IronWillGiroud wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:HE is the one people should be focusing and hating on if anyone. You want to point the finger at someone (haters) then point at the 100million dollar statuette.

can't hate amar'e,

he didn't hold a gun to anyone's head and demand a max deal,

that's all on our genius in the big chair.

i don't want to say that i called this, that's not my nature, but i called it.

but he is the BIGGEST reason we aren't better than we are. Melo would likely be more efficient if we had our OTHER ALLSTAR on the floor to take some of the pressure off. That's just common sense and basketball 101.

Moonangie wrote:Retire you nursing home muhfuh. Just go away and let us get on with winning. Don't need an albatross on this team. Start working on your Bar Mitzvah torah portion and let the youngins do the hoopin.

DING, DING, DING...WE HAVE A WINNER :)

Houston was (while active) loathed because of his contract and INABILITY to perform after the surgery. Amare is no different. An albatross contract hung around a player who can't perform anymore. Does anyone really think he will get better instead of worse? I expect even less from Mr. Glass this season.

DurzoBlint wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:HE is the one people should be focusing and hating on if anyone. You want to point the finger at someone (haters) then point at the 100million dollar statuette.

can't hate amar'e,

he didn't hold a gun to anyone's head and demand a max deal,

that's all on our genius in the big chair.

i don't want to say that i called this, that's not my nature, but i called it.

but he is the BIGGEST reason we aren't better than we are. Melo would likely be more efficient if we had our OTHER ALLSTAR on the floor to take some of the pressure off. That's just common sense and basketball 101.

he's not though!

no other team was willing to give him the guaranteed years we did,

the league knew, teams knew, what was in store,

fans knew what would happen after a few years,

it's not like we didn't know amar'e would crumble like a cookie, the writing was on the wall,

he served his function, he was a bridge to bring melo superstar, just like melo will serve as a bridge to bring a second superstar,

hopefully melo and the next superstar will bring us the title.

IronWillGiroud wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:HE is the one people should be focusing and hating on if anyone. You want to point the finger at someone (haters) then point at the 100million dollar statuette.

can't hate amar'e,

he didn't hold a gun to anyone's head and demand a max deal,

that's all on our genius in the big chair.

i don't want to say that i called this, that's not my nature, but i called it.

but he is the BIGGEST reason we aren't better than we are. Melo would likely be more efficient if we had our OTHER ALLSTAR on the floor to take some of the pressure off. That's just common sense and basketball 101.

he's not though!

no other team was willing to give him the guaranteed years we did,

the league knew, teams knew, what was in store,

fans knew what would happen after a few years,

it's not like we didn't know amar'e would crumble like a cookie, the writing was on the wall,

he served his function, he was a bridge to bring melo superstar, just like melo will serve as a bridge to bring a second superstar,

hopefully melo and the next superstar will bring us the title.

so the 27pts per game he was averaging before Melo wouldn't be a HUGE IMPROVEMENT. Hav
so, having a healthy Amare would make us a significantly better team
so what no other team was willing to give him the money. We gave it to him in good faith.
Yes we expected this but, that doesn't mean it we should be OK with it or, that he should get a pass
and as a bridge to bring Melo to play with him, instead of carrying this team alone. Was supposed to be 2stars, no 1.00005.

I had hoped we'd get at least 2-3 good years out of him but we got less than 1. He broke down in game of of he post season and has missed more time than he has played

IronWillGiroud wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:HE is the one people should be focusing and hating on if anyone. You want to point the finger at someone (haters) then point at the 100million dollar statuette.

can't hate amar'e,

he didn't hold a gun to anyone's head and demand a max deal,

that's all on our genius in the big chair.

i don't want to say that i called this, that's not my nature, but i called it.

but he is the BIGGEST reason we aren't better than we are. Melo would likely be more efficient if we had our OTHER ALLSTAR on the floor to take some of the pressure off. That's just common sense and basketball 101.

he's not though!

no other team was willing to give him the guaranteed years we did,

the league knew, teams knew, what was in store,

fans knew what would happen after a few years,

it's not like we didn't know amar'e would crumble like a cookie, the writing was on the wall,

he served his function, he was a bridge to bring melo superstar, just like melo will serve as a bridge to bring a second superstar,

hopefully melo and the next superstar will bring us the title.

