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gunsnewing
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7/10/2013  4:03 PM
It's not so much the players but the fact we shot our load for one player who happens to be a volume scorer and not much else. We would be able to surround Melo with players had we held on to the picks especially. Gallo is the only one with real value so he had to go for Melo.
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7/10/2013  4:07 PM
gunsnewing wrote:It's not so much the players but the fact we shot our load for one player who happens to be a volume scorer and not much else. We would be able to surround Melo with players had we held on to the picks especially. Gallo is the only one with real value so he had to go for Melo.

At least now we got Gallo light in Bargs. But to be honest, he might amount to Gallo Heavy Duty in a new place. Remember, he is coming from Toronto. He was "Vinced" out I think...

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7/10/2013  4:14 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/10/2013  4:17 PM
I think he has more upside than gallo. Can't teach 7ft jumpshooting but Bargs is softer than Gallo who is a pretty tough kid. Both are unreliable but hopefully Bargs reaches full potential in New York or at least repeats his good yrs in Toronto

Also Gallo lives and breathes basketball. Bargnani doesn't seem to be as passionate about the game but enjoys the a amentities that come with they game
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7/10/2013  4:21 PM
gunsnewing wrote:I think he has more upside than gallo. Can't teach 7ft jumpshooting but Bargs is softer than Gallo who is a pretty tough kid. Both are unreliable but hopefully Bargs reaches full potential in New York or at least repeats his good yrs in Toronto

Also Gallo lives and breathes basketball. Bargnani doesn't seem to be as passionate about the game but enjoys the a amentities that come with they game


Can't teach 6'10" either. Who cares about the 2 inches? It's not like Bargs plays like a big.
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7/10/2013  4:26 PM
7ft at the 3pt line is Unguardable see Dirk
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7/10/2013  4:35 PM
gunsnewing wrote:7ft at the 3pt line is Unguardable see Dirk

The percentage you make, not your height, indicates how guardable you are.
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7/10/2013  4:40 PM
my elementary teacher taught me both feet and inches. So that's a myth that you can't teach 6'10 or 7'0.

If you look at their first few years they were very comparable. Roll changes plus injuries have seperated them, imo.

Last year Camby was supposed to be a good signings but now he is gone. No one nows how the season will shake out.
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7/10/2013  4:42 PM
gunsnewing wrote:7ft at the 3pt line is Unguardable see Dirk
Yeah and I think he is closer to 7"1. There are some clips where he just drops the ball over the top of his man to the cutter.
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7/10/2013  4:42 PM
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martin wrote:
JayNYC wrote:I might be totally off base here, an overracting Knicks fan... but it's hard to NOT feel like the "jilted lover" when seeing other free agent targets sign elsewhere for monies comparable to what NYK can offer!

which players are these?

Off top, one stand out was Darren Collison, he signed I believe a 2yr deal worth 1.8 mil to the Clippers. Omri Casspi signed for the vets min. Earl Watson.. Just a few players that I can recall. I'm sure there are others!

Darren Collinson? Omri Casspi? Earl Watson?
Are you going to start crying about Moz preferring Russia next? Tell the truth, are you a closet reactionary Linsanite?

Some people don't want the pressure, and manage to realize that much about themselves right off the bat. I'm sure 20 and 30 year old millionaire ball players who have agents running their accounting are worried as much as UK posters are about Dolan's business acumen. Last I checked, his money is the same color as any other idiot owner.

NYC is a zoo, the media is the worst on it's own teams than any others on the entire planet and the fans, short of Spike, just might crucify you as soon as invite you to a barbecue. Just read some of the posts in here.
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7/10/2013  4:44 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:7ft at the 3pt line is Unguardable see Dirk

The percentage you make, not your height, indicates how guardable you are.

well over the last 4 yrs Bargs shot 39 % and Dirk 36 % on P&P. That's just one area though. I think the spot ups #s maybe higher too
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7/10/2013  4:48 PM
Also Bargs is a better 3pt shooter while playing with far more inferior talent than Gallo
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7/10/2013  4:51 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:7ft at the 3pt line is Unguardable see Dirk

The percentage you make, not your height, indicates how guardable you are.

well over the last 4 yrs Bargs shot 39 % and Dirk 36 % on P&P. That's just one area though. I think the spot ups #s maybe higher too

Exactly! What does Gallo shoot 31-32%? Who is a better 3pt shooter? Granted Gallo is 6'10 but less efficient from 3 than bargnani
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7/10/2013  4:54 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/10/2013  5:02 PM
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dk7th wrote:there is an appeal to living in nyc but there is little appeal to work for a shabbily-run company and an owner as vile as dolan is. if men of good character recognize this and opt to play elsewhere then really they can't be blamed.

i am pretty sure the mystique of playing at msg gets a wee bit old when a team chronically underachieves at best or just plain stinks at worst.

