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7/5/2013  12:50 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/46447/reaction-pablo-prigioni-to-re-sign-with-knicks

Point guard Pablo Prigioni agreed to a three-year deal with the New York Knicks, his agent said Thursday.

Prigioni's contract will start at about $1.5 million, agent George Bass said, but it can increase to $2 million with incentives.

Here's a look at what it means for the Knicks, and what's next for New York in free agency:

[+] EnlargePablo Prigioni
Jim McIsaac/Getty ImagesThe Knicks' 13-game winning streak last season coincided with Pablo Prigioni being promoted to the starting lineup.
Point guard stability: Jason Kidd's retirement made signing Prigioni one of the Knicks' top offseason priorities.

Now that Prigioni's back, Mike Woodson can use the two-point-guard lineup -- featuring Prigioni and Raymond Felton -- that he was fond of last season.

Prigioni's presence will allow Felton to move off the ball and become more of a scorer than a distributor.

Prigioni, 36, also brings a lot on the defensive end of the floor. The end-to-end pressure he puts on opposing guards can disrupt and delay an opponent's offense.

Part of Prigioni's value also lies in his ability to keep the ball moving. As Chris Herring of the Wall Street Journal adeptly points out, the Knicks' ball movement improved markedly when Prigioni was on the floor in the playoffs -- and Carmelo Anthony was one of the main beneficiaries. According to Herring, Anthony hit 43 percent of his 3-pointers with Prigioni on the floor but knocked down just 26 percent of his attempts when Prigioni was on the bench.

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7/5/2013  12:56 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/5/2013  1:01 PM
GustavBahler wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/46447/reaction-pablo-prigioni-to-re-sign-with-knicks

Point guard Pablo Prigioni agreed to a three-year deal with the New York Knicks, his agent said Thursday.

Prigioni's contract will start at about $1.5 million, agent George Bass said, but it can increase to $2 million with incentives.

Here's a look at what it means for the Knicks, and what's next for New York in free agency:

[+] EnlargePablo Prigioni
Jim McIsaac/Getty ImagesThe Knicks' 13-game winning streak last season coincided with Pablo Prigioni being promoted to the starting lineup.
Point guard stability: Jason Kidd's retirement made signing Prigioni one of the Knicks' top offseason priorities.

Now that Prigioni's back, Mike Woodson can use the two-point-guard lineup -- featuring Prigioni and Raymond Felton -- that he was fond of last season.

Prigioni's presence will allow Felton to move off the ball and become more of a scorer than a distributor.

Prigioni, 36, also brings a lot on the defensive end of the floor. The end-to-end pressure he puts on opposing guards can disrupt and delay an opponent's offense.

Part of Prigioni's value also lies in his ability to keep the ball moving. As Chris Herring of the Wall Street Journal adeptly points out, the Knicks' ball movement improved markedly when Prigioni was on the floor in the playoffs -- and Carmelo Anthony was one of the main beneficiaries. According to Herring, Anthony hit 43 percent of his 3-pointers with Prigioni on the floor but knocked down just 26 percent of his attempts when Prigioni was on the bench.

There are actual Knicks fans here who watch the games..This piece is bull..Prigs plays defense..Please stop trying to attribute some phantom stat that no one can track to credit Prigs with..They did it all year with Kidd...

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7/5/2013  1:00 PM
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GustavBahler wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/46447/reaction-pablo-prigioni-to-re-sign-with-knicks

Point guard Pablo Prigioni agreed to a three-year deal with the New York Knicks, his agent said Thursday.

Prigioni's contract will start at about $1.5 million, agent George Bass said, but it can increase to $2 million with incentives.

Here's a look at what it means for the Knicks, and what's next for New York in free agency:

[+] EnlargePablo Prigioni
Jim McIsaac/Getty ImagesThe Knicks' 13-game winning streak last season coincided with Pablo Prigioni being promoted to the starting lineup.
Point guard stability: Jason Kidd's retirement made signing Prigioni one of the Knicks' top offseason priorities.

