Dagger wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Dagger wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

tkf wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:It will fail miserably and a change will be made. The east is drastically better and our difficiences will be exposed a lot sooner this year. Last yr Kidd got off to a great start. He is gone

I said it before.. kidds great start really helped the knicks more than given credit for.. early on I had him as the knicks MVP.. that will be sorely missed this season..

Agreed. Excluding that stretch, this was more like a .550 team.

You guys always say it's a team game and now you want to chalk up an entire stretch of 20+ games of strong basketball to one 40 year old Jason Kidd. Oh the hypocrisy of it all. Everything is only true when it suits the agenda, I see.

he was the main reason they played AS a team! his influence was infectious and created synergy. please

He was influential, but he wasn't the savior you're making him out to be. The intangibles Kidd gave us last year can be replaced by any leader, and it would actually be difficult to find someone that wouldn't quintuple his playoff production. If Kidd was on the team this year you would not be singing the same tune, you'd talk about how he's old and broken down, which he was. What magic do you think he worked. Carmelo Anthony couldn't give a **** what Kidd had to say after the first 5 games. Anything he said otherwise was just pandering to the media.

i think the lion's share of regular-season success was due to kidd being in the backcourt-- with felton-- and then prigioni being in the backcourt-- with felton. by the end of the season kidd was worn out, so his playoff performance was understandable for a 40-year old guy. even so, the two-point guard lineup is fool's gold come playoff time. ironically, shumpert was recuperating for a good amount of the season and did not start coming on until the final 20 games or so, if i recall. but that is no longer the case.

so this year in my opinion you can't leave shumpert out of the starting lineup which means either felton has to improve-- which is unlikely-- or you have to have a better orchestrator. also, the knicks can't afford to be a middling defensive team and that is exactly what they will be with a two-point guard lineup. in fact i think both artest and shumpert have to be out there most of the time and you work from there to build rotations and substitution patterns.

if woodson does not do this the consequences will be to stunt shumpert's development and to wear out chandler.

tkf wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:It will fail miserably and a change will be made. The east is drastically better and our difficiences will be exposed a lot sooner this year. Last yr Kidd got off to a great start. He is gone

I said it before.. kidds great start really helped the knicks more than given credit for.. early on I had him as the knicks MVP.. that will be sorely missed this season..