SupremeCommander wrote:

Moonangie wrote:

smackeddog wrote:I think people who pretend that they don't understand what he meant, in order to sneer, are just as dumb.

+1 ^

+2

yea, total non-story,

everyone knows exactly what he meant,

very childish to pick on this

jrodmc wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:Smart guy? Doubtful. I am sure we have all encountered dumber though.

Should he delete his twitter account? Absolutely.

Should he be a Knick? Probably not.

Does he need to learn how to speak more appropriately? Yes.

However, his heart was in the right place. There are a lot of other people that are more deserving of criticism. I think some people are just bored and looking to jump on someone.

Explain point number 3?
So in order to be a Knick you have to be:
1) Smarter than most? We are talking pro atheletes here, not captains of industry or leaders of the free world. John Starks and Anthony Mason and Charles Oakley all say hello. Are you suffering from post-Lin/Landry Fields syndrome?
2) Well-spoken? Really? See #1.
3) Internet communication savvy? No stupid tweeting? Your point #4 sort of negates this argument.

And your last point is really the whole point.

No, I think he shouldn't be a Knick bc of his game. #3 is not a result of 1 and 2.

jrodmc wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:Smart guy? Doubtful. I am sure we have all encountered dumber though.

Should he delete his twitter account? Absolutely.

Should he be a Knick? Probably not.

Does he need to learn how to speak more appropriately? Yes.

However, his heart was in the right place. There are a lot of other people that are more deserving of criticism. I think some people are just bored and looking to jump on someone.

Explain point number 3?
So in order to be a Knick you have to be:
1) Smarter than most? We are talking pro atheletes here, not captains of industry or leaders of the free world. John Starks and Anthony Mason and Charles Oakley all say hello. Are you suffering from post-Lin/Landry Fields syndrome?
2) Well-spoken? Really? See #1.
3) Internet communication savvy? No stupid tweeting? Your point #4 sort of negates this argument.

And your last point is really the whole point.

No, I think he shouldn't be a Knick bc of his game. #3 is not a result of 1 and 2.

I forget; his game? He was SMOTY, right? I know that means squat to some in here, but apparently the league thinks his game is worthy of acknowledgement, and by transfer, more than worthy to wear the orange and blue. He's done more for the #8 since Sprewell. Yeah, that includes being better and more impactful than Rooster boy.

He had a brutally dismal playoff run, no excuses provided. That doesn't undo the entire 82 game season, or does it?

i'm not sure if you're being Irish here,

does it undo the entire 82 game season? of course it does.

jr has hurt the knicks much more than he has helped

jrodmc wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:Smart guy? Doubtful. I am sure we have all encountered dumber though.

Should he delete his twitter account? Absolutely.

Should he be a Knick? Probably not.

Does he need to learn how to speak more appropriately? Yes.

However, his heart was in the right place. There are a lot of other people that are more deserving of criticism. I think some people are just bored and looking to jump on someone.

Explain point number 3?
So in order to be a Knick you have to be:
1) Smarter than most? We are talking pro atheletes here, not captains of industry or leaders of the free world. John Starks and Anthony Mason and Charles Oakley all say hello. Are you suffering from post-Lin/Landry Fields syndrome?
2) Well-spoken? Really? See #1.
3) Internet communication savvy? No stupid tweeting? Your point #4 sort of negates this argument.

And your last point is really the whole point.

No, I think he shouldn't be a Knick bc of his game. #3 is not a result of 1 and 2.

I forget; his game? He was SMOTY, right? I know that means squat to some in here, but apparently the league thinks his game is worthy of acknowledgement, and by transfer, more than worthy to wear the orange and blue. He's done more for the #8 since Sprewell. Yeah, that includes being better and more impactful than Rooster boy.

He had a brutally dismal playoff run, no excuses provided. That doesn't undo the entire 82 game season, or does it?

i'm not sure if you're being Irish here,

does it undo the entire 82 game season? of course it does.

jr has hurt the knicks much more than he has helped

Dumb and Dumber.

I'm not sure what being Irish has to do with anything, but then I barely understand (or have the ambition to understand) much of what you post.