Now that Prigioni's back, Mike Woodson can use the two-point-guard lineup -- featuring Prigioni and Raymond Felton -- that he was fond of last season.

Prigioni's presence will allow Felton to move off the ball and become more of a scorer than a distributor.

Prigioni, 36, also brings a lot on the defensive end of the floor. The end-to-end pressure he puts on opposing guards can disrupt and delay an opponent's offense.

Part of Prigioni's value also lies in his ability to keep the ball moving. As Chris Herring of the Wall Street Journal adeptly points out, the Knicks' ball movement improved markedly when Prigioni was on the floor in the playoffs -- and Carmelo Anthony was one of the main beneficiaries. According to Herring, Anthony hit 43 percent of his 3-pointers with Prigioni on the floor but knocked down just 26 percent of his attempts when Prigioni was on the bench.

There are actual Knicks fans here who watch the games..This piece is bull..Prigs plays defense..

That time of the month? Exactly what about that stat is Bull? He's a better distributor than Felton, if you watched the games you would know that. Its why Prigs was inserted into the starting lineup as PG and the Knicks went on a big win streak.. You take everything as a slight on Felton, grow up.

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7/5/2013  1:07 PM
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holfresh wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/46447/reaction-pablo-prigioni-to-re-sign-with-knicks

Point guard Pablo Prigioni agreed to a three-year deal with the New York Knicks, his agent said Thursday.

Prigioni's contract will start at about $1.5 million, agent George Bass said, but it can increase to $2 million with incentives.

Here's a look at what it means for the Knicks, and what's next for New York in free agency:

[+] EnlargePablo Prigioni
Jim McIsaac/Getty ImagesThe Knicks' 13-game winning streak last season coincided with Pablo Prigioni being promoted to the starting lineup.
Point guard stability: Jason Kidd's retirement made signing Prigioni one of the Knicks' top offseason priorities.

Now that Prigioni's back, Mike Woodson can use the two-point-guard lineup -- featuring Prigioni and Raymond Felton -- that he was fond of last season.

Prigioni's presence will allow Felton to move off the ball and become more of a scorer than a distributor.

Prigioni, 36, also brings a lot on the defensive end of the floor. The end-to-end pressure he puts on opposing guards can disrupt and delay an opponent's offense.

Part of Prigioni's value also lies in his ability to keep the ball moving. As Chris Herring of the Wall Street Journal adeptly points out, the Knicks' ball movement improved markedly when Prigioni was on the floor in the playoffs -- and Carmelo Anthony was one of the main beneficiaries. According to Herring, Anthony hit 43 percent of his 3-pointers with Prigioni on the floor but knocked down just 26 percent of his attempts when Prigioni was on the bench.

There are actual Knicks fans here who watch the games..This piece is bull..Prigs plays defense..

That time of the month? Exactly what about that stat is Bull? He's a better distributor than Felton, if you watched the games you would know that. Its why Prigs was inserted into the starting lineup as PG and the Knicks went on a big win streak.. You take everything as a slight on Felton, grow up.

Do yourself a favor because I did..Look at the actual amount of mins played by Prigs during those games that he has been credited for winning..

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7/5/2013  1:12 PM
Melo is better because of Prigs..Please stop..
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7/5/2013  1:14 PM
holfresh wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
holfresh wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/46447/reaction-pablo-prigioni-to-re-sign-with-knicks

Point guard Pablo Prigioni agreed to a three-year deal with the New York Knicks, his agent said Thursday.

Prigioni's contract will start at about $1.5 million, agent George Bass said, but it can increase to $2 million with incentives.

Here's a look at what it means for the Knicks, and what's next for New York in free agency:

[+] EnlargePablo Prigioni
Jim McIsaac/Getty ImagesThe Knicks' 13-game winning streak last season coincided with Pablo Prigioni being promoted to the starting lineup.
Point guard stability: Jason Kidd's retirement made signing Prigioni one of the Knicks' top offseason priorities.

