ChuckBuck wrote:

martin wrote:

Clean wrote:Knicks are doing the same thing to cope that we did to lin. They have not talked to him. Watch him sign a good offer sheet and the the Knicks will be butt hurt over it and blame him.

Really? Where did you see this?

LOL, the Knicks been extended a "Qualifying Offer" to both Prigs and Copes already.

It's not even remotely close to what happened with Lin.

They extended one to Lin also. I am not sure what your point is, maybe you don't understand what a qualifying offer actually is.

martin wrote:

Clean wrote:Knicks are doing the same thing to cope that we did to lin. They have not talked to him. Watch him sign a good offer sheet and the the Knicks will be butt hurt over it and blame him.

Really? Where did you see this?

It's what Nate Taylor from the NY Times tweeted.

Nate Taylor ‏@ByNateTaylor 2h
A person close to Chris Copeland said the Knicks have not yet reached out to him since free agency began.

Clean wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

martin wrote:

Clean wrote:Knicks are doing the same thing to cope that we did to lin. They have not talked to him. Watch him sign a good offer sheet and the the Knicks will be butt hurt over it and blame him.

Really? Where did you see this?

LOL, the Knicks been extended a "Qualifying Offer" to both Prigs and Copes already.

It's not even remotely close to what happened with Lin.

They extended one to Lin also. I am not sure what your point is, maybe you don't understand what a qualifying offer actually is.

Actually, I'm not sure you know what qualifying offer is, Lin never received one.

They could only offer the 4 year deal, around $5 mill per to Lin, but could match any offer within the confines of the CBA.

Dolan/Grunwald never formally gave him an offer, they just said they'd be willing to match. Once Lin/Houston poison pilled us, we declined matching, and went after Kidd and Felton.

So maybe you should read up on before typing out of your .....

Anyways, like I was saying. This case is totally different. The Knicks extended Qualifying Offers to both Copeland and Prigioni as soon as the season ended, the most they can offer:

Jared Zwerling
‏@JaredZwerling
Just in: #Knicks have made a qualifying offer to Copeland for 1 year at $988,872. Cope has until July 23 to accept. Other teams interested.

Knicks extend offer to Pablo Prigioni
Updated: June 26, 2013, 10:12 PM ET
By Ian Begley | Special to ESPNNewYork.com

The New York Knicks extended a qualifying offer to point guard Pablo Prigioni on Wednesday, the team confirmed.

Prigioni will be a restricted free agent on July 1. The Knicks will have an opportunity to match offers from other teams, but they will have limited resources from which to draw.

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New York is over the salary cap and would have to use part of its mini-mid-level exception (worth approximately $3.1 million annually) to match an offer to Prigioni that exceeds the value of his qualifying offer ($988,872).

Prigioni has until July 23 to accept the offer. If he declines to accept by that date, the Knicks can rescind it.

The 36-year-old veteran averaged 3.5 points and 3.0 assists for the Knicks this past season. He emerged as a vital piece for New York late in the regular season. The Knicks reeled off 13 straight wins between mid-March and early April after inserting Prigioni into the starting lineup.

Prigioni started 10 of the Knicks' 12 playoff games, averaging 4.5 points and 3.2 assists.

With Jason Kidd retiring to become coach of the Nets and Prigioni testing free agency, the Knicks' point guard position is in flux.

Their top priority in free agency, according to a league source, is to retain Sixth Man of the Year Award winner J.R. Smith. They also might have to make a decision on Chris Copeland. The team extended Copeland a qualifying offer on Tuesday, but Copeland is expected to attract offers that exceed the value of the qualifying offer.

Ian Begley is a regular contributor to ESPNNewYork.com.

As for that Nate Taylor Tweet, someone called him out on it, and he retracted his statement:

Nate Taylor ‏@ByNateTaylor 2h
@johnnyrockhill They did make the offer & Glen did say that. But other teams are already pursuing Copeland & they can offer him more money.

You guys should learn how to read twitter...noobs.

ChuckBuck wrote:

Clean wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

martin wrote:

Clean wrote:Knicks are doing the same thing to cope that we did to lin. They have not talked to him. Watch him sign a good offer sheet and the the Knicks will be butt hurt over it and blame him.

