Bonn1997 wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:they wanted the hot iron on bargs,

payed a price that tells me they expect him to play big part in team,

so they feel confident he will contribute, and if he contributes something in the ballpark of 1 or 2 years ago, then this is solid and the picks traded i do not worry about,

You are missing the point. This discussion is about the Knicks, AGAIN, not maximizing their assets. We wouldn't have needed to include the picks, at least the first rounder, if we were using both Camby and a 2014/2015 expiring contract from Milwaukee. Our leverage, at that point, would've been the ability to save the Raptors alot of money, which should've been strong enough incentive for a question mark like Bargnani. Having traded away our picks, it forces us to effectively rebuild in one offseason as opposed to several since we can't afford the PR nightmare of surrendering a 2016 lottery pick. That kind of situation is too reminiscent of Walsh in 2010, following the McGrady trade. The end result of that was Amare and look at what he was just 1 season later.

damn that really sucks,

if bargs drops 15/4 on 40% treys will you forgive and forget?

You talking about 4 rbs per game as a PF/C? Please tell me the 4 refers to blocks or assists.

Bonn for this trade to makes sense and be a positive for the Knicks--we need to treat Bargs more like a traditional 5 or high scoring 4--where they are dedicated to more low post play that outside. They are responsible for rebounding the ball and taking higher % shots. The only way I owuld do this is by making the most of a guy who is 7-0 260. Hes got nice skills inside and he shoots FTs at 85%. So he needs to be the inside out man. Go into Bargs and let him create and if he has nothing--move the ball around. Its ok to pop out for occasional 3's or mid range but a man that big who does not have footspeed needs to play in the post. It works for Dirk because he has more agility and less body weight. Bargs is a bigger guy--he needs to take better shots we need that low post offense and he needs to take responsibility to rebound the bal. If we play him like a sf we will SCK bad. We already have a volume 3 we need an efficient 5 who can give us 20+ in the low block grab 8-9 rebounds and shoots 50%

It's going to be year 8 this dude. If he was going to be all of that as a "big", why has it taken this long? Do you think the European Eddy Curry is worth draft picks that could potentially force this franchise's hand and reset the mediocrity treadmill?

"European Eddy Curry" lol!

Lol, you heard it here first.

I think as Knick fans we are all pretty badly wounded by the bonehead moves our front office keeps making. I still get Allan Houston contract flashbacks. Shudder.