, the same way they traded picks to get a 40 year old broken down camby.. tell me, who the hell trades picks to get a 40 year old player? then the bargnani trade.... I will say this.. all of those trades i doubt any other team in the history of the NBA would make.. especially the god awful carmelo trade..LOL

Walsh was posturing and trying to make this trade the entire season that year. He paused when Ujiri wanted Moz and Dolan pushed it through.

Walsh stood his ground, I seriously doubt he makes the deal, and seeing how things play out we might have ended up with fat, bad ankle and a well documented coach killer in deron williams.

If anyone thinks this team is bad now imagine bad knees and bad ankles being your 100 mil players.

Who was the first pick in 2012? Dont matter, Walsh traded that away to Houston....lol.

CrushAlot wrote:

knickscity wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

tkf wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

tkf wrote:lets beg denver to take carmelo back for gallo, chandler, moz and our 2014 pick... forget all the other picks, just this years pick..

and lets watch how quick they hang up the phone on us..

Tells you all you need to know how stupid this trade was...

Only because they know that would get messy. If it was Melos equivalent they accept that deal in a second. We would be crazy to take long term contracts of that value for role players. A majority of people as well as the team still makes that trade over again without hesitation. Only those who don't like Melo personally don't.

no!!! walsh didn't want to make the trade.. people with a basketball brain understand you don't make this trade....

If it was Melos equivalent they accept that deal in a second.

what the heck does that mean?

Listen, the trade was horrible.... only the knicks make trades like this, the same way they traded picks to get a 40 year old broken down camby.. tell me, who the hell trades picks to get a 40 year old player? then the bargnani trade.... I will say this.. all of those trades i doubt any other team in the history of the NBA would make.. especially the god awful carmelo trade..LOL

Walsh was posturing and trying to make this trade the entire season that year. He paused when Ujiri wanted Moz and Dolan pushed it through.

Walsh stood his ground, I seriously doubt he makes the deal, and seeing how things play out we might have ended up with fat, bad ankle and a well documented coach killer in deron williams.

If anyone thinks this team is bad now imagine bad knees and bad ankles being your 100 mil players.

Who was the first pick in 2012? Dont matter, Walsh traded that away to Houston....lol.

Walsh got hosed in every deal he made as the Knick gm. Why wouldn't Denver expect the same treatment. The word at the time about DWill was that King had connections with the Jazz and got the inside track on that deal.

I definitely agree on Walsh, dude was terrible......like comparing a mass murderer to a wife beater.

tkf wrote:

knickscity wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

knickscity wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

tkf wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

tkf wrote:lets beg denver to take carmelo back for gallo, chandler, moz and our 2014 pick... forget all the other picks, just this years pick..

and lets watch how quick they hang up the phone on us..

Tells you all you need to know how stupid this trade was...

Only because they know that would get messy. If it was Melos equivalent they accept that deal in a second. We would be crazy to take long term contracts of that value for role players. A majority of people as well as the team still makes that trade over again without hesitation. Only those who don't like Melo personally don't.

no!!! walsh didn't want to make the trade.. people with a basketball brain understand you don't make this trade....

If it was Melos equivalent they accept that deal in a second.

what the heck does that mean?

Listen, the trade was horrible.... only the knicks make trades like this, the same way they traded picks to get a 40 year old broken down camby.. tell me, who the hell trades picks to get a 40 year old player? then the bargnani trade.... I will say this.. all of those trades i doubt any other team in the history of the NBA would make.. especially the god awful carmelo trade..LOL

Walsh was posturing and trying to make this trade the entire season that year. He paused when Ujiri wanted Moz and Dolan pushed it through.

Walsh stood his ground, I seriously doubt he makes the deal, and seeing how things play out we might have ended up with fat, bad ankle and a well documented coach killer in deron williams.

If anyone thinks this team is bad now imagine bad knees and bad ankles being your 100 mil players.

Who was the first pick in 2012? Dont matter, Walsh traded that away to Houston....lol.

Walsh got hosed in every deal he made as the Knick gm. Why wouldn't Denver expect the same treatment. The word at the time about DWill was that King had connections with the Jazz and got the inside track on that deal.

I've read that, and I'm personally glad he had that inside track.

I definitely agree on Walsh, dude was terrible......like comparing a mass murderer to a wife beater.

lol, you can tell a complete implosion is near, now the fans are blaming walsh.... more detraction from the truth..

