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11/5/2013  11:37 PM
nixluva wrote:
knickscity wrote:
Nalod wrote:Who is the Mystical coach that does better?

Anyone with a playbook for starters.

but I do feel bad for Woody.

He's gonna get canned with a worse roster than he had last year.

Woody isn't getting canned. His security blanket is coming this weekend. Things will get back to normal once Woody has his other ISO King. I also get the idea that Woody might go back to the small lineup. It's highly doubtful that this poor play will continue much longer once he has JR back and sooner or later Melo will get hot and there you go. still won't change the fact that Woodson is not a great coach.

I wish i can be as optimistic as you, but unless he changes his offensive approach entirely, were 42-40

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11/5/2013  11:42 PM
nixluva wrote:
knickscity wrote:
Nalod wrote:Who is the Mystical coach that does better?

Anyone with a playbook for starters.

but I do feel bad for Woody.

He's gonna get canned with a worse roster than he had last year.

Woody isn't getting canned. His security blanket is coming this weekend. Things will get back to normal once Woody has his other ISO King. I also get the idea that Woody might go back to the small lineup. It's highly doubtful that this poor play will continue much longer once he has JR back and sooner or later Melo will get hot and there you go. still won't change the fact that Woodson is not a great coach.


Lots of weak coaches look better with better players.

Thibbs dont win 62 games without Derrick Rose.

Spoelstra could crack 50 wins with a prime wade, but looks great with lebron.

This team is garbage.

JR wont save him.
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11/6/2013  3:35 AM
knickscity wrote:
nixluva wrote:
knickscity wrote:
Nalod wrote:Who is the Mystical coach that does better?

Anyone with a playbook for starters.

but I do feel bad for Woody.

He's gonna get canned with a worse roster than he had last year.

Woody isn't getting canned. His security blanket is coming this weekend. Things will get back to normal once Woody has his other ISO King. I also get the idea that Woody might go back to the small lineup. It's highly doubtful that this poor play will continue much longer once he has JR back and sooner or later Melo will get hot and there you go. still won't change the fact that Woodson is not a great coach.


Lots of weak coaches look better with better players.

Thibbs dont win 62 games without Derrick Rose.

Spoelstra could crack 50 wins with a prime wade, but looks great with lebron.

This team is garbage.

JR wont save him.

It's not just JR, but once Felton and Melo start shooting at their career avg's that will make a huge difference. Not to mention the whole team developing more chemistry with the new pieces. Right now Felton and Melo are vastly underperforming and I doubt that this will be the case all year. Just look at how bad Melo and Felton are playing so far. It's not likely that they won't play better than this as some point.


Player	G  GS  MPG   FG%    3p%    FT%   OFF  DEF  TOT  APG  SPG  BPG  TO   PF   PPG
Carmelo	4  4   42.0  0.371  0.300  0.885 2.00 7.50 9.50	3.0  2.25 0.50 3.50 2.25 23.8
Felton	4  4   36.5  0.396  0.214  0.889 1.30 2.00 3.30	5.8  2.00 0.75 2.50 2.25 13.3
Iman 	4  4   29.3  0.457  0.333  0.923 0.80 3.80 4.50	1.3  1.50 0.25 1.50 3.75 12.3
Metta 	4  0   23.0  0.463  0.375  0.750 0.50 3.50 4.00	0.5  1.75 0.50 1.00 2.50 11.8
Andrea 	4  3   21.0  0.484  0.333  1.000 0.80 1.30 2.00	0.5  0.50 0.00 2.50 2.00 8.8
Tyson   4  4   26.8  0.600  0.000  0.714 3.80 5.30 9.00	1.3  1.00 2.50 1.75 2.50 7.3
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11/6/2013  4:07 AM
Mike Woodson was and still is a terrible head coach. Too bad some members here felt the need to defend him like he was Phil Jackson.
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11/6/2013  5:41 AM
JamesKPolk wrote:Mike Woodson was and still is a terrible head coach. Too bad some members here felt the need to defend him like he was Phil Jackson.

It's not our fault he's the coach lol
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11/6/2013  10:44 AM
What coach is going to want to coach this mess? We are going to have to settle for another crappy coach. It's like running on a treadmill with this team
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11/6/2013  11:00 AM
Woody gets canned either during this season or just after it. For those that want that, who exactly out there is an upgrade at this point?
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11/6/2013  11:04 AM
smackeddog wrote:Woody gets canned either during this season or just after it. For those that want that, who exactly out there is an upgrade at this point?