It'S not like we had an amnesty that we used on a player we traded for a few months earlier.
Nooo, it's not.

DurzoBlint wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:HE is the one people should be focusing and hating on if anyone. You want to point the finger at someone (haters) then point at the 100million dollar statuette.

can't hate amar'e,

he didn't hold a gun to anyone's head and demand a max deal,

that's all on our genius in the big chair.

i don't want to say that i called this, that's not my nature, but i called it.

but he is the BIGGEST reason we aren't better than we are. Melo would likely be more efficient if we had our OTHER ALLSTAR on the floor to take some of the pressure off. That's just common sense and basketball 101.

nonsense. they were garbage together. no synergy was at all possible with those two. you think basketball is five one-on-one games.

it's a team sport.

CrushAlot wrote:I think the Knicks are handling Amare's situation the right way. Amare just can't take the wear and tear and he isn't a guy that is going to go half speed once he gets out there. Water work, sitting out of back to backs, and limited minutes might get him through the season. I think he might consider retiring if he has another major set back.

I love Stat but I have my doubts he will play here again. His knees are shot. I don't think any amount of rehab, PT, voodoo, etc can undo the damage at this point. He is the new H20 unfortunately. A lot of promise under a huge contract and that will never pan out.

2) We shouldn't be expecting more than what he said regardless.

3) If he is healthy, it would be silly to not give him a light number of minutes just so he can be acclimated. If even this becomes a chore, the guy should just retire.

OasisBU wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:I think the Knicks are handling Amare's situation the right way. Amare just can't take the wear and tear and he isn't a guy that is going to go half speed once he gets out there. Water work, sitting out of back to backs, and limited minutes might get him through the season. I think he might consider retiring if he has another major set back.

I love Stat but I have my doubts he will play here again. His knees are shot. I don't think any amount of rehab, PT, voodoo, etc can undo the damage at this point. He is the new H20 unfortunately. A lot of promise under a huge contract and that will never pan out.

You don't know that this plan for Amar'e won't work. You don't have any inside info about the condition of his knees and how much he has left. Clearly he's got serious issues with his knees but we don't know how limiting him will work. The good thing is that we have so much talent on the roster that he really isn't under any pressure to push it. He can basically hang back until the playoffs. I'm hoping it works for him this time.

Let's face it tho, Amar'e is screwed in terms of his knees after he stops playing. He's likely already headed straight to arthritis. In this case most of this is up to just how much pain he can endure playing on the knees over the next 2 years. If he had a really bad bone on bone right now I doubt that they would just let him continue playing on the knees since it's a debilitating condition and they know from H2O that it's pretty much over once you get to that point. We just don't know, but what we do know is that it's a pretty desperate situation with the knee when you have a debridement done. There have been reports that it does work for some people tho, giving them a bit more life on the knee, so here's hoping he's the lucky one.

Why even play? Retire from the nba and get into crossfit or American ninja warrior.... being in phenomenal shape like he says doesn't mean you can still play nba basketball.

Sush a waste. If he was healthy we'd be ok. Right now that 20 mill cap slot could be used to upgrade the team significantly. Maybe that's the plan this year? Trade starts contact for real help? Maybe a team gives up on their star to save money or something. Marc Gasol? Maybe Pau or even Kobe. Rondo? Actually anybody starter level would do. We just need a quality player that is ready to contribute to the team every night. For 20 mill we could get like 3 quality players lol.

Anyway you admire his work ethic and Amare is not a bad guy at all. Just really frustrating that he's taking up space in our roster and can't contribute like one of the guys. We'll see what happens