franco12 wrote:its really sad that everyone is so focused on 2015. Unless we're getting Lebron at that point, I don't think there is a FA available that could turn this franchise into a championship contender.

Aldridge, Love, Rondo, Tony Parker.

martin wrote:

franco12 wrote:its really sad that everyone is so focused on 2015. Unless we're getting Lebron at that point, I don't think there is a FA available that could turn this franchise into a championship contender.

Aldridge, Love, Rondo, Tony Parker.

With the possible exception of Rondo, I don't see how any of those players in 2015 can tip us from title pretender to contender.

Parker will be 33 and I'm not convinced that either Aldridge or Love are that good that whatever roster we have in 2015 (assuming Melo is the main cog, and that he is also 2 years older and much worn in the tooth).

Maybe if you are somehow able to do the impossible and add 2 of them (Love/Rondo?) to Melo at a home town discount contract (yes, not happening), maybe then.

But I tend to think we're trapped at an L Point (langrangian) between championship contender and Lottery Winner - neither good enough to advance far nor bad enough to actually add the kind of superstar talent that is transformative.

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nyk4ever wrote:i don't get how people can get on this contract. the rhetoric is unbelievable - $5.57m for a "player with a checkered career and surgically repaired knee" but let's forget he just happened to average 18pts and 5rebs a game last year. i swear, some of these reporters really do think they are holier than thou...

A lot of posters have been very anti this contract and one of the complaints was that it was 4 years. Hopefully this eases their concerns. Smith signing in my opinion had to happen/

trust me, it won't end.

Certainly eases my concerns.

gunsnewing wrote:Melo will probably opt out after next year and fubar that whole plan. And the Knicks will be more than happy to pay him $25mil+ per. Man can dream tho

MS wrote:The Knicks will never win anything as long as Dolan is at the helm. Melo will get a max deal at 20MM plus and be on the downswing of his career. We have no first round picks, bad management and continue to make signings like Camby, Novak, pick up player options only to amnesty all flexibility. It's downright disgraceful to root for a team with top 4 resources that continues to repeat the same stupid mistakes for 10 plus seasons.

Why would any free agent waste there time coming to NY. Our talent pool is Hardaway Jr and Shumpert, it's mind blowing how we give up every young piece, draft pick we ever bring in for overpaid ****ty veterans.

why you guys bother being fans? I don't get it, you think the absolute worst and kind of expect it.

franco12 wrote:

martin wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Melo will probably opt out after next year and fubar that whole plan. And the Knicks will be more than happy to pay him $25mil+ per. Man can dream tho

MS wrote:The Knicks will never win anything as long as Dolan is at the helm. Melo will get a max deal at 20MM plus and be on the downswing of his career. We have no first round picks, bad management and continue to make signings like Camby, Novak, pick up player options only to amnesty all flexibility. It's downright disgraceful to root for a team with top 4 resources that continues to repeat the same stupid mistakes for 10 plus seasons.

Why would any free agent waste there time coming to NY. Our talent pool is Hardaway Jr and Shumpert, it's mind blowing how we give up every young piece, draft pick we ever bring in for overpaid ****ty veterans.

why you guys bother being fans? I don't get it, you think the absolute worst and kind of expect it.

Sorry - I'm allergic to kool aid.

Personally - its hard to be a fan. I grew up in the area, and never picked being a knick fan. But I will say this, Dolan is probably doing as good a job of making me pick a new team as any thing else.

I'm used to the heartache but this teamhas certainly improved... I personally plan to enjoy the ride (for once)

franco12 wrote:

martin wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Melo will probably opt out after next year and fubar that whole plan. And the Knicks will be more than happy to pay him $25mil+ per. Man can dream tho

MS wrote:The Knicks will never win anything as long as Dolan is at the helm. Melo will get a max deal at 20MM plus and be on the downswing of his career. We have no first round picks, bad management and continue to make signings like Camby, Novak, pick up player options only to amnesty all flexibility. It's downright disgraceful to root for a team with top 4 resources that continues to repeat the same stupid mistakes for 10 plus seasons.

Why would any free agent waste there time coming to NY. Our talent pool is Hardaway Jr and Shumpert, it's mind blowing how we give up every young piece, draft pick we ever bring in for overpaid ****ty veterans.

why you guys bother being fans? I don't get it, you think the absolute worst and kind of expect it.

Sorry - I'm allergic to kool aid.

Personally - its hard to be a fan. I grew up in the area, and never picked being a knick fan. But I will say this, Dolan is probably doing as good a job of making me pick a new team as any thing else.

Yeah but there's a big difference between kool aid and being a fan who enjoys rooting for team. There are major flaws in Knicks ownership no doubt, but there are some positives too and it's not all gross like it was for LAC for many years.

Some seem like you are expecting Spurs or OKC (who has major spending flaws too) and when you don't get that you poo-poo everything.

martin wrote:

franco12 wrote:its really sad that everyone is so focused on 2015. Unless we're getting Lebron at that point, I don't think there is a FA available that could turn this franchise into a championship contender.

Aldridge, Love, Rondo, Tony Parker.

I know we're going to end up with Love because I can't stand him!

The tricky thing is is that hardly any of the top FAs to be actually reach free agency these days- they either get an extension or they force a trade.

Some posters seem to have become fixed on the Miami Heat rebuild, but it really was a once in a lifetime thing- 3 friends, all FAs at once and one of them was an uber talent in Lebron. I'd rather take a more gradual approach and aim for 2 max contracts and a good team around them than 3 max contracts surrounded by garbage.