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IronWillGiroud
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11/3/2013  11:51 AM
Man, I miss Lin :(
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11/3/2013  12:05 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/3/2013  12:07 PM
I had a few too many drinks when I was checking out box scores and posted this lol
IronWillGiroud
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11/3/2013  12:30 PM
gunsnewing wrote:I had a few too many drinks when I was checking out box scores and posted this lol

you dog, you!

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11/3/2013  12:37 PM
IronWillGiroud wrote:Man, I miss Lin :(

I don't miss DWill sending him to the burn unit!

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11/3/2013  12:40 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Is good.

Wasn't he a Knick?

We did this dance last year:

Lin had a good game "Oh, we should never have not signed him to an exuberant contract!"
Lin had a bad game "Lin is terrible, glad we didn't sign him to an exuberant contract!"

By the end of the season he was simply an average player who had good and bad games, with an exuberant contract.

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11/3/2013  12:46 PM
IronWillGiroud wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:I had a few too many drinks when I was checking out box scores and posted this lol

you dog, you!

You scallywag!

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11/3/2013  2:18 PM
smackeddog wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Is good.

Wasn't he a Knick?

We did this dance last year:

Lin had a good game "Oh, we should never have not signed him to an exuberant contract!"
Lin had a bad game "Lin is terrible, glad we didn't sign him to an exuberant contract!"

By the end of the season he was simply an average player who had good and bad games, with an exuberant contract.

One thing you can't look over, he was simply MAGICAL here. The most fun I had watching basketball ever and I know I'm not alone. I was on the edge of my chair. He just did something incredibly special.

So, when you look at his numbers in Houston - different team, different players, different energy of that City.

Lin was something special here and we "couldn't afford him" so we went and sign Camby, Kidd, etc. and now Bargs to crazy contracts. What a waste. What a lie from management.
The greatest thing to happen to the city in years is just let to walk and we blow all that money on the Geriatric bunch, or Bargs hoping he comes back to form.
Just so typical NY. Maybe he'll be back here at the end of his career like Artest...

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11/3/2013  2:26 PM
earthmansurfer wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Is good.

Wasn't he a Knick?

We did this dance last year:

Lin had a good game "Oh, we should never have not signed him to an exuberant contract!"
Lin had a bad game "Lin is terrible, glad we didn't sign him to an exuberant contract!"

By the end of the season he was simply an average player who had good and bad games, with an exuberant contract.

One thing you can't look over, he was simply MAGICAL here. The most fun I had watching basketball ever and I know I'm not alone. I was on the edge of my chair. He just did something incredibly special.

So, when you look at his numbers in Houston - different team, different players, different energy of that City.

Lin was something special here and we "couldn't afford him" so we went and sign Camby, Kidd, etc. and now Bargs to crazy contracts. What a waste. What a lie from management.
The greatest thing to happen to the city in years is just let to walk and we blow all that money on the Geriatric bunch, or Bargs hoping he comes back to form.
Just so typical NY. Maybe he'll be back here at the end of his career like Artest...

I loved that Linsanity stretch, but I also enjoyed the win streak at the end of that season that got us into the playoffs, and also the win streak at the end of last season too. Hopefully there will be enjoyable stretches this season too!

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11/5/2013  1:10 AM
"blow all that money on the Geriatric bunch, or Bargs hoping he comes back to form"

The upside to that is that I watch a lot of Golden State games now and, damn, they are fun to watch.

I was watching Lin for a bit tonight. Paul ran circles around him (sure, yes, Paul's tons better) but Lin has become a solid, IMO, PG. He seems misused somehow in Houston, even though he's certainly having a pretty good start to this year. He's actually pretty good at running a team and not just a solid individual player but Harden's clearly better and their skills over lap and McHale seems iffy letting him run the team. I dunno, maybe it will be a good thing if Lin over performs a bit than then gets traded this year. On the right team, with the right coach, he might develop into a solid mid-level star. I'd love to see him in LA.

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11/5/2013  8:18 AM
mismanagement of the Lin situation is why this team will never win. No commitment to talent. Only to becoming a playground for CAA donkees and JR's family.

The good thing about following the Knicks is you only have to wait like every 18 months for a new coach and new GM.

Who is employed by CAA that will be the next coach? What CAA players can we trade for?

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11/5/2013  8:21 AM
fishmike wrote:mismanagement of the Lin situation is why this team will never win. No commitment to talent. Only to becoming a playground for CAA donkees and JR's family.

The good thing about following the Knicks is you only have to wait like every 18 months for a new coach and new GM.

Who is employed by CAA that will be the next coach? What CAA players can we trade for?

Calipari is CAA, no?

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11/5/2013  8:59 AM
There was an old game on MSG a few weeks back when Lin was throwing lobs to Shumpert getting Amare and Tyson easy dunks, hitting guys for open 3's he must have had 15 dimes and you could see Melo getting uneasy because the building was bursting with energy and he wasn't shooting it whenever he wanted it.

Right now that's why this team isn't good and why they won't reach the heights they should. When Melo understands that he can get anything he want by driving and posting and not launching contested jump shots he usually shoots over 50% and gets 5 assists by default. But, Woodsen allows that ****, JR does the same thing. When this team was good last season, absent the standard Melo hot streak the ball was moving and everyone was invovled.