Now that Prigioni's back, Mike Woodson can use the two-point-guard lineup -- featuring Prigioni and Raymond Felton -- that he was fond of last season.

Prigioni's presence will allow Felton to move off the ball and become more of a scorer than a distributor.

Prigioni, 36, also brings a lot on the defensive end of the floor. The end-to-end pressure he puts on opposing guards can disrupt and delay an opponent's offense.

Part of Prigioni's value also lies in his ability to keep the ball moving. As Chris Herring of the Wall Street Journal adeptly points out, the Knicks' ball movement improved markedly when Prigioni was on the floor in the playoffs -- and Carmelo Anthony was one of the main beneficiaries. According to Herring, Anthony hit 43 percent of his 3-pointers with Prigioni on the floor but knocked down just 26 percent of his attempts when Prigioni was on the bench.

There are actual Knicks fans here who watch the games..This piece is bull..Prigs plays defense..

That time of the month? Exactly what about that stat is Bull? He's a better distributor than Felton, if you watched the games you would know that. Its why Prigs was inserted into the starting lineup as PG and the Knicks went on a big win streak.. You take everything as a slight on Felton, grow up.

Do yourself a favor because I did..Look at the actual amount of mins played by Prigs during those games that he has been credited for winning..

I don't have to look anything up, I watch the games, Prigs moves the ball better. I didn't credit him for singlehandedly winning those games. I do credit him for better ball movement and allowing Felton to play to his strengths.

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7/5/2013  1:16 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/5/2013  1:17 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
holfresh wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
holfresh wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/46447/reaction-pablo-prigioni-to-re-sign-with-knicks

Point guard Pablo Prigioni agreed to a three-year deal with the New York Knicks, his agent said Thursday.

Prigioni's contract will start at about $1.5 million, agent George Bass said, but it can increase to $2 million with incentives.

Here's a look at what it means for the Knicks, and what's next for New York in free agency:

[+] EnlargePablo Prigioni
Jim McIsaac/Getty ImagesThe Knicks' 13-game winning streak last season coincided with Pablo Prigioni being promoted to the starting lineup.
Point guard stability: Jason Kidd's retirement made signing Prigioni one of the Knicks' top offseason priorities.

Now that Prigioni's back, Mike Woodson can use the two-point-guard lineup -- featuring Prigioni and Raymond Felton -- that he was fond of last season.

Prigioni's presence will allow Felton to move off the ball and become more of a scorer than a distributor.

Prigioni, 36, also brings a lot on the defensive end of the floor. The end-to-end pressure he puts on opposing guards can disrupt and delay an opponent's offense.

Part of Prigioni's value also lies in his ability to keep the ball moving. As Chris Herring of the Wall Street Journal adeptly points out, the Knicks' ball movement improved markedly when Prigioni was on the floor in the playoffs -- and Carmelo Anthony was one of the main beneficiaries. According to Herring, Anthony hit 43 percent of his 3-pointers with Prigioni on the floor but knocked down just 26 percent of his attempts when Prigioni was on the bench.

There are actual Knicks fans here who watch the games..This piece is bull..Prigs plays defense..

That time of the month? Exactly what about that stat is Bull? He's a better distributor than Felton, if you watched the games you would know that. Its why Prigs was inserted into the starting lineup as PG and the Knicks went on a big win streak.. You take everything as a slight on Felton, grow up.

Do yourself a favor because I did..Look at the actual amount of mins played by Prigs during those games that he has been credited for winning..

I don't have to look anything up, I watch the games, Prigs moves the ball better. I didn't credit him for singlehandedly winning those games. I do credit him for better ball movement and allowing Felton to play to his strengths.

The article credits him for more than ball movement ..

