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callmened
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7/9/2013  2:19 PM
Im not so sure about Solomon Hill. Yes hes impressive but im not sure if that will translate to the regular season. On the other hand, Olynck looks great and i think he'll have a good regular season. I apologize because i CANT articulate WHY i feel that way. its just a feeling i have.
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7/9/2013  5:46 PM
Watching Oladipo right now what really gets your attention is how whenever his man strips the ball from him or scores, he comes right back with a three or steals the ball back. He did it every time he got showed up. You can take that too far, but so far he is delivering.
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7/9/2013  6:16 PM
Varnado for Miami is no joke. He's going to give them a big boost defensively next season.
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7/9/2013  6:24 PM
Announcers say its not a given that Varnado will get picked up. We could really use his D in the paint and he has pretty good court vision for a big man.
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7/9/2013  6:26 PM
callmened wrote:Im not so sure about Solomon Hill. Yes hes impressive but im not sure if that will translate to the regular season. On the other hand, Olynck looks great and i think he'll have a good regular season. I apologize because i CANT articulate WHY i feel that way. its just a feeling i have.

Hill will not get anywhere near the same minutes as Olynck Indiana will be a tough core to break

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7/9/2013  7:02 PM
Apparently Plumlee had a great game against Varnado the other day, so he might not be consistent enough.
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7/9/2013  7:35 PM
Olynyk is showing a lot of skill. This dude is gonna be a really good NBA player.
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7/9/2013  8:43 PM
GustavBahler wrote:Watching Oladipo right now what really gets your attention is how whenever his man strips the ball from him or scores, he comes right back with a three or steals the ball back. He did it every time he got showed up. You can take that too far, but so far he is delivering.

Every piece from a coach or scout about Oladipo raved about him.They all talked about how hard he competes, his leadership ability and how hard he works. He has fantastic athletic ability and is already a lock down defender. His offensive game needs work but he will get there

Did he play PG at all

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7/9/2013  9:11 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/9/2013  9:12 PM
Jmpasq wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Watching Oladipo right now what really gets your attention is how whenever his man strips the ball from him or scores, he comes right back with a three or steals the ball back. He did it every time he got showed up. You can take that too far, but so far he is delivering.

Every piece from a coach or scout about Oladipo raved about him.They all talked about how hard he competes, his leadership ability and how hard he works. He has fantastic athletic ability and is already a lock down defender. His offensive game needs work but he will get there

Did he play PG at all

That's pretty much all he's been playing and doing a good job. Olapido has been blowing right by defenders and finding teammates under the rim, on the wing etc.. I don't know if they are going to convert him to a PG but he looks right now with time that he could handle it, at least spot minutes.

Olapido does get butterfingers sometimes when he gets near the rim, but its early. These SL games most of the time look like one big clusterfunk, so I think we would have to watch a few preseason games to get a better idea of how he would handle playing PG full time. I don't know what their long term plans are for him. This may be just temporary.

Its incredible how the Magic are able decade after decade to reload the way they do despite having superstars come and go. Speaks to the value of long term thinking.
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7/10/2013  12:24 PM
It'll be interesting to see what the Nets have in store for Toko Shengelia -- will he be part of their plans this year or will he be a guy that gets forgotten about and becomes a FA next year? I like this dude's size and talent level.
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7/10/2013  12:39 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Watching Oladipo right now what really gets your attention is how whenever his man strips the ball from him or scores, he comes right back with a three or steals the ball back. He did it every time he got showed up. You can take that too far, but so far he is delivering.

Every piece from a coach or scout about Oladipo raved about him.They all talked about how hard he competes, his leadership ability and how hard he works. He has fantastic athletic ability and is already a lock down defender. His offensive game needs work but he will get there

Did he play PG at all

That's pretty much all he's been playing and doing a good job. Olapido has been blowing right by defenders and finding teammates under the rim, on the wing etc.. I don't know if they are going to convert him to a PG but he looks right now with time that he could handle it, at least spot minutes.

Olapido does get butterfingers sometimes when he gets near the rim, but its early. These SL games most of the time look like one big clusterfunk, so I think we would have to watch a few preseason games to get a better idea of how he would handle playing PG full time. I don't know what their long term plans are for him. This may be just temporary.

Its incredible how the Magic are able decade after decade to reload the way they do despite having superstars come and go. Speaks to the value of long term thinking.


This is the star..the fact he's transitioning to this position and for the most part looks better than half the backups in the NBA is telling.
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7/10/2013  12:41 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/10/2013  1:39 PM
I wonder if the plan is to give Shumpert heavy PG mins. in Summer League and then if he shows signs that he can handle it, to then transition him into more of a PG next year...With Felton & Shump at the point, it should open up minutes for THJ to play behind JR and also open up mins for Leslie behind Melo possibly if Shump doesn't have to play 3.

