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DurzoBlint
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7/2/2013 11:41 AM

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Sweetney finally returns to form!
That is disrespectful to Brand. On his worst day he is/was 100times better than sweets and hasn't managed to eat his way out of the league either.
Once upon a time Sweets was compared to Brand as our hopes when drafted the big guy would morph into a "Brand" like player.
Its called: Sarcasim

I knew that (used to your posts by now ), just wanted to point it out because I had high hopes for Sweets too. We too often OVERVALUE our rooks while undervaluing the vets.

What do you think of the move?

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt

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7/2/2013 11:49 AM

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He played pretty solid off the bench for dallas, this would be a very solid move.. He could bang, rebound, play the post, solid passer..

we have needs across the boards..

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7/2/2013 11:51 AM

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You can actually make the case he is a better player than K-mart but I would like to have both.

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7/2/2013 11:53 AM

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yellowboy90 wrote:You can actually make the case he is a better player than K-mart but I would like to have both.

I think the Knicks will get KMsrt back also. If they do I wonder if they move Tyson. His name keeps coming up but the rumors are all called false.

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7/2/2013 11:55 AM

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yellowboy90 wrote:You can actually make the case he is a better player than K-mart but I would like to have both.
I think the Knicks will get KMsrt back also. If they do I wonder if they move Tyson. His name keeps coming up but the rumors are all called false.

If they let Tyson go they better keep K-mart or get some major pkg. K-mart is not capable of playing big minutes.

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7/2/2013 11:57 AM

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Shouldn't be for more than the minimum, and hopefully Martin comes back for that too. If you get Brand and Martin on the minimum and Smith for his early bird, you can Jettison Cope and Prigs and use the MLE on a better backup PG.

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7/2/2013 11:57 AM

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Marc Berman ‏@NYPost_Berman 8s
Had Brand as one of #Knicks three free agent targets in Sunday Post's graphic. Continued interest shows they have to break up 3.1M midlevel.

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7/2/2013 11:58 AM

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yellowboy90 wrote:You can actually make the case he is a better player than K-mart but I would like to have both.

yeah, better on the boards, a better shot blocker and a money mid range jumper. If Kmart had only developed a jumper he'd have been a true monster.

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7/2/2013 11:59 AM

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Brand only made 2 mil last yr so, im sure they will use the vet min which is 1.5

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7/2/2013 12:00 PM

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Finestrg wrote:Why oh why can't it be someone younger?? Why does it have to be some long-in-the-tooth dude that's past his prime?? WHY? Jesus H Christ -- they're so FACINATED with this older players that are in the twilight of their careers, it's SCARY!!
Ok, got that out of my system -- anyone recall Brand on Dallas this past season? How'd he look -- does he have anything left?? Also, this has got to be for the vet minimum, right? Do we dip into the mini-MLE for this guy? God, I hope not..
Because the young ones like Blatche stay with their teams for less or sign somewhere else for more.
Not talking about Blatche...I couldn't give a **** about that guy. I'm talking about adding a guy from SL, a young FA in their low 20s that fits the bill, someone cheap...Even Earl Barron is bigger and a good 3-4 yrs younger. I dunno man -- I hope I'm wrong and this guy has something left...They just love pushing the envelope with these guys that are on the downside...Get some more friggin' youngsters in here for Christ's sake..

Didn't we just recently do that with CJ Leslie, AJ Matthews, and Jerome Jordan? The only OLD guys we have left on the team are Prigs and KMart, neither of which actually have a contract at the moment (otherwise, is Tyson our oldest?).

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7/2/2013 12:01 PM

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knicks1248 wrote:Brand only made 2 mil last yr so, im sure they will use the vet min which is 1.5

Knicks gave Novak close to 4 mil, gave Camby 3 years, gave Kidd 3 years...Just don't hold your breath..

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7/2/2013 12:03 PM

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yellowboy90 wrote:You can actually make the case he is a better player than K-mart but I would like to have both.
I think the Knicks will get KMsrt back also. If they do I wonder if they move Tyson. His name keeps coming up but the rumors are all called false.

