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Vmart
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9/4/2013  10:09 PM
If there is a lesson to be learned give Phil Jackson what ever he wants. Stake in team, killer contract and watch the championships roll in. But this is the Knicks winning championships is never the goal. The Knicks never go ball to walls, always missing the key ingredient to get over the top.
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IronWillGiroud
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9/4/2013  10:13 PM
Vmart wrote:If there is a lesson to be learned give Phil Jackson what ever he wants. Stake in team, killer contract and watch the championships roll in. But this is the Knicks winning championships is never the goal. The Knicks never go ball to walls, always missing the key ingredient to get over the top.

some people will just never get it,

it's the same with everyone in every field and in everything man does,

knicks could win a championship under dolan by just keeping on throwing **** at the wall,

and if they win within the next 10 years, was this a bad strategy? how many different teams have won a championship in the last 10 years?

i like our chances better with dolan out of the picture, maybe just getting older and taking a back seat,

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jrodmc
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9/5/2013  10:09 AM
Vmart wrote:If there is a lesson to be learned give Phil Jackson what ever he wants. Stake in team, killer contract and watch the championships roll in. But this is the Knicks winning championships is never the goal. The Knicks never go ball to walls, always missing the key ingredient to get over the top.

Yes, the easy steps are always:
1) Draft the best player in the league.
2) Hire Phil Jackson.
3) Win chips.

Riley was quoted as "I have credibility". Quite a funny line for him to be reminded of now.
The wound being reopened was us beating the Heat and that scab almost every effing year...that was sweet.
The rat taking the cheese and tying his azz to Zo, who regularly got his azz handed to him by Ewing. Priceless.

Papabear
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9/5/2013  6:33 PM
Papabear Says

First of all Pat Reilly to me was a good coach but when he had Magic Johnson , and Kareem. all he had to do was let Magic and Worthy run the show. He wasn't all that then. He learned but he had the best players. He couldn't do anything when it MJ's turn to control. The Heat's first championship the refs and Wade's phantom fouls stole it from the Maveriks. I say what Brown did with Detroit was pure great. He won with no superstars. Now thats what I call great Not what Rielly did. Got to give props to Phill Jackson even though once again he had the worlds best players at his disposal. Now what San Antonio did was fantastic. Now that a great coach. To me better that Rielly and Jackson.

Papabear
GustavBahler
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9/5/2013  7:02 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/5/2013  7:05 PM
It was time for Riley to go. The way Riley coaches, the way he motivates players, only works for a while until players start feeling like they have heard this song before. Unless you have a team comprised of future HOFers, its hard to keep players amped up the way Riley did in NY. I don't know if giving him everything he wanted would have made a difference when you look at some of the deals he made with the Heat and the losses to NY in the playoffs. It took a few years for Riley to become a good exec. Ironically, Riley motivated the Knicks by leaving them the way he did.
BigDaddyG
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9/5/2013  7:04 PM    LAST EDITED: 9/5/2013  7:04 PM
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

First of all Pat Reilly to me was a good coach but when he had Magic Johnson , and Kareem. all he had to do was let Magic and Worthy run the show. He wasn't all that then. He learned but he had the best players. He couldn't do anything when it MJ's turn to control. The Heat's first championship the refs and Wade's phantom fouls stole it from the Maveriks. I say what Brown did with Detroit was pure great. He won with no superstars. Now thats what I call great Not what Rielly did. Got to give props to Phill Jackson even though once again he had the worlds best players at his disposal. Now what San Antonio did was fantastic. Now that a great coach. To me better that Rielly and Jackson.

I love Popovich and respect the system, but a lot of his success stems from the fact that he had Tim Duncan, arguably the best player in the world from 1999-2010. Even now, he has a top 5 point guard on his roster. Let's see how good the Spurs are when age catches up to Parker and Kawhi Leonard is the best player on the roster. No matter how you stack it, the best teams are usually the ones with the best players.

Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
NYKBocker
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9/6/2013  12:40 AM
knickscity wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:Does anyone remember who that first-round pick we received from the Heat in the tampering settlement turned out to be lol There's one for trivia night.

Walter Mccarty

Which became Chris Mills which became Sprewell.

Opening up an old wound.

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