Do we win 54 games without JR?
Do we win the Division without JR?
Do we get the 2nd seed without JR?
Did someone else step up when Melo was hurt?
Did Steve Novak hit those game winners?
Did all those things hurt the Knicks?

He played like sheeit after the Jason Terry elbow incident. Granted.

Amare has been an absolute abortion the last few playoff seasons, bordering on the bizarre. No one's saying he doesn't deserve to wear the uni.

Did JKidd deserve to be a Knick? JKidd shouldn't be allowed in the building based on this new JR standard.

The stupidity of the "shouldn't be a Knick" because his grammatical skills accurately represent someone who barely got out of hs is what is truly dumb. Trying to down his game is even dumber.

you married to a woman for 30 years, then you cheat on her and you guys divorce,

were you ever a good husband?

The mecca does not require an IQ test.

IronWillGiroud wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:Smart guy? Doubtful. I am sure we have all encountered dumber though.

Should he delete his twitter account? Absolutely.

Should he be a Knick? Probably not.

Does he need to learn how to speak more appropriately? Yes.

However, his heart was in the right place. There are a lot of other people that are more deserving of criticism. I think some people are just bored and looking to jump on someone.

Explain point number 3?
So in order to be a Knick you have to be:
1) Smarter than most? We are talking pro atheletes here, not captains of industry or leaders of the free world. John Starks and Anthony Mason and Charles Oakley all say hello. Are you suffering from post-Lin/Landry Fields syndrome?
2) Well-spoken? Really? See #1.
3) Internet communication savvy? No stupid tweeting? Your point #4 sort of negates this argument.

And your last point is really the whole point.

No, I think he shouldn't be a Knick bc of his game. #3 is not a result of 1 and 2.

I forget; his game? He was SMOTY, right? I know that means squat to some in here, but apparently the league thinks his game is worthy of acknowledgement, and by transfer, more than worthy to wear the orange and blue. He's done more for the #8 since Sprewell. Yeah, that includes being better and more impactful than Rooster boy.

He had a brutally dismal playoff run, no excuses provided. That doesn't undo the entire 82 game season, or does it?

i'm not sure if you're being Irish here,

does it undo the entire 82 game season? of course it does.

jr has hurt the knicks much more than he has helped

Dumb and Dumber.

I'm not sure what being Irish has to do with anything, but then I barely understand (or have the ambition to understand) much of what you post.

Do we win 54 games without JR?
Do we win the Division without JR?
Do we get the 2nd seed without JR?
Did someone else step up when Melo was hurt?
Did Steve Novak hit those game winners?
Did all those things hurt the Knicks?

He played like sheeit after the Jason Terry elbow incident. Granted.

Amare has been an absolute abortion the last few playoff seasons, bordering on the bizarre. No one's saying he doesn't deserve to wear the uni.

Did JKidd deserve to be a Knick? JKidd shouldn't be allowed in the building based on this new JR standard.

The stupidity of the "shouldn't be a Knick" because his grammatical skills accurately represent someone who barely got out of hs is what is truly dumb. Trying to down his game is even dumber.

you married to a woman for 30 years, then you cheat on her and you guys divorce,

were you ever a good husband?

You supported and loved the woman for 30 years, stuck by her while she cheated on you, stood by her in sickness and health.
One weekend on a business trip you eff up.

In your black and white world of deep squats, backboard slapping and liquid lard diet, IWG that invalidates the previous 30 years right?

Why do I bother?

you are a student with great homework grades and quizes,

then on the final you get an F,

are you a good student??

You spend months posting stupid things about white lanky forwards, heavy cream, bouncing tennis balls, squat racks and the weather.

Then you post one item that is supremely deep, entertaining and insightful.

Are you now a great poster filled with God's gift of intelligence?

Nalod wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:Smart guy? Doubtful. I am sure we have all encountered dumber though.

Should he delete his twitter account? Absolutely.

Should he be a Knick? Probably not.

Does he need to learn how to speak more appropriately? Yes.

However, his heart was in the right place. There are a lot of other people that are more deserving of criticism. I think some people are just bored and looking to jump on someone.