Really? Where did you see this?

LOL, the Knicks been extended a "Qualifying Offer" to both Prigs and Copes already.

It's not even remotely close to what happened with Lin.

They extended one to Lin also. I am not sure what your point is, maybe you don't understand what a qualifying offer actually is.

Actually, I'm not sure you know what qualifying offer is, Lin never received one.

They could only offer the 4 year deal, around $5 mill per to Lin, but could match any offer within the confines of the CBA.

Dolan/Grunwald never formally gave him an offer, they just said they'd be willing to match. Once Lin/Houston poison pilled us, we declined matching, and went after Kidd and Felton.

So maybe you should read up on before typing out of your .....

Anyways, like I was saying. This case is totally different. The Knicks extended Qualifying Offers to both Copeland and Prigioni as soon as the season ended, the most they can offer:

Jared Zwerling
‏@JaredZwerling
Just in: #Knicks have made a qualifying offer to Copeland for 1 year at $988,872. Cope has until July 23 to accept. Other teams interested.

Knicks extend offer to Pablo Prigioni
Updated: June 26, 2013, 10:12 PM ET
By Ian Begley | Special to ESPNNewYork.com

The New York Knicks extended a qualifying offer to point guard Pablo Prigioni on Wednesday, the team confirmed.

Prigioni will be a restricted free agent on July 1. The Knicks will have an opportunity to match offers from other teams, but they will have limited resources from which to draw.

Knicks Blog
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New York is over the salary cap and would have to use part of its mini-mid-level exception (worth approximately $3.1 million annually) to match an offer to Prigioni that exceeds the value of his qualifying offer ($988,872).

Prigioni has until July 23 to accept the offer. If he declines to accept by that date, the Knicks can rescind it.

The 36-year-old veteran averaged 3.5 points and 3.0 assists for the Knicks this past season. He emerged as a vital piece for New York late in the regular season. The Knicks reeled off 13 straight wins between mid-March and early April after inserting Prigioni into the starting lineup.

Prigioni started 10 of the Knicks' 12 playoff games, averaging 4.5 points and 3.2 assists.

With Jason Kidd retiring to become coach of the Nets and Prigioni testing free agency, the Knicks' point guard position is in flux.

Their top priority in free agency, according to a league source, is to retain Sixth Man of the Year Award winner J.R. Smith. They also might have to make a decision on Chris Copeland. The team extended Copeland a qualifying offer on Tuesday, but Copeland is expected to attract offers that exceed the value of the qualifying offer.

Ian Begley is a regular contributor to ESPNNewYork.com.

As for that Nate Taylor Tweet, someone called him out on it, and he retracted his statement:

Nate Taylor ‏@ByNateTaylor 2h
@johnnyrockhill They did make the offer & Glen did say that. But other teams are already pursuing Copeland & they can offer him more money.

You guys should learn how to read twitter...noobs.

Your idea of a qualifying offer is wrong. A qualifying is what makes a player a restricted free agent. The fact that Lin was a restricted free agent means he was given a qualifying offer. The fact that we had the opertunity to match Houstons offer means he was given a qualifying offer. A qualifying offer not negotiable. It is a 1 year deal where the player can not be traded unless they agree to it. This is how players who wish to become unrestricted free agents can do it in 1 year. You can give a player a qualifying offer without ever talking to them. It is built into their contracts.

As for the Nate Taylor thing there is only one way I could have seen that tweet. Since he sent it directly to that person it will not and has not been sent to his followers timeline. The way to send it to your followers and the person your talking to is to place a period at the start of the tweet. So you see, I do know how to read twitter he just did not share that tweet with his followers. I am not gonna sit on his twitter page and refresh it every second just to see everything he has to tweet to other people.

Clean wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Clean wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

martin wrote:

Clean wrote:Knicks are doing the same thing to cope that we did to lin. They have not talked to him. Watch him sign a good offer sheet and the the Knicks will be butt hurt over it and blame him.

Really? Where did you see this?