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7/5/2013  1:18 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/5/2013  1:21 PM
Since ai looked it up..During the win steak he was registering less the 15 mins a game and in a lot if cases, less than 10...He was barely getting burn early in the season when the Knicks played well with ball movement led by Felton..Felton was MVP of the Boston series..Doc Rivers said the difference was Felton getting in the lane..
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7/5/2013  1:21 PM
holfresh wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
holfresh wrote:
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holfresh wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/46447/reaction-pablo-prigioni-to-re-sign-with-knicks

Point guard Pablo Prigioni agreed to a three-year deal with the New York Knicks, his agent said Thursday.

Prigioni's contract will start at about $1.5 million, agent George Bass said, but it can increase to $2 million with incentives.

Here's a look at what it means for the Knicks, and what's next for New York in free agency:

[+] EnlargePablo Prigioni
Jim McIsaac/Getty ImagesThe Knicks' 13-game winning streak last season coincided with Pablo Prigioni being promoted to the starting lineup.
Point guard stability: Jason Kidd's retirement made signing Prigioni one of the Knicks' top offseason priorities.

Now that Prigioni's back, Mike Woodson can use the two-point-guard lineup -- featuring Prigioni and Raymond Felton -- that he was fond of last season.

Prigioni's presence will allow Felton to move off the ball and become more of a scorer than a distributor.

Prigioni, 36, also brings a lot on the defensive end of the floor. The end-to-end pressure he puts on opposing guards can disrupt and delay an opponent's offense.

Part of Prigioni's value also lies in his ability to keep the ball moving. As Chris Herring of the Wall Street Journal adeptly points out, the Knicks' ball movement improved markedly when Prigioni was on the floor in the playoffs -- and Carmelo Anthony was one of the main beneficiaries. According to Herring, Anthony hit 43 percent of his 3-pointers with Prigioni on the floor but knocked down just 26 percent of his attempts when Prigioni was on the bench.

There are actual Knicks fans here who watch the games..This piece is bull..Prigs plays defense..

That time of the month? Exactly what about that stat is Bull? He's a better distributor than Felton, if you watched the games you would know that. Its why Prigs was inserted into the starting lineup as PG and the Knicks went on a big win streak.. You take everything as a slight on Felton, grow up.

Do yourself a favor because I did..Look at the actual amount of mins played by Prigs during those games that he has been credited for winning..

I don't have to look anything up, I watch the games, Prigs moves the ball better. I didn't credit him for singlehandedly winning those games. I do credit him for better ball movement and allowing Felton to play to his strengths.

Fhe article credits him for more than ball movement ..

I understand that, but you're visceral reaction to my posting that stat makes it sound like he is only here for defense. If I was trying to downplay his defense I would have just quoted the part in bold. I bolded it because I thought it was an interesting fact. Didn't know that it would send you over the deep end. Sorry I lost my temper holfresh but you weren't exactly diplomatic yourself.

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7/5/2013  1:24 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
holfresh wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
holfresh wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
holfresh wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/46447/reaction-pablo-prigioni-to-re-sign-with-knicks

Point guard Pablo Prigioni agreed to a three-year deal with the New York Knicks, his agent said Thursday.

Prigioni's contract will start at about $1.5 million, agent George Bass said, but it can increase to $2 million with incentives.

Here's a look at what it means for the Knicks, and what's next for New York in free agency:

[+] EnlargePablo Prigioni
Jim McIsaac/Getty ImagesThe Knicks' 13-game winning streak last season coincided with Pablo Prigioni being promoted to the starting lineup.
Point guard stability: Jason Kidd's retirement made signing Prigioni one of the Knicks' top offseason priorities.

Now that Prigioni's back, Mike Woodson can use the two-point-guard lineup -- featuring Prigioni and Raymond Felton -- that he was fond of last season.

Prigioni's presence will allow Felton to move off the ball and become more of a scorer than a distributor.

Prigioni, 36, also brings a lot on the defensive end of the floor. The end-to-end pressure he puts on opposing guards can disrupt and delay an opponent's offense.

