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knickscity
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9/15/2013 6:43 PM
Firstly, I do want to commend you for being able to temper your expectations, it makes it easier to respond.
nixluva wrote:The important point is that AB is NOT a bad defender when it comes to guarding his man. There's statistical proof suggests that he's a very good man defender at the PF spot. What he doesn't do well is help defense, which is what Tyson and KMart are here for. If you start Bargnani with Tyson and Melo you can still let Melo get to post up cuz it won't really effect AB who can score form anywhere on the floor. I dont think this should be Woody's approach, the guy that should be free to roam the floor if anyone should be Melo. Bargnani doesnt hit the three ball as well as melo, even though I'm not a fan of him taking 6 a game either, but he hits them at a high rate. Bargnani needs to have a defined role, and that role is low post, make the defense pay to free up the wing. nixluva wrote:The question of rebounds is a legit concern, however, let's also put that into perspective. Spurs were #20, Knicks were #26 and Heat were #30 in rebounds. Being a top rebounding team doesn't guarantee you will win. It's one aspect of the game. Of course you don't want to be bad at rebounding but you don't win the title on that aspect alone. The point of bringing in AB is to get him back to scoring the ball and making the team harder to defend. This team can't go further in the playoffs without more scoring variety. Being a poor rebounding team makes it harder to win, and the Spurs and Heat arent bad at all....they dont miss shots...thus less OFFENSIVE rebounds to get...... But in the regular season the Spurs were 4th in DEFENSIVE rebounds...the Knicks were 25....a major difference, and that 4th was fractions away from #1, and a hair above the Pacers. Miami was middle of the pack on defensive boards, and thats expected with no center, but ironically ranked higher than Memphis. http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/team/_/stat/rebounds-per-game/sort/avgDefensiveRebounds You dont find it odd that the worst shooting teams are the best rebounding ones by stats? Indy and Chi cant shoot to save their life. But Miami and Spurs get the boards the need to because they have good rebounders on their teams. The Spurs were tied with Indy for top 5 in defensive rebounding, so yes, once again, they get the boards they should. Our defensive rebounding was awful in the regular and post season....that has to change. nixluva wrote:Of course we'd love it if Bargnani was a 20/10 guy but then we'd have zero chance of getting him if he was. We're not getting optimal position players here. The Knicks have to figure out ways to win despite the flawed nature of their players. Last year they were pretty successful despite being a poor rebounding team. The same was true for the Spurs and Heat. Teams today have flaws. Fans here just don't like the flaws the Knicks have because traditionally rebounding is a core belief of what it takes to win. It's a tough sell. To make it work the Knicks have to be superior in other aspects of the game to make up for the weak rebounding. That's what the Spurs do and the Heat, who just happen to have played in the NBA Finals. To get to the Finals they had to beat the #1 and the #12 rebounding teams in the NBA, Indy and Memphis. Yes, rebounding is a core element as I explained above, but elite defense is a paramount along with efficient scoring....something Miami and Spurs are very good at. More defense if the offense is poor....see Bulls and Pacers. I know folks look at the Mavs to show yes, an offensive minded team can do it... But the year they won.... Top 10 in defensive rebounding....-1.7 margin total.....and also 6th best in opponents PPS....they did more than score. To get a true view of where we were.... |