One option to replace Copeland's long range stroke: 6'8" 235 Tim Abromaitis. On Boston's SL squad -- not doing too much from what I've seen so far -- not forcing the issue, seems content to move the ball, plus I bet his teammates may not be completely familiar with him and how to use him (he's not getting set up properly to use his strengths).. I really liked him at Notre Dame. GREAT 3-pt shooter -- 43% 2 years in a row at ND before hurting himself, then shot the 3 over 40% last year in France. Debatable whether or not he's a true NBA player but his 3-pt shooting is definitely for real. Plays closer to Copeland than Novak -- like Cope, Abro can put it on the floor a little and he'll compete for rebounds too. He could really help us space the floor in certain matchups. Just a thought if we're even looking for a pure shooter to replace Cope, if this Ron Artest thing goes nowhere, if Shawne Williams wants too much money again, etc..
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7/10/2013  3:35 PM
ehhh...i watched abromatis a lot too...was never impressed. on the other hand, i really like vander blue on houston
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7/10/2013  5:30 PM
Give Steve Adams credit. He looked much more comfortable and every part of a late lotto pick. Olynck easy easy MVP. If there is a better nba player from this draft I will be surprised. McWilliams has a lot of work to do. He is not ready to take over an nba team. Okc. I think they will be better this year as they inc. Jackson and lAmb. Overall. It was. No and everyone else from this draft. No one stood out consistently like him. Even today made every 2 pt shot he took + 10 reb
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7/10/2013  6:14 PM
i'm trying to pay attention to summer league games now....Orlando's league is boring...maybe its the camera angle...game look like its being played in West 4th Park....Games are horrible to look at. Everyone is pushing and shoving. Everyone is forcing everything. Just ugly
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7/10/2013  6:25 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Give Steve Adams credit. He looked much more comfortable and every part of a late lotto pick. Olynck easy easy MVP. If there is a better nba player from this draft I will be surprised. McWilliams has a lot of work to do. He is not ready to take over an nba team. Okc. I think they will be better this year as they inc. Jackson and lAmb. Overall. It was. No and everyone else from this draft. No one stood out consistently like him. Even today made every 2 pt shot he took + 10 reb

Even over Dipo? I haven't seen many games so I can't tell. It looks like Kelly will have to get a little stronger from the little I've seen, but the kid can score. Kinda reminded me of bargs. I think Jackson on OKC has looked the most polished from the little I've seen.

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BigDaddyG wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Give Steve Adams credit. He looked much more comfortable and every part of a late lotto pick. Olynck easy easy MVP. If there is a better nba player from this draft I will be surprised. McWilliams has a lot of work to do. He is not ready to take over an nba team. Okc. I think they will be better this year as they inc. Jackson and lAmb. Overall. It was. No and everyone else from this draft. No one stood out consistently like him. Even today made every 2 pt shot he took + 10 reb

Even over Dipo? I haven't seen many games so I can't tell. It looks like Kelly will have to get a little stronger from the little I've seen, but the kid can score. Kinda reminded me of bargs. I think Jackson on OKC has looked the most polished from the little I've seen.

Ko by far. Jackson and lamb were already drafted. Im talking this year

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7/10/2013  6:46 PM
If you guys want to check out some video from the Summer League teams practice you can go here.

http://knicksnow.com/videos/3673/summer-league-report-knicks-prepare-for-friday-s-opener#.Ud3jy_l_58F
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BRIGGS wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Give Steve Adams credit. He looked much more comfortable and every part of a late lotto pick. Olynck easy easy MVP. If there is a better nba player from this draft I will be surprised. McWilliams has a lot of work to do. He is not ready to take over an nba team. Okc. I think they will be better this year as they inc. Jackson and lAmb. Overall. It was. No and everyone else from this draft. No one stood out consistently like him. Even today made every 2 pt shot he took + 10 reb

Even over Dipo? I haven't seen many games so I can't tell. It looks like Kelly will have to get a little stronger from the little I've seen, but the kid can score. Kinda reminded me of bargs. I think Jackson on OKC has looked the most polished from the little I've seen.

Ko by far. Jackson and lamb were already drafted. Im talking this year

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7/10/2013  8:36 PM
I had the same feeling trying to watch. Guess they are making it a lower quality production

EnySpree wrote:i'm trying to pay attention to summer league games now....Orlando's league is boring...maybe its the camera angle...game look like its being played in West 4th Park....Games are horrible to look at. Everyone is pushing and shoving. Everyone is forcing everything. Just ugly
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