Part of Prigioni's value also lies in his ability to keep the ball moving. As Chris Herring of the Wall Street Journal adeptly points out, the Knicks' ball movement improved markedly when Prigioni was on the floor in the playoffs -- and Carmelo Anthony was one of the main beneficiaries. According to Herring, Anthony hit 43 percent of his 3-pointers with Prigioni on the floor but knocked down just 26 percent of his attempts when Prigioni was on the bench.

There are actual Knicks fans here who watch the games..This piece is bull..Prigs plays defense..

That time of the month? Exactly what about that stat is Bull? He's a better distributor than Felton, if you watched the games you would know that. Its why Prigs was inserted into the starting lineup as PG and the Knicks went on a big win streak.. You take everything as a slight on Felton, grow up.

Do yourself a favor because I did..Look at the actual amount of mins played by Prigs during those games that he has been credited for winning..

I don't have to look anything up, I watch the games, Prigs moves the ball better. I didn't credit him for singlehandedly winning those games. I do credit him for better ball movement and allowing Felton to play to his strengths.

Fhe article credits him for more than ball movement ..

I understand that, but you're visceral reaction to my posting that stat makes it sound like he is only here for defense. If I was trying to downplay his defense I would have just quoted the part in bold. I bolded it because I thought it was an interesting fact. Didn't know that it would send you over the deep end. Sorry I lost my temper holfresh but you weren't exactly diplomatic yourself.

I was responding to the article..I don't think u made a commentary in the post..

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7/5/2013  1:25 PM
holfresh wrote:Since ai looked it up..During the win steak he was registering less the 15 mins a game and in a lot if cases, less than 10...He was barely getting burn early in the season when the Knicks played well with ball movement led by Felton..Felton was MVP of the Boston series..Doc Rivers said the difference was Felton getting in the lane..

It wasn't just Prigs starting, offensively Felton is a much better player and at the 2 he had free reign to be more of a scorer than a distributor, they got off to a better start with prigs.

As far as the Boston series you can look back and see that I said exactly the same thing at the time, the last time was yesterday. His biggest contribution was getting to the rim when no one else could, it helped us win the series.

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7/5/2013  1:27 PM
holfresh wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
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GustavBahler wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/46447/reaction-pablo-prigioni-to-re-sign-with-knicks

Point guard Pablo Prigioni agreed to a three-year deal with the New York Knicks, his agent said Thursday.

Prigioni's contract will start at about $1.5 million, agent George Bass said, but it can increase to $2 million with incentives.

Here's a look at what it means for the Knicks, and what's next for New York in free agency:

[+] EnlargePablo Prigioni
Jim McIsaac/Getty ImagesThe Knicks' 13-game winning streak last season coincided with Pablo Prigioni being promoted to the starting lineup.
Point guard stability: Jason Kidd's retirement made signing Prigioni one of the Knicks' top offseason priorities.

Now that Prigioni's back, Mike Woodson can use the two-point-guard lineup -- featuring Prigioni and Raymond Felton -- that he was fond of last season.

Prigioni's presence will allow Felton to move off the ball and become more of a scorer than a distributor.

Prigioni, 36, also brings a lot on the defensive end of the floor. The end-to-end pressure he puts on opposing guards can disrupt and delay an opponent's offense.

Part of Prigioni's value also lies in his ability to keep the ball moving. As Chris Herring of the Wall Street Journal adeptly points out, the Knicks' ball movement improved markedly when Prigioni was on the floor in the playoffs -- and Carmelo Anthony was one of the main beneficiaries. According to Herring, Anthony hit 43 percent of his 3-pointers with Prigioni on the floor but knocked down just 26 percent of his attempts when Prigioni was on the bench.

There are actual Knicks fans here who watch the games..This piece is bull..Prigs plays defense..

That time of the month? Exactly what about that stat is Bull? He's a better distributor than Felton, if you watched the games you would know that. Its why Prigs was inserted into the starting lineup as PG and the Knicks went on a big win streak.. You take everything as a slight on Felton, grow up.

Do yourself a favor because I did..Look at the actual amount of mins played by Prigs during those games that he has been credited for winning..

