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It is our new GM's duty to put Melo on the trade block
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Bonn1997
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10/23/2013  6:07 AM
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

The only way Melo leaves the Knicks is that they stink up the place this year. Bargani have not showed anything yet. and we have a lot of injuries.


In other words, they will only sell low
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dk7th
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10/23/2013  7:49 AM
Dagger wrote:
knickstorrents wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I think his job is to make trades to get help for Melo. Not sure why the Grunwald move happened but bringing in a guy from the era when players came and went at a high rate annually appears on the surface like the owner might like some player movement. There has never been any indication that Dolan isn't locked into Melo. Maybe something in his body language when he was playing softball with Melo in Puerto Rico this past summer?

this knucklehead had the help he needed here in new york just by waiting for free agency. and now he is demanding help. sickening

He was being traded because Ujiri wasn't going to let him walk for nothing. He wanted a new deal under the old cba because the owners were telling the players they were locking them out and reigning in free agency. Walsh wanted a second star and didn't want him going to NJ. Melo was being moved at the deadline. If the Knicks didn't trade for him he was going somewhere else. Ignoring the economic climate at the time, who the parties were involved in the deal and saying Melo could have waited and became a knick is just wrong. No way Ujiri doesn't move Melo at the deadline. Its sickening that you keep bringing this up and leaving out all of the reasons why it couldn't happen the way you wanted it to. It would be nice though. Unfortunately in the real world superstars don't wait for new cba's and lockouts so that free agency can be reigned by the owners so that they can make considerably less money to sign with another team. Gms don't wait to let their superstars walk and get nothing for them. Remember that had just happened in July of that year to the Raptors and the Heat. You can't tell me that Ujiri lets Melo walk for nothing. It would have been great if the Nuggets management said our fate is to get nothing for our superstar but that wasn't going to happen.

Melo could have played it a bit smarter by basically saying the Knicks were his preferred option. As a player of his age he should know that gutting the team he gets traded to is not smart, if the goal is to win a championship. All he did was basically say, I want max money and however the chips fall, no problem.

Compare this to what Lebron did and you can see that Lebron outclasses Melo on multiple levels, not just playing.

Did you actually just say that Lebron's "Decision" was a model of athlete maturity and wisdom? Holy guacamole

the way lebron kept his agenda hidden until he fulfilled his contractual obligations "outclassed" melo. the way lebron handled the pr aspect of his agenda was an embarrassing disaster. two separate issues.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
fishmike
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10/23/2013  9:20 AM
Knicks arent about winning. Melo wins you 50 games a year and thats enough for MSG to sell tickets. He's a cash cow here and not going anywhere.
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smackeddog
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10/23/2013  10:42 AM
Maybe trade him for Durant and Westbrook (he probably needs to be included so the salaries match) and the Thunders top 3 protected 1st round pick.
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10/23/2013  10:50 AM
Dagger wrote:
knickstorrents wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I think his job is to make trades to get help for Melo. Not sure why the Grunwald move happened but bringing in a guy from the era when players came and went at a high rate annually appears on the surface like the owner might like some player movement. There has never been any indication that Dolan isn't locked into Melo. Maybe something in his body language when he was playing softball with Melo in Puerto Rico this past summer?

this knucklehead had the help he needed here in new york just by waiting for free agency. and now he is demanding help. sickening

He was being traded because Ujiri wasn't going to let him walk for nothing. He wanted a new deal under the old cba because the owners were telling the players they were locking them out and reigning in free agency. Walsh wanted a second star and didn't want him going to NJ. Melo was being moved at the deadline. If the Knicks didn't trade for him he was going somewhere else. Ignoring the economic climate at the time, who the parties were involved in the deal and saying Melo could have waited and became a knick is just wrong. No way Ujiri doesn't move Melo at the deadline. Its sickening that you keep bringing this up and leaving out all of the reasons why it couldn't happen the way you wanted it to. It would be nice though. Unfortunately in the real world superstars don't wait for new cba's and lockouts so that free agency can be reigned by the owners so that they can make considerably less money to sign with another team. Gms don't wait to let their superstars walk and get nothing for them. Remember that had just happened in July of that year to the Raptors and the Heat. You can't tell me that Ujiri lets Melo walk for nothing. It would have been great if the Nuggets management said our fate is to get nothing for our superstar but that wasn't going to happen.

Melo could have played it a bit smarter by basically saying the Knicks were his preferred option. As a player of his age he should know that gutting the team he gets traded to is not smart, if the goal is to win a championship. All he did was basically say, I want max money and however the chips fall, no problem.

Compare this to what Lebron did and you can see that Lebron outclasses Melo on multiple levels, not just playing.

Did you actually just say that Lebron's "Decision" was a model of athlete maturity and wisdom? Holy guacamole

Next up here on your 24-hour LeQ Lovefest channel: Lebron's lifted defensive flopping to an art form. Truly an ingenious, cutting edge athelete.

To be followed by: Melo's lifted nothing to an artform beyond cancerous chucking and pointless playoff appearences.

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10/23/2013  9:16 PM
Nalod wrote:Funny we talk all the time about the Lakers but thats not the only team in LA.

Funny we talked about him and Chris Paul playing in NY, but Chris is in LA.

Funny how Lakes have MDA and I can't see Kobe giving him the keys, or Melo running out MDA twice. They got a pretty good coach in LA, and he a clipper!

Lakes won't trade as they don't have the chips to make one, but Clips do. Im not a Blake Griffin fan, but he is an asset.

Melo and Tyson for Griffin, Jordan and a sweetner?

Im not feeling we got a championship team either way.

OMG - Please no. Blake Griffin needs to learn defense before I would have any interest in him. Jordan is interesting but not even an option at THAT price.

TKF on Melo ::....he is a punk, a jerk, a self absorbed out of shape, self aggrandizing, unprofessional, volume chucking coach killing playoff loser!!
It is our new GM's duty to put Melo on the trade block

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