Explain point number 3?
So in order to be a Knick you have to be:
1) Smarter than most? We are talking pro atheletes here, not captains of industry or leaders of the free world. John Starks and Anthony Mason and Charles Oakley all say hello. Are you suffering from post-Lin/Landry Fields syndrome?
2) Well-spoken? Really? See #1.
3) Internet communication savvy? No stupid tweeting? Your point #4 sort of negates this argument.

And your last point is really the whole point.

No, I think he shouldn't be a Knick bc of his game. #3 is not a result of 1 and 2.

I forget; his game? He was SMOTY, right? I know that means squat to some in here, but apparently the league thinks his game is worthy of acknowledgement, and by transfer, more than worthy to wear the orange and blue. He's done more for the #8 since Sprewell. Yeah, that includes being better and more impactful than Rooster boy.

He had a brutally dismal playoff run, no excuses provided. That doesn't undo the entire 82 game season, or does it?

i'm not sure if you're being Irish here,

does it undo the entire 82 game season? of course it does.

jr has hurt the knicks much more than he has helped

Dumb and Dumber.

I'm not sure what being Irish has to do with anything, but then I barely understand (or have the ambition to understand) much of what you post.

Do we win 54 games without JR?
Do we win the Division without JR?
Do we get the 2nd seed without JR?
Did someone else step up when Melo was hurt?
Did Steve Novak hit those game winners?
Did all those things hurt the Knicks?

He played like sheeit after the Jason Terry elbow incident. Granted.

Amare has been an absolute abortion the last few playoff seasons, bordering on the bizarre. No one's saying he doesn't deserve to wear the uni.

Did JKidd deserve to be a Knick? JKidd shouldn't be allowed in the building based on this new JR standard.

The stupidity of the "shouldn't be a Knick" because his grammatical skills accurately represent someone who barely got out of hs is what is truly dumb. Trying to down his game is even dumber.

you married to a woman for 30 years, then you cheat on her and you guys divorce,

were you ever a good husband?

You supported and loved the woman for 30 years, stuck by her while she cheated on you, stood by her in sickness and health.
One weekend on a business trip you eff up.

In your black and white world of deep squats, backboard slapping and liquid lard diet, IWG that invalidates the previous 30 years right?

Why do I bother?

you are a student with great homework grades and quizes,

then on the final you get an F,

are you a good student??

You spend months posting stupid things about white lanky forwards, heavy cream, bouncing tennis balls, squat racks and the weather.

Then you post one item that is supremely deep, entertaining and insightful.

Are you now a great poster filled with God's gift of intelligence?

Shyts getting philsophical.

Bonn is a professor. He can fix this.

Never happen. This has nothing to do with mathematical proof. Plus it's funny; please reference the other thread.

My bet's actually on playa to solve the whole issue by providing us with video proof positive that IWG is actually the ghost of John Quincy Adams.

Allanfan20 wrote:Yes, he had an good regular season but if memory serves me correct, he reverted back to a lot of old habits then everything exploded in the playoffs. I know that's a run on but it's a pain to correct on my phone.

I am not requiring him to be a smart man to be on the Knicks. However, when you play, get your head out of your ass. He hurt the team when they desperately needed him to do what he does best. Score. He couldn't even do that. I'm sorry if I sound harsh towards JR but I am allowed to be critical towards a player.

And yes, it turned me off big time when he is playing that bad in the playoffs yet he is apparently clubbing it every night and likely getting ish faced stoned. Maybe we have different morals regarding that but those are mine.

Your namesake made a career out of disappearing in the third quarter of games. He had one fabulous playoff moment that stuck it to Riley's Heat. The rest of the time, I wouldn't have let him carry Sprewell's jockstrap as far as all around performance. But I would never say H20 shouldn't be allowed to wear the uniform. Being critical about performance and saying someone then shouldn't be in the uniform is a bit over the top and can't really be honestly backed up. Starks shot us out of chip. Ewing blew a simple dunk by trying to channel his inner Gervin. Charles Smith...well, maybe you could make a case there.

I can respect the moral stance. Not quite sure how you would enforce that, given you're talking about a business involving paying guys in their 20's millions, living in 5 star hotels, and being surrounded by hoons, both on the court and off, but you are right. Would be nice if the moron wasn't spliffing and drinking himself into oblivion.

