3G4G wrote:

VDesai wrote:The Knicks couldnt have waited on the Barg trade for two reasons:

1) There were reports that GS and a couple other teams had offers out for Bargs
2) Even if the prior wasn't true, than the Raptors would have amnestied him on Day 1, which would've exposed him to a bidding process where some other team would've signed him to a bigger deal than we could've offered because of our lack of cap space.

If we really wanted him, we had to act prior the official opening of free agency to make sure we got him.

That was Masai duping the most interested team in giving up picks for his trash. He did this to us with the New Jersey bs...so there's no way I'm buying that.

You say to Masai we'll give up some picks but you're gonna have to wait until the moratorium passes before we make a final decision. Masai would have waited while at the same continuing to increase the perceived value of his asset.

Let's say Masai decides to make a different deal, in what way, form, or fashion does it hurt us if we're still willing to move Camby/Novak/3 picks for other available players?

I really get sick and tired of the mindset that deal we made was..THE ONLY OPTION OR DEAL WE COULD MAKE!!!! Please let's get to the day when we're operating from a position of strength instead of vulnerability, otherwise this crap is never gonna end.

Amen

3G4G wrote:

Uptown wrote:

tkf wrote:as Berman said, we have nothing to offer Boston and I am sure Boston doesn't want rondo still in their division..

I wonder how felton feels about his teamate openly campaigning for another player to take his spot...

Where's the direct quote of Melo asking for Rondo?

Ahhh we don't want to believe Melo would want a player of Rondo's caliber on this squad and that he told someone close to him this.... but we believed mythical stories of toasting on a yacht trying to put Super Teams together?

I think it's true and I think it's coming from none other than...his agency

It's possible, but again this is Mark Berman. My response was directed to your boy who loves to take shots at Melo at every turn. Before jumping to conclusions and taking a shot at Melo, I asked your boy to show me a direct quote first....

CrushAlot wrote:I am not sure what friends of Melo Berman has as his source. It might have been something as simple as Melo being asked if he would like the Knicks to get Rondo.

Berman to someone vaguely associated with Melo, met him in club once: Do you think Melo wants Rondo on team if Boston offered him?
Random dude: I would expect so.

BERMAN BREAKING NEWS: "Melo expects Knicks to pursue Rondo"

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:I am not sure what friends of Melo Berman has as his source. It might have been something as simple as Melo being asked if he would like the Knicks to get Rondo.

Berman to someone vaguely associated with Melo, met him in club once: Do you think Melo wants Rondo on team if Boston offered him?
Random dude: I would expect so.

BERMAN BREAKING NEWS: "Melo expects Knicks to pursue Rondo"

you give Bermanbury too much credit

3G4G wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:As much as I would like Rondo I wouldn't trade Shumpert too risky. I'm in favor of the 2015 plan but the question is are the Knicks?

Risky how?

Losing a young player with star potential for a pg who wants the ball in his hands and is moody. Too play with a volume scorer who wants the ball in his hands. See Jeremy Lin. Rondo is very moody and disruptive when he doesn't get his way. I rather wait til 2015 and actually hold on to one of our homegrown players. We've waited 13yrs we can wait another 2. Unless Melo signs for $25mil+ and amares expiring is used on some more castoffs with bloated contracts

Unless Melo has an epiphany of sorts and plays off the ball. I would take the chance but not at the expense of shumpert

3G4G wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Billups does not dominate the ball. He is not the quintisential pg in that he's more about keeping the ball moving. Which suits Melo because it winds up in his hands most possessions. At least billups has it mastered unlike felton

Billups did dominate the ball....in his prime and he called his own shot a lot. Hence he finished higher than Melo in MVP voting when they played together. Now the Billups of today doesn't dominate the ball. George Karl said it was one of his favorite seasons coaching, because Billups didn't allow the team to waste possessions as he made the right players got the ball when they should have the ball. Melo got the ball less with Billups which would be the case with Rondo which would benefit us the most as long as the team is balanced at the other positions.

We wouldn't acquire Rondo to maximize Melo it would be to maximize the Knicks and that's a day I'm looking forward to although I know it's light yrs away.

EXACTLY... MAXIMIZE THE KNICKS!

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:I am not sure what friends of Melo Berman has as his source. It might have been something as simple as Melo being asked if he would like the Knicks to get Rondo.

Berman to someone vaguely associated with Melo, met him in club once: Do you think Melo wants Rondo on team if Boston offered him?
Random dude: I would expect so.

BERMAN BREAKING NEWS: "Melo expects Knicks to pursue Rondo"

That person that met Melo once was probably Berman himself. Complete trash up there with Melo going to LA. These guys just make up stuff and attach an unnamed source and sell it as news.