I don't have to look anything up, I watch the games, Prigs moves the ball better. I didn't credit him for singlehandedly winning those games. I do credit him for better ball movement and allowing Felton to play to his strengths.

Fhe article credits him for more than ball movement ..

I understand that, but you're visceral reaction to my posting that stat makes it sound like he is only here for defense. If I was trying to downplay his defense I would have just quoted the part in bold. I bolded it because I thought it was an interesting fact. Didn't know that it would send you over the deep end. Sorry I lost my temper holfresh but you weren't exactly diplomatic yourself.

I was responding to the article..I don't think u made a commentary in the post..

I was the one who quoted it so when you say "there are actual fans who watch games" who else am I supposed to believe its directed at?

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7/5/2013  1:32 PM
I was responding to the article whether or not u posted and highlighted certain segments..But if u agree with the article then u too are wrong ..Knicks were winning with ball movement led by Felton early in the season..Prigs weren't getting much playing time ..It's revisionist history..
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7/5/2013  1:50 PM
holfresh wrote:I was responding to the article whether or not u posted and highlighted certain segments..But if u agree with the article then u too are wrong ..Knicks were winning with ball movement led by Felton early in the season..Prigs weren't getting much playing time ..It's revisionist history..

Wish you had put it that way to begin with. If that's the case I'm not sure why you included those comments about real fans who watch games. I obviously thought that stat had some merit of I wouldn't have posted it, I'm surprised you didn't take that into consideration before questioning the fandom or knowledge of anyone who would agree with it. As someone who has been a fan for more than 40 years I took exception to that comment.

As far as Felton, yes he was a better distributor early in the season, just like he was the last time he was here but he once again hit a patch where he wasn't as effective and Prigs was put in. Which as I mentioned, played to his strengths as a scorer, win-win as far as I'm concerned. As far as who is a better passer, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

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7/5/2013  1:56 PM
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7/5/2013  2:08 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/5/2013  2:09 PM
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holfresh wrote:I was responding to the article whether or not u posted and highlighted certain segments..But if u agree with the article then u too are wrong ..Knicks were winning with ball movement led by Felton early in the season..Prigs weren't getting much playing time ..It's revisionist history..

Wish you had put it that way to begin with. If that's the case I'm not sure why you included those comments about real fans who watch games. I obviously thought that stat had some merit of I wouldn't have posted it, I'm surprised you didn't take that into consideration before questioning the fandom or knowledge of anyone who would agree with it. As someone who has been a fan for more than 40 years I took exception to that comment.

As far as Felton, yes he was a better distributor early in the season, just like he was the last time he was here but he once again hit a patch where he wasn't as effective and Prigs was put in. Which as I mentioned, played to his strengths as a scorer, win-win as far as I'm concerned. As far as who is a better passer, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

I really don't understand why you would think it's directed at you when u didn't write the article or post any personal thoughts..I have started threads only posting articles..In no way do I think the comments that follows is directed at me but a response to the article..

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7/5/2013  2:15 PM
And to get back in topic..At the start of the year..JKidd got credit for the ball movement and was supposedly the reason the Knicks were winning..Felton got hurt and was out close to a month ..Prigs and Kidd had ample opportunity to take the reins and show us how to run a team..They didn't ..The Knicks played .500 ball..It's wasn't until Felton came back and got healthy that the team started playing better again..Now they are trying to credit Prigs with the late season good play..Come on..Prigs wasn't averaging 15 mins a game..
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7/5/2013  2:21 PM
holfresh wrote:
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holfresh wrote:I was responding to the article whether or not u posted and highlighted certain segments..But if u agree with the article then u too are wrong ..Knicks were winning with ball movement led by Felton early in the season..Prigs weren't getting much playing time ..It's revisionist history..

Wish you had put it that way to begin with. If that's the case I'm not sure why you included those comments about real fans who watch games. I obviously thought that stat had some merit of I wouldn't have posted it, I'm surprised you didn't take that into consideration before questioning the fandom or knowledge of anyone who would agree with it. As someone who has been a fan for more than 40 years I took exception to that comment.