LOL, the Knicks been extended a "Qualifying Offer" to both Prigs and Copes already.

It's not even remotely close to what happened with Lin.

They extended one to Lin also. I am not sure what your point is, maybe you don't understand what a qualifying offer actually is.

Actually, I'm not sure you know what qualifying offer is, Lin never received one.

They could only offer the 4 year deal, around $5 mill per to Lin, but could match any offer within the confines of the CBA.

Dolan/Grunwald never formally gave him an offer, they just said they'd be willing to match. Once Lin/Houston poison pilled us, we declined matching, and went after Kidd and Felton.

So maybe you should read up on before typing out of your .....

Anyways, like I was saying. This case is totally different. The Knicks extended Qualifying Offers to both Copeland and Prigioni as soon as the season ended, the most they can offer:

Jared Zwerling
‏@JaredZwerling
Just in: #Knicks have made a qualifying offer to Copeland for 1 year at $988,872. Cope has until July 23 to accept. Other teams interested.

Knicks extend offer to Pablo Prigioni
Updated: June 26, 2013, 10:12 PM ET
By Ian Begley | Special to ESPNNewYork.com

The New York Knicks extended a qualifying offer to point guard Pablo Prigioni on Wednesday, the team confirmed.

Prigioni will be a restricted free agent on July 1. The Knicks will have an opportunity to match offers from other teams, but they will have limited resources from which to draw.

Knicks Blog
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New York is over the salary cap and would have to use part of its mini-mid-level exception (worth approximately $3.1 million annually) to match an offer to Prigioni that exceeds the value of his qualifying offer ($988,872).

Prigioni has until July 23 to accept the offer. If he declines to accept by that date, the Knicks can rescind it.

The 36-year-old veteran averaged 3.5 points and 3.0 assists for the Knicks this past season. He emerged as a vital piece for New York late in the regular season. The Knicks reeled off 13 straight wins between mid-March and early April after inserting Prigioni into the starting lineup.

Prigioni started 10 of the Knicks' 12 playoff games, averaging 4.5 points and 3.2 assists.

With Jason Kidd retiring to become coach of the Nets and Prigioni testing free agency, the Knicks' point guard position is in flux.

Their top priority in free agency, according to a league source, is to retain Sixth Man of the Year Award winner J.R. Smith. They also might have to make a decision on Chris Copeland. The team extended Copeland a qualifying offer on Tuesday, but Copeland is expected to attract offers that exceed the value of the qualifying offer.

Ian Begley is a regular contributor to ESPNNewYork.com.

As for that Nate Taylor Tweet, someone called him out on it, and he retracted his statement:

Nate Taylor ‏@ByNateTaylor 2h
@johnnyrockhill They did make the offer & Glen did say that. But other teams are already pursuing Copeland & they can offer him more money.

You guys should learn how to read twitter...noobs.

Your idea of a qualifying offer is wrong. A qualifying is what makes a player a restricted free agent. The fact that Lin was a restricted free agent means he was given a qualifying offer. The fact that we had the opertunity to match Houstons offer means he was given a qualifying offer. A qualifying offer not negotiable. It is a 1 year deal where the player can not be traded unless they agree to it. This is how players who wish to become unrestricted free agents can do it in 1 year. You can give a player a qualifying offer without ever talking to them. It is built into their contracts.

As for the Nate Taylor thing there is only one way I could have seen that tweet. Since he sent it directly to that person it will not and has not been sent to his followers timeline. The way to send it to your followers and the person your talking to is to place a period at the start of the tweet. So you see, I do know how to read twitter he just did not share that tweet with his followers. I am not gonna sit on his twitter page and refresh it every second just to see everything he has to tweet to other people.

Yea, so they all receive qualifying offers! YIPPEEE! Drinks for everyone!

Fact is, you thought Cope never received one, when he was the probably the first player the Knicks acted on.

We all make mistakes.

Clean wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Clean wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Clean wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

martin wrote:

Clean wrote:Knicks are doing the same thing to cope that we did to lin. They have not talked to him. Watch him sign a good offer sheet and the the Knicks will be butt hurt over it and blame him.

