Cartman718 wrote:the more appropriate chant is... FIRE Woodson, clap, clap, clap-clap-clap.
Under a real coach, this kid would blossom. Woodson is using him as a pawn to save his job.

How is Woodson using Shump?

newyorknewyork wrote:Jr Smith screwed us in the playoffs yes. But lets also not forget that he took less money 3 seasons in a row and was one of the key reasons we had a successful season last yr. The signing of his younger brother is nonsense though.

Coaches get on young players all the time because they want them to reach there potential. Shumpert had max opportunity to be aggressive and shine when Jr Smith was out and Bargnani was coming on slow. If Shumpert is the player we want him to be he has to take opportunities like that and run with it to the point where he forces himself to be a #2 or #3 option.

Hardaway Jr puts up 7 shot attempts every 17mins. Shumpert puts up 7 shot attempts every 30mins. MWP puts up 9 shot attempts in 24mins, Jr Smith puts up 12 in 30, Felton puts up 12 in 35.

Shump hasn't shot a free throw attempt in 2 games and has no free throw attempts 5 out of the 8 games.

I think it's becoming clearer we'd have to do the Shump-Faried trade if it's still on the table and we could do it without a 1st round pick. Or even if we could just give them a 2nd round pick. But I assume they have no interest in that.

newyorknewyork wrote:Jr Smith screwed us in the playoffs yes. But lets also not forget that he took less money 3 seasons in a row and was one of the key reasons we had a successful season last yr. The signing of his younger brother is nonsense though.

Coaches get on young players all the time because they want them to reach there potential. Shumpert had max opportunity to be aggressive and shine when Jr Smith was out and Bargnani was coming on slow. If Shumpert is the player we want him to be he has to take opportunities like that and run with it to the point where he forces himself to be a #2 or #3 option.

Hardaway Jr puts up 7 shot attempts every 17mins. Shumpert puts up 7 shot attempts every 30mins. MWP puts up 9 shot attempts in 24mins, Jr Smith puts up 12 in 30, Felton puts up 12 in 35.

Shump hasn't shot a free throw attempt in 2 games and has no free throw attempts 5 out of the 8 games.

Agreed....Its understood that JR has image problems, but lets not forget, when Melo went down with injury, he carried us for long stretches of the season and we do not with the atlantic division with out JR. Shump seems to be the same player he was in his rookie year. His jumper may have improved slightly, but he still puts his head down and drives to the paint without a plan. Leaves his feet, with nowhere to go....Lets not put all the blame on the organization for him not improving his game much....

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:Jr Smith screwed us in the playoffs yes. But lets also not forget that he took less money 3 seasons in a row and was one of the key reasons we had a successful season last yr. The signing of his younger brother is nonsense though.

Coaches get on young players all the time because they want them to reach there potential. Shumpert had max opportunity to be aggressive and shine when Jr Smith was out and Bargnani was coming on slow. If Shumpert is the player we want him to be he has to take opportunities like that and run with it to the point where he forces himself to be a #2 or #3 option.

Hardaway Jr puts up 7 shot attempts every 17mins. Shumpert puts up 7 shot attempts every 30mins. MWP puts up 9 shot attempts in 24mins, Jr Smith puts up 12 in 30, Felton puts up 12 in 35.

Shump hasn't shot a free throw attempt in 2 games and has no free throw attempts 5 out of the 8 games.

I think it's becoming clearer we'd have to do the Shump-Faried trade if it's still on the table and we could do it without a 1st round pick. Or even if we could just give them a 2nd round pick. But I assume they have no interest in that.

If you have to give up more then Shump then it isn't worth it.

How about Shumpert to SAC-TOWN for ISAIAH THOMAS

They have an aging sg in John Salmons at 33 yrs of age

Jason Thompson he's from Jersey maybe that could be a trade for Shump Too, only 27 yrs old

CrushAlot wrote:

playa2 wrote:Being a member of the Knicks devalues Iman Shumpert from the Knicks standpoint. Everyone knows the Knicks are desparate for a trade.

How about Shumpert to SAC-TOWN for ISAIAH THOMAS

They have an aging sg in John Salmons at 33 yrs of age

Jason Thompson he's from Jersey maybe that could be a trade for Shump Too, only 27 yrs old

I have always liked Thompson. Not sure why he is erratic with minutes and numbers. Some names mentioned in the point guard thread to consider, Dragic, Lowry, Reggie Jackson... I know there were some others that I liked. The problem with Shump is that he is on a rookie contract and some of the guys that might be available have bigger deals. Other than Felton and JR, the Knicks contracts are either obscene or league mini type deals so getting something to work with a guy not on a rookie deal will be hard.

smackeddog wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:Jr Smith screwed us in the playoffs yes. But lets also not forget that he took less money 3 seasons in a row and was one of the key reasons we had a successful season last yr. The signing of his younger brother is nonsense though.

Coaches get on young players all the time because they want them to reach there potential. Shumpert had max opportunity to be aggressive and shine when Jr Smith was out and Bargnani was coming on slow. If Shumpert is the player we want him to be he has to take opportunities like that and run with it to the point where he forces himself to be a #2 or #3 option.

Hardaway Jr puts up 7 shot attempts every 17mins. Shumpert puts up 7 shot attempts every 30mins. MWP puts up 9 shot attempts in 24mins, Jr Smith puts up 12 in 30, Felton puts up 12 in 35.

Shump hasn't shot a free throw attempt in 2 games and has no free throw attempts 5 out of the 8 games.

I think it's becoming clearer we'd have to do the Shump-Faried trade if it's still on the table and we could do it without a 1st round pick. Or even if we could just give them a 2nd round pick. But I assume they have no interest in that.

Don't let Denvers posturing fool you. They've invested a lot of money in McGee and Hickson. Having Hickson and Faried makes no sense for them. Faried was drafted later than Shump- at worst they are of equal value, at best Shump has more upside. This nonsense that Faried is worth Shump AND a pick is utter crap!

You're comparing a guy who really doesn't contribute much to a player who will give you 16 and 12 if given starter's minutes.

Bonn1997 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:Jr Smith screwed us in the playoffs yes. But lets also not forget that he took less money 3 seasons in a row and was one of the key reasons we had a successful season last yr. The signing of his younger brother is nonsense though.

Coaches get on young players all the time because they want them to reach there potential. Shumpert had max opportunity to be aggressive and shine when Jr Smith was out and Bargnani was coming on slow. If Shumpert is the player we want him to be he has to take opportunities like that and run with it to the point where he forces himself to be a #2 or #3 option.

Hardaway Jr puts up 7 shot attempts every 17mins. Shumpert puts up 7 shot attempts every 30mins. MWP puts up 9 shot attempts in 24mins, Jr Smith puts up 12 in 30, Felton puts up 12 in 35.

Shump hasn't shot a free throw attempt in 2 games and has no free throw attempts 5 out of the 8 games.

I think it's becoming clearer we'd have to do the Shump-Faried trade if it's still on the table and we could do it without a 1st round pick. Or even if we could just give them a 2nd round pick. But I assume they have no interest in that.

Don't let Denvers posturing fool you. They've invested a lot of money in McGee and Hickson. Having Hickson and Faried makes no sense for them. Faried was drafted later than Shump- at worst they are of equal value, at best Shump has more upside. This nonsense that Faried is worth Shump AND a pick is utter crap!

You're comparing a guy who really doesn't contribute much to a player who will give you 16 and 12 if given starter's minutes.