But yeah, I wonder hwo the Knicks could have better spent 100 mil on a player for one season....and all the good coaches we passed up on.

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

tkf wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

tkf wrote:lets beg denver to take carmelo back for gallo, chandler, moz and our 2014 pick... forget all the other picks, just this years pick..

and lets watch how quick they hang up the phone on us..

Tells you all you need to know how stupid this trade was...

Only because they know that would get messy. If it was Melos equivalent they accept that deal in a second. We would be crazy to take long term contracts of that value for role players. A majority of people as well as the team still makes that trade over again without hesitation. Only those who don't like Melo personally don't.

no!!! walsh didn't want to make the trade.. people with a basketball brain understand you don't make this trade....

If it was Melos equivalent they accept that deal in a second.

what the heck does that mean?

Listen, the trade was horrible.... only the knicks make trades like this, the same way they traded picks to get a 40 year old broken down camby.. tell me, who the hell trades picks to get a 40 year old player? then the bargnani trade.... I will say this.. all of those trades i doubt any other team in the history of the NBA would make.. especially the god awful carmelo trade..LOL

Walsh was posturing and trying to make this trade the entire season that year. He paused when Ujiri wanted Moz and Dolan pushed it through.

that is not what happened. unless you can back it up with primary sources it is conjecture based on your idiosyncratic insights into human affairs.

What happened?

you made a claim-- now back it up.

tkf wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

tkf wrote:

knickscity wrote:

tkf wrote:lets beg denver to take carmelo back for gallo, chandler, moz and our 2014 pick... forget all the other picks, just this years pick..

and lets watch how quick they hang up the phone on us..

Tells you all you need to know how stupid this trade was...

all that garbage got their coach fired....

silly comment.... they won 57 games, karl left, they mutually parted ways..

but if you want to go there, this steaming pile of crap led by fatmelo got dantoni fired and about to get woody canned... LOL

If you are watching games you will realize how incorrect you are about Melo causing woodys job. You are so anti Melo it makes your comments seem silly.

you are so pro melo it makes your comments seem.. ridiculous..

see how easy that is?

carmelo and the carmelo trade sunk this franchise... I hope you and the rest of his fans are happy... worst trade in history possible..

when denver marches up to potentially take a top 10 pick, I want you to remember this thread.. and oh, we still have 2016 with the silly bargnani trade... it just never ends..

Don't think of me as pro Melo, think of me as anti rebuild. Can't be done in ny. History of drafting sweetney, frye, gallo, hill etc proves we haven't made great drafting decisions when going that route. History says a team led by Melo gets to the playoffs every year. I believe in at least giving ourselves a chance because you never know what can happen (see Dallas.) Rebuild doesn't do that. Maybe give me another option but trading Melo for trash or draft picks is never the answer and thankfully won't happen.

Bonn1997 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

tkf wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

tkf wrote:

knickscity wrote:

tkf wrote:lets beg denver to take carmelo back for gallo, chandler, moz and our 2014 pick... forget all the other picks, just this years pick..

and lets watch how quick they hang up the phone on us..

Tells you all you need to know how stupid this trade was...

all that garbage got their coach fired....

silly comment.... they won 57 games, karl left, they mutually parted ways..

but if you want to go there, this steaming pile of crap led by fatmelo got dantoni fired and about to get woody canned... LOL

If you are watching games you will realize how incorrect you are about Melo causing woodys job. You are so anti Melo it makes your comments seem silly.

you are so pro melo it makes your comments seem.. ridiculous..

see how easy that is?

carmelo and the carmelo trade sunk this franchise... I hope you and the rest of his fans are happy... worst trade in history possible..

when denver marches up to potentially take a top 10 pick, I want you to remember this thread.. and oh, we still have 2016 with the silly bargnani trade... it just never ends..

Don't think of me as pro Melo, think of me as anti rebuild. Can't be done in ny. History of drafting sweetney, frye, gallo, hill etc proves we haven't made great drafting decisions when going that route. History says a team led by Melo gets to the playoffs every year. I believe in at least giving ourselves a chance because you never know what can happen (see Dallas.) Rebuild doesn't do that. Maybe give me another option but trading Melo for trash or draft picks is never the answer and thankfully won't happen.

There's a much bigger sample of seasons of starphucking not working in NY than of rebuilding not working in NY.

We have not had a player like Melo since Ewing so it depends on what you consider starphucking. Curry, Randolph, Francis, and Marbury aren't Melo.