As far as Felton, yes he was a better distributor early in the season, just like he was the last time he was here but he once again hit a patch where he wasn't as effective and Prigs was put in. Which as I mentioned, played to his strengths as a scorer, win-win as far as I'm concerned. As far as who is a better passer, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

I really don't understand why you would think it's directed at you when u didn't write the article or post any personal thoughts..I have started threads only posting articles..In no way do I think the comments that follows is directed at me but a response to the article..

I get what you're saying, posters link articles and sometimes they're considered crapola and people speak their minds. No problem with that, but highlighting part of it obviously means that I thought the stat had some merit. You came back questioning the fandom of anyone or knowledge of anyone who would think that offense has anything to do with why Prigs was brought back.

If that wasn't your intention then once again I apologize but I hope you can at least appreciate why I would think that it was directed at me.

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7/5/2013  2:29 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
holfresh wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
holfresh wrote:I was responding to the article whether or not u posted and highlighted certain segments..But if u agree with the article then u too are wrong ..Knicks were winning with ball movement led by Felton early in the season..Prigs weren't getting much playing time ..It's revisionist history..

Wish you had put it that way to begin with. If that's the case I'm not sure why you included those comments about real fans who watch games. I obviously thought that stat had some merit of I wouldn't have posted it, I'm surprised you didn't take that into consideration before questioning the fandom or knowledge of anyone who would agree with it. As someone who has been a fan for more than 40 years I took exception to that comment.

As far as Felton, yes he was a better distributor early in the season, just like he was the last time he was here but he once again hit a patch where he wasn't as effective and Prigs was put in. Which as I mentioned, played to his strengths as a scorer, win-win as far as I'm concerned. As far as who is a better passer, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

I really don't understand why you would think it's directed at you when u didn't write the article or post any personal thoughts..I have started threads only posting articles..In no way do I think the comments that follows is directed at me but a response to the article..

I get what you're saying, posters link articles and sometimes they're considered crapola and people speak their minds. No problem with that, but highlighting part of it obviously means that I thought the stat had some merit. You came back questioning the fandom of anyone or knowledge of anyone who would think that offense has anything to do with why Prigs was brought back.

If that wasn't your intention then once again I apologize but I hope you can at least appreciate why I would think that it was directed at me.

Well for that I apologize but I think your interpretation is incorrect..I would never question the fandom of anyone here ..My point is that lots of these writer don't watch the games as closely was we do..I have stated that point many times in my postings..For example, during the season, one writer tried to credit Prigs for a win that he only played 9 mins..I saw the game and actually had to check the boxscore..

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7/5/2013  2:31 PM
holfresh wrote:And to get back in topic..At the start of the year..JKidd got credit for the ball movement and was supposedly the reason the Knicks were winning..Felton got hurt and was out close to a month ..Prigs and Kidd had ample opportunity to take the reins and show us how to run a team..They didn't ..The Knicks played .500 ball..It's wasn't until Felton came back and got healthy that the team started playing better again..Now they are trying to credit Prigs with the late season good play..Come on..Prigs wasn't averaging 15 mins a game..

Kidd's biggest strength IMO early in the season was his 3pt shooting and D, he had very little if any mobility. He was playing SG when Felton was a the point and doing well, to make matters worse Kidd was getting more minutes than he should have.

The difference with Prigs IMO was that he was doing a better job of finding Melo among others. In the Boston series Felton was often getting double teamed as soon as he crossed halfcourt, sometimes even before that. They didn't guard prigs as closely at PG because they knew he wouldn't take it to the rim. When Felton was moved back to the 2 during the series it allowed him to work off the ball and he was able to penetrate and get to the rim and the foul line.

I'm not suggesting that prigs should be the starter for the entire season, he won't last and I want a PG who can get to the rim. I would like to see Felton challenged for the starting job by another PG out there, and if he wins fine, but I'd like to see if we can do better.

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