Hasn't stopped free agents signing for the NBA's worst owner, Donald Sterling.

Knick fans have been telling folk lore camp fire stories for yrs that no one will play for the Clippers, they will lose Blake Griffin and CP3 in free agency...Sterling is a Cheap Scumbag Owner and they will always be second rate to the Lakers....


I think people need to look themselves in the mirror and ask..."have I adjusted to the times we're living in or am I living Back Into The Future"
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7/10/2013  4:56 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/10/2013  4:56 PM
Vmart wrote:
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Nalod wrote:
Collison went home to LA. Natural appeal.

When has Knicks been sexy to play for where players take a pay cut to come?

When has Checetts, Grunfeld, Layden, Isiah, Donnie or Grunny had players come becaue of NYC? When has a plyaer really ever said what a great organization the knicks are?

Vin Baker?

Stat came for the money and the bright lights. Melo wanted in but not sure either had to be "sold".

Felton wanted to be here but was it for the "Sex" or a good opportunity to play?

This just screams I can't believe those mofos game that contract.

Yeah I'll never forget Camby's comments on when we acquired him last yr...In a nutshell...."WTF can't believe I'm still collecting checks"
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7/10/2013  4:56 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/10/2013  4:57 PM
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yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:7ft at the 3pt line is Unguardable see Dirk

The percentage you make, not your height, indicates how guardable you are.

well over the last 4 yrs Bargs shot 39 % and Dirk 36 % on P&P. That's just one area though. I think the spot ups #s maybe higher too

Exactly! What does Gallo shoot 31-32%? Who is a better 3pt shooter? Granted Gallo is 6'10 but less efficient from 3 than bargnani

At least look up the numbers before posting. You're way off.

Regardless, the biggest differences between Bargs and Gallo are passing ability to draw fouls.
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7/10/2013  4:58 PM
What are they I can't look them up now but I don't think I'm that far off unless you are only basing this on Bargs last 2 seasons where he was injured and barely played
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7/10/2013  5:30 PM
gunsnewing wrote:What are they I can't look them up now but I don't think I'm that far off unless you are only basing this on Bargs last 2 seasons where he was injured and barely played

You were off by a wide margin for Gallo. He's a 37% 3 point shooter (which is actually a little higher than Bargs).
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7/10/2013  5:46 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/10/2013  6:01 PM
jrodmc wrote:
JayNYC wrote:
martin wrote:
JayNYC wrote:I might be totally off base here, an overracting Knicks fan... but it's hard to NOT feel like the "jilted lover" when seeing other free agent targets sign elsewhere for monies comparable to what NYK can offer!

which players are these?

Off top, one stand out was Darren Collison, he signed I believe a 2yr deal worth 1.8 mil to the Clippers. Omri Casspi signed for the vets min. Earl Watson.. Just a few players that I can recall. I'm sure there are others!

Darren Collinson? Omri Casspi? Earl Watson?
Are you going to start crying about Moz preferring Russia next? Tell the truth, are you a closet reactionary Linsanite?

Some people don't want the pressure, and manage to realize that much about themselves right off the bat. I'm sure 20 and 30 year old millionaire ball players who have agents running their accounting are worried as much as UK posters are about Dolan's business acumen. Last I checked, his money is the same color as any other idiot owner.

NYC is a zoo, the media is the worst on it's own teams than any others on the entire planet and the fans, short of Spike, just might crucify you as soon as invite you to a barbecue. Just read some of the posts in here.

You missed the point of this post fam lol, but that's neither here nor there... I can't tell if that was a rhetorical question and I ain't even gon bite the bait on the sarcasm.. I'll simply answer with this: Never liked Mozgov nor was I/or have I ever been big on Jeremy Lin! That said, Darren Collison would've been a viable option at point guard. The reason I created this post was merely to point out the inefficiency of relying on FREE Agency as the sole means of rebuilding/retooling a winning roster. It is a flawed approach, especially when considering that NYK lacks "appeal" as proven by lesser level talents opting to play elsewhere. Your money is only as good as the product purchased. Your last statement about Zoo York and media scrutiny speaks to the lacking appeal for NY, it justifies my stance.

Inhale deep like the words of my breath/ I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death-- Circa 1994 Nasty Nas: NY State of Mind
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7/10/2013  6:28 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/10/2013  6:29 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:What are they I can't look them up now but I don't think I'm that far off unless you are only basing this on Bargs last 2 seasons where he was injured and barely played

You were off by a wide margin for Gallo. He's a 37% 3 point shooter (which is actually a little higher than Bargs).

Career or last yr? And how many attempts
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7/10/2013  6:50 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:What are they I can't look them up now but I don't think I'm that far off unless you are only basing this on Bargs last 2 seasons where he was injured and barely played

You were off by a wide margin for Gallo. He's a 37% 3 point shooter (which is actually a little higher than Bargs).

Career or last yr?


both are 37%.
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