Allanfan20 wrote:Look, I don't dislike JR. I want to root for him and yes, he showed me something in the regular season. Not a ton bc he was still very inefficient but he showed he could really turn his career around. With that, it's NOT the bad performance alone that irritates me. It's the fact that he is drinking and apparently smoking and clubbing his brains out despite the fact that he's playing this bad. He has an obligation to the team. We needed him on his toes (to say the least) and he wasn't.

I don't trust him.

I hate to break it to you, but most nba players do the same thing- heck, most people in life do the same thing. NBA players are young, they have money, fame, popularity, women throwing themselves at them- they're just enjoying themselves. I get annoyed when it impacts their performance, but then again how many of us have impacted our performance at work because we went out partying or whatever?

jrodmc wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:Smart guy? Doubtful. I am sure we have all encountered dumber though.

Should he delete his twitter account? Absolutely.

Should he be a Knick? Probably not.

Does he need to learn how to speak more appropriately? Yes.

However, his heart was in the right place. There are a lot of other people that are more deserving of criticism. I think some people are just bored and looking to jump on someone.

Explain point number 3?
So in order to be a Knick you have to be:
1) Smarter than most? We are talking pro atheletes here, not captains of industry or leaders of the free world. John Starks and Anthony Mason and Charles Oakley all say hello. Are you suffering from post-Lin/Landry Fields syndrome?
2) Well-spoken? Really? See #1.
3) Internet communication savvy? No stupid tweeting? Your point #4 sort of negates this argument.

And your last point is really the whole point.

No, I think he shouldn't be a Knick bc of his game. #3 is not a result of 1 and 2.

I forget; his game? He was SMOTY, right? I know that means squat to some in here, but apparently the league thinks his game is worthy of acknowledgement, and by transfer, more than worthy to wear the orange and blue. He's done more for the #8 since Sprewell. Yeah, that includes being better and more impactful than Rooster boy.

He had a brutally dismal playoff run, no excuses provided. That doesn't undo the entire 82 game season, or does it?

you have to compare apples to apples, so of course it negates it completely.

regular season is junior varsity time and he's a JV player. the playoffs is for varsity players. he is clearly not a varsity player and won't ever be.

when it comes to winning in the real season-- the playoffs-- he is a negative-sum player.

Allanfan20 wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:Look, I don't dislike JR. I want to root for him and yes, he showed me something in the regular season. Not a ton bc he was still very inefficient but he showed he could really turn his career around. With that, it's NOT the bad performance alone that irritates me. It's the fact that he is drinking and apparently smoking and clubbing his brains out despite the fact that he's playing this bad. He has an obligation to the team. We needed him on his toes (to say the least) and he wasn't.

I don't trust him.

I hate to break it to you, but most nba players do the same thing- heck, most people in life do the same thing. NBA players are young, they have money, fame, popularity, women throwing themselves at them- they're just enjoying themselves. I get annoyed when it impacts their performance, but then again how many of us have impacted our performance at work because we went out partying or whatever?

Most people in life do the same thing? As Bonn would say, "Show my your data" because I beg to differ. If your company is about to have a big time make or break moment and my top workers are out partying, I have to accept that bc everyone is doing that? How old are we now? How old is Smith? He has all of these days before him and ahead of him to party and waste his money away. Are you going to tell me that he just cannot show some form of self control and just go home for a month? Check out a movie? Go to a museum? He can't block it out for 2 small months?

If you are saying he can't, then we are dealing with someone with something we like to call a "drinking problem."

And how exactly do you know most NBA players go out partying and clubbing during their playoff runs while playing like absolute trash?

Yes, you're damn right I expect better out of the Knicks and I don't give a damn if every athlete on the planet is doing it.... which I am almost positive you are wrong about. But hey if I am wrong and you have the proof, I am right here to say "OK you're right." It doesn't make it right though. It just shows there is a much deeper issue needs to be fixed.

If I am about to possibly get a HUGE contract. I had some bad game in the playoffs. Am I even picking up a small glass of wine? Hell no. I am getting sleep, saying my prayers, getting up early, eating as well as I can, preparing as well as I can and giving myself as much rest that my body needs.

Is that really that hard for a pro athlete? If it is then I think that's a very sad thing.