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11/5/2013  11:02 AM
Where was the thread discussing what stat would be higher - Lins turnovers per 36 min or Bargs rebounding? Can't find it now but it's funny Lin is at 3.4 TOs per 36 and Bargs is at 3.5 Rbs per 36.
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11/5/2013  11:05 AM
earthmansurfer wrote:
Nalod wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:He seems to be holding down the fort while the starter is out with sore ribs. I don't see him as a good fit with an offense that has a talent like Harden and I think you were smart to draft Beverly in Eny's league.n Do you think his good play entices a team to take on his contract? I like the idea of his playing a manu role for Houston if Morey doesn't move him. Morey and McHale seem to find away to emphasize players strengths. Playing Asik and Howard together is brilliant in my opinion. Rockets need to keep Asik.

You got it in for him don't yah?

His full handle is "CrushAlotwhoquestiontheKnicks"

I do think Lin would be much better served (stat wise) to be on a team that plays as a team. Perhaps Houston is that but Harden is such a ball dominant guy (ball hog).

I don't think so, they push the ball a lot and get a lot of posessions. Lin had 14/8 last night, not bad at all going against CP3... Harden will get his share of touches as he should since he is a shot maker and playmaker..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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11/5/2013  11:07 AM
guns has opened himself up to getting emails and texts every time Lin has a bad game. And this thread is going to be get bumped every time he turns the ball over more than 4 times.
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tkf
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11/5/2013  11:08 AM
MS wrote:Granted he would have been highly overpaid next seasons, it's interesting for all the spin our joke of a front office put on it, that they signed Novak to a bad deal and compounded it making the trade with the Raptors giving up a draft selection and bringing in a guy for close to the same salary they said they weren't willing to pay.

We still don't have a guy that attacks and gets folks easy shots. Would have been nice to see Lin and Felton man the point together and hold onto our picks. Because Shump and Hardaway were late selections and look to be nice pieces for this team.

I thought a lin/shumpert backcourt was a good fit... both pretty big guards, athletic, attacked the rim... heck you could even throw in THJ in that mix... lin in that dantoni offense got novak a lot of shots, I could see the same thing with THJ..

Just another bad move in a series of bad moves by this franchise.. It has taken its toll on me as a fan for sure..

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11/5/2013  11:08 AM
Clean wrote:
MS wrote:Granted he would have been highly overpaid next seasons, it's interesting for all the spin our joke of a front office put on it, that they signed Novak to a bad deal and compounded it making the trade with the Raptors giving up a draft selection and bringing in a guy for close to the same salary they said they weren't willing to pay.

We still don't have a guy that attacks and gets folks easy shots. Would have been nice to see Lin and Felton man the point together and hold onto our picks. Because Shump and Hardaway were late selections and look to be nice pieces for this team.

Did you not hear people say late picks are useless? It must be true since everyone keep saying it to justify the Bargs trade.

yea, LOL, I keep hearing how useless the late picks are, yet we constantly hear people big up THJ and shumpert.... go figure..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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11/5/2013  11:10 AM
Osiris wrote:
IronWillGiroud wrote:Man, I miss Lin :(

I don't miss DWill sending him to the burn unit!

I would trade one game like that for lin giving us 50+ good ones..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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11/5/2013  11:54 AM
MS wrote:There was an old game on MSG a few weeks back when Lin was throwing lobs to Shumpert getting Amare and Tyson easy dunks, hitting guys for open 3's he must have had 15 dimes and you could see Melo getting uneasy because the building was bursting with energy and he wasn't shooting it whenever he wanted it.

Right now that's why this team isn't good and why they won't reach the heights they should. When Melo understands that he can get anything he want by driving and posting and not launching contested jump shots he usually shoots over 50% and gets 5 assists by default. But, Woodsen allows that ****, JR does the same thing. When this team was good last season, absent the standard Melo hot streak the ball was moving and everyone was invovled.

You can blame the Knicks and CAA relationship....They see Melo as a long term financial investment for the team. With Lin on board, he was a big hit to Melo's stock value, which isn't good for CAA and Dollan. So over pay for Lin (who reduces Melo's value) or get rid of Lin and hope Melo increases his value, while continue to win....

It's a financial gamble to take, but these are the million dollar decisions they had to make. Lin was stupid to walk away, since he was going to get the same money anyway, with his market value and Knicks media attention. It's clear Melo is a hard player to build a championship around, at this stage of his career. He's not going to change until he's ready to retire and realize he still doesn't have a ring.....

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11/5/2013  12:00 PM
MS wrote:There was an old game on MSG a few weeks back when Lin was throwing lobs to Shumpert getting Amare and Tyson easy dunks, hitting guys for open 3's he must have had 15 dimes and you could see Melo getting uneasy because the building was bursting with energy and he wasn't shooting it whenever he wanted it.

Right now that's why this team isn't good and why they won't reach the heights they should. When Melo understands that he can get anything he want by driving and posting and not launching contested jump shots he usually shoots over 50% and gets 5 assists by default. But, Woodsen allows that ****, JR does the same thing. When this team was good last season, absent the standard Melo hot streak the ball was moving and everyone was invovled.

If Lin can't dominate the ball, his value drops. And with a star studded team like the knicks, it's hard to have a player like Lin dominate the ball, when you have 100 million dollar players around you as spot up shooters. It's really a complete mess, but Lin gave us an example of how you can build a team correctly, if you start with a solid PG and a solid Center to build around. Building around Melo who needs to dominate the ball to justisfy his Super Star contract, doesn't win championships....

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