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RonRon
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11/17/2013  12:11 PM
Woodson's combination of stubborn decision in all area's are catching up with him, like Dantoni, the players see his flaws that don't work but he still believes in it....
We need change, although it isn't fair to place it all on Woody, we did not address the positions in a quality PG and backup PG, a legit SF, and a legit quality C, with a younger PF/C that can defend at high level that compliments the C while not being a OFF liability

fake barks/stare downs for blaming assignments when his rotations demand constant HELP/ROTATIONS while we lack speed and quality 1v1 DEFENDERS to do so (his best effort and defender in Iman who was one of Woodson's favorites and does everything to sacrifice for the better of the team is now on Woodson's SH!# LIST cause he is siding with James Dolan

poor philosophy on DEF and lack of OFF (ball movement without a purpose is absolutely USELESS

favoritism of certain players (Melo, JR, Felton, Chandler, Pablo) while being much tougher on other players, losing "credibility" and "accountability"

poor rotations and lineups that don't fit together, on OFF and/or DEF *like playing AB at PF, only Kmart fits with him, and on OFF only Melo fits as PF but with AB/Melo we will be horrible DEF and REB lineup*

lack of adjustments/creativity *instead of letting JR build his NBA game shape and get his legs back, letting handing him the starting job*

He has loss the team and we should just end his misery with our misery and accept that we made many mistakes with the way we built this roster

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11/17/2013  12:13 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
JohnStarksFan wrote:
Vmart wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I don't see that solving anything. My guess is Herb takes over for the rest of the season and I think that would be a disaster. Judging Woodson on this mess isn't totally fair. He doesn't have Tyson and JR is just back from injury. A lot of what is going on with team is out of his control. Firing Woodson at this point is just trying to find a scapegoat for injuries, poor play and bad management.

Herb? No way man. Got to go outside the organization on this one. Scott Skiles, Del Negro, Byron Scott, SVG. Someone who will bring a new brand of basketball, that uses perpetual motion execution offense.

You forgot Lionel Hollins dude.

In my opinion SVG and Skiles are the only good coaches on that list. Again, guys don't take jobs midseason other than D'Antoni. Knicks go with interim if Woodson is out. Ask yourself if you want things to get better or if you think Herb is the answer?

I definitely think you're wrong about Hollins, but with that in mind, you are right. None of these coaches will take the job if Woody is clocked. So the "Fire Woodson" nonsense isn't coming from us, just from bonehead seat-fillers.

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11/17/2013  12:15 PM
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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11/17/2013  12:33 PM
Funny I said the same thing not too long ago and there were signs of it last year but our hot shooting saved us.

"Where is this evidence that Woody has lost the team?"

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11/17/2013  12:39 PM
And if Woody gets the boot, Todd and Walker might walk too? And that leaves Herb Williams, who's been an assistant for 11 + years now, mostly terrible seasons. How has this guy kept his job through all these coaching problems? Doesn't he deserves some of the blame for being an assistant on a team that has a 42% winning percentage with him as an assistant or head coach (inflated from last season)?
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11/17/2013  12:44 PM
JohnStarksFan wrote:And if Woody gets the boot, Todd and Walker might walk too? And that leaves Herb Williams, who's been an assistant for 11 + years now, mostly terrible seasons. How has this guy kept his job through all these coaching problems? Doesn't he deserves some of the blame for being an assistant on a team that has a 42% winning percentage with him as an assistant or head coach (inflated from last season)?

I think every Knicks fan has wondered this but Herb probably has no role but to throw the basket balls out in practice.

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11/17/2013  1:12 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
JohnStarksFan wrote:
Vmart wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I don't see that solving anything. My guess is Herb takes over for the rest of the season and I think that would be a disaster. Judging Woodson on this mess isn't totally fair. He doesn't have Tyson and JR is just back from injury. A lot of what is going on with team is out of his control. Firing Woodson at this point is just trying to find a scapegoat for injuries, poor play and bad management.

Herb? No way man. Got to go outside the organization on this one. Scott Skiles, Del Negro, Byron Scott, SVG. Someone who will bring a new brand of basketball, that uses perpetual motion execution offense.

You forgot Lionel Hollins dude.

In my opinion SVG and Skiles are the only good coaches on that list. Again, guys don't take jobs midseason other than D'Antoni. Knicks go with interim if Woodson is out. Ask yourself if you want things to get better or if you think Herb is the answer?

Here's my issue with the fire Woody posters: Do you really think Dolan will hire a coach with any gravitas? All he cares about is loyalty and control- he wouldn't hire SVG because SVG speaks his mind. Loyalty and control is more important to Dolan than winning. They won't hire anyone who's smart because anyone who's smart would tell Dolan where to get off. All the good coaches know Dolan is an ass, and they won't want to work for him.

Next coach hire will be chosen based on their ability to be loyal and compiant, approval of melo and their ability to attract FA's (so that means no Skiles).

Lower your expectations.

Put Woody out of his misery

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