I'd take Sloan or Hollins in a heartbeat.
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11/6/2013  11:06 AM
smackeddog wrote:Woody gets canned either during this season or just after it. For those that want that, who exactly out there is an upgrade at this point?

I like Phil Jackson, Scott Skiles, Scott just to name a few.
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11/6/2013  11:09 AM
Vmart wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Woody gets canned either during this season or just after it. For those that want that, who exactly out there is an upgrade at this point?

I like Phil Jackson, Scott Skiles, Scott just to name a few.

Phil jackson doesn't seem to have the health any more (he's older than he looks). No way in hell we get Scott Skiles- players hate him after a year or two- no way we get such an unpopular coach heading into the FA of 2015. Byron Scott's rep is he's a players coach who doesn't really do enough prep etc. Don't see how he's better than Woody.
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11/6/2013  11:12 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Woody gets canned either during this season or just after it. For those that want that, who exactly out there is an upgrade at this point?

I'd take Sloan or Hollins in a heartbeat.

I like Sloan a lot, but didn't he say he feels he can't connect with todays player? Hollins is a nice old school coach, but is he an upgrade.

I suppose do people feel:

We are an awful or flawed team, in which case what the heck is Woody meant to do- how does changing coach help things?

or

We are a great team that is under performing. In which case, fire away!
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11/6/2013  11:13 AM
Only acceptable options are Hollins, Jackson or the Van Gundy brothers in my opinion.
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11/6/2013  11:14 AM
No one mentioning SVG?! Ha ha, 'the master of panic' + the new york media + the Knick fan base = marriage made in heaven!
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11/6/2013  11:16 AM
smackeddog wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Woody gets canned either during this season or just after it. For those that want that, who exactly out there is an upgrade at this point?

I'd take Sloan or Hollins in a heartbeat.

I like Sloan a lot, but didn't he say he feels he can't connect with todays player? Hollins is a nice old school coach, but is he an upgrade.

I suppose do people feel:

We are an awful or flawed team, in which case what the heck is Woody meant to do- how does changing coach help things?

or

We are a great team that is under performing. In which case, fire away!

Option C: We're a good team that shouldn't look outmatched by the Bobcats because our coach is an airhead. After watching the games I'm not convinced we're contenders anymore, but I think most people would agree that we shouldn't be 1-3 either.
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11/6/2013  11:17 AM
smackeddog wrote:No one mentioning SVG?! Ha ha, 'the master of panic' + the new york media + the Knick fan base = marriage made in heaven!

Say what you want about him, I feel he comes prepared to games and always knows his team well.
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11/6/2013  11:26 AM
Dagger wrote:
smackeddog wrote:No one mentioning SVG?! Ha ha, 'the master of panic' + the new york media + the Knick fan base = marriage made in heaven!

Say what you want about him, I feel he comes prepared to games and always knows his team well.

I do like him a lot, but I don't think he's a good fit with NY.
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11/6/2013  11:54 AM
Vmart wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Woody gets canned either during this season or just after it. For those that want that, who exactly out there is an upgrade at this point?

I like Phil Jackson, Scott Skiles, Scott just to name a few.

damn, Skiles, forgot about him. Would have him in a heartbeat.

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11/6/2013  12:39 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/6/2013  12:40 PM
gunsnewing wrote:What coach is going to want to coach this mess? We are going to have to settle for another crappy coach. It's like running on a treadmill with this team

The team being a mess is a direct reflection of the coach and a lack of leadership across the board.

The knicks play very well in spurts, then woodson makes a substitution that kills.

The only coach on the planet that would start a small line up and play half court basketball.

I recall very well that the hawks were a jump shooting team, that relied heavy on JJ and josh smith to create for themselves.

The guy was fired after a 53 win season and a 2nd round exit

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11/6/2013  12:46 PM
martin wrote:
Vmart wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Woody gets canned either during this season or just after it. For those that want that, who exactly out there is an upgrade at this point?

I like Phil Jackson, Scott Skiles, Scott just to name a few.

damn, Skiles, forgot about him. Would have him in a heartbeat.

Like I said, our next coach will be decided based on their ability to attract FAs in 2015 and their appeal to Melo, I think. Skiles tends to hate his players and be hated by them after about 2 seasons. I shudder to think of his relationship with JR!
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