I read K-Mart refused to sign to be a piece on the Bargnani trade - hoping that we didn't burn any bridges with as a result.

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7/2/2013 12:04 PM

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knicks1248 wrote:Brand only made 2 mil last yr so, im sure they will use the vet min which is 1.5
Knicks gave Novak close to 4 mil, gave Camby 3 years, gave Kidd 3 years...Just don't hold your breath..

yeah but the plan is now a 2 yr plan, not 3..im almost certain who ever they sign it's going to be a 2 yr contract with a team 3rd

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7/2/2013 12:05 PM

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yellowboy90 wrote:You can actually make the case he is a better player than K-mart but I would like to have both.
I think the Knicks will get KMsrt back also. If they do I wonder if they move Tyson. His name keeps coming up but the rumors are all called false.
I read K-Mart refused to sign to be a piece on the Bargnani trade - hoping that we didn't burn any bridges with as a result.

KMart was never part of that imo. The only reason Q was added was because they didn't get the deal done on time. Because they got it done a day late it effected the salaries and Q had to be thrown in to make it work. KMart unlike Q and Camby proved his value. Why would they move him when they need him back badly.

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7/2/2013 12:05 PM

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y2zipper wrote:Shouldn't be for more than the minimum, and hopefully Martin comes back for that too. If you get Brand and Martin on the minimum and Smith for his early bird, you can Jettison Cope and Prigs and use the MLE on a better backup PG.

Martin is as good as gone he will be a NET

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7/2/2013 12:07 PM

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yellowboy90 wrote:You can actually make the case he is a better player than K-mart but I would like to have both.
I think the Knicks will get KMsrt back also. If they do I wonder if they move Tyson. His name keeps coming up but the rumors are all called false.
I read K-Mart refused to sign to be a piece on the Bargnani trade - hoping that we didn't burn any bridges with as a result.

I think it was media speculation. Another article said the Knicks had to look for a player who would accept that and they thoughts Martin wouldn't.

I think he comes back barring more moves.

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7/2/2013 12:11 PM

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MaTT4281 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:You can actually make the case he is a better player than K-mart but I would like to have both.
I think the Knicks will get KMsrt back also. If they do I wonder if they move Tyson. His name keeps coming up but the rumors are all called false.
I read K-Mart refused to sign to be a piece on the Bargnani trade - hoping that we didn't burn any bridges with as a result.
I think it was media speculation. Another article said the Knicks had to look for a player who would accept that and they thoughts Martin wouldn't.
I think he comes back barring more moves.

bringing kmart back and adding brand is stupid, there both 6 9" and do just about the same thing, plus there too undersize to play center and neither can stretch the floor..Add amare in there, and it really looks cluttered

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7/2/2013 12:13 PM

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Hasn't Brand played Center the last 4-5 yrs in Philly and Dallas?

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7/2/2013 12:14 PM

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MaTT4281 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:You can actually make the case he is a better player than K-mart but I would like to have both.
I think the Knicks will get KMsrt back also. If they do I wonder if they move Tyson. His name keeps coming up but the rumors are all called false.
I read K-Mart refused to sign to be a piece on the Bargnani trade - hoping that we didn't burn any bridges with as a result.
I think it was media speculation. Another article said the Knicks had to look for a player who would accept that and they thoughts Martin wouldn't.
I think he comes back barring more moves.
bringing kmart back and adding brand is stupid, there both 6 9" and do just about the same thing, plus there too undersize to play center and neither can stretch the floor..Add amare in there, and it really looks cluttered

KMart CAN NOT do the same things Brand can. He can shoot, is a far better rebounder, a better shot blocker, a superior player all around. All KMart give you is defense and an occasional dunk. Brand brings much, much more to the table. Considering our injury history, you can't have too many bigs. Heck on a healthy team you can't have to many bigs.

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7/2/2013 12:15 PM

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yellowboy90 wrote:Hasn't Brand played Center the last 4-5 yrs in Philly and Dallas?

You can stick him at 5 in certain scenarios--so he would be a good compliment to playing w Barganani.

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