Really? Where did you see this?

LOL, the Knicks been extended a "Qualifying Offer" to both Prigs and Copes already.

It's not even remotely close to what happened with Lin.

They extended one to Lin also. I am not sure what your point is, maybe you don't understand what a qualifying offer actually is.

Actually, I'm not sure you know what qualifying offer is, Lin never received one.

They could only offer the 4 year deal, around $5 mill per to Lin, but could match any offer within the confines of the CBA.

Dolan/Grunwald never formally gave him an offer, they just said they'd be willing to match. Once Lin/Houston poison pilled us, we declined matching, and went after Kidd and Felton.

So maybe you should read up on before typing out of your .....

Anyways, like I was saying. This case is totally different. The Knicks extended Qualifying Offers to both Copeland and Prigioni as soon as the season ended, the most they can offer:

Jared Zwerling
‏@JaredZwerling
Just in: #Knicks have made a qualifying offer to Copeland for 1 year at $988,872. Cope has until July 23 to accept. Other teams interested.

Knicks extend offer to Pablo Prigioni
Updated: June 26, 2013, 10:12 PM ET
By Ian Begley | Special to ESPNNewYork.com

The New York Knicks extended a qualifying offer to point guard Pablo Prigioni on Wednesday, the team confirmed.

Prigioni will be a restricted free agent on July 1. The Knicks will have an opportunity to match offers from other teams, but they will have limited resources from which to draw.

Knicks Blog
Looking for more Knicks news? ESPNNewYork.com has you covered. Blog »

New York is over the salary cap and would have to use part of its mini-mid-level exception (worth approximately $3.1 million annually) to match an offer to Prigioni that exceeds the value of his qualifying offer ($988,872).

Prigioni has until July 23 to accept the offer. If he declines to accept by that date, the Knicks can rescind it.

The 36-year-old veteran averaged 3.5 points and 3.0 assists for the Knicks this past season. He emerged as a vital piece for New York late in the regular season. The Knicks reeled off 13 straight wins between mid-March and early April after inserting Prigioni into the starting lineup.

Prigioni started 10 of the Knicks' 12 playoff games, averaging 4.5 points and 3.2 assists.

With Jason Kidd retiring to become coach of the Nets and Prigioni testing free agency, the Knicks' point guard position is in flux.

Their top priority in free agency, according to a league source, is to retain Sixth Man of the Year Award winner J.R. Smith. They also might have to make a decision on Chris Copeland. The team extended Copeland a qualifying offer on Tuesday, but Copeland is expected to attract offers that exceed the value of the qualifying offer.

Ian Begley is a regular contributor to ESPNNewYork.com.

As for that Nate Taylor Tweet, someone called him out on it, and he retracted his statement:

Nate Taylor ‏@ByNateTaylor 2h
@johnnyrockhill They did make the offer & Glen did say that. But other teams are already pursuing Copeland & they can offer him more money.

You guys should learn how to read twitter...noobs.

Your idea of a qualifying offer is wrong. A qualifying is what makes a player a restricted free agent. The fact that Lin was a restricted free agent means he was given a qualifying offer. The fact that we had the opertunity to match Houstons offer means he was given a qualifying offer. A qualifying offer not negotiable. It is a 1 year deal where the player can not be traded unless they agree to it. This is how players who wish to become unrestricted free agents can do it in 1 year. You can give a player a qualifying offer without ever talking to them. It is built into their contracts.

As for the Nate Taylor thing there is only one way I could have seen that tweet. Since he sent it directly to that person it will not and has not been sent to his followers timeline. The way to send it to your followers and the person your talking to is to place a period at the start of the tweet. So you see, I do know how to read twitter he just did not share that tweet with his followers. I am not gonna sit on his twitter page and refresh it every second just to see everything he has to tweet to other people.

Yea, so they all receive qualifying offers! YIPPEEE! Drinks for everyone!

Fact is, you thought Cope never received one, when he was the probably the first player the Knicks acted on.

We all make mistakes.

I actually never said anything about qualifying offers in my initial post. I was talking about negotiated offers. It was a simple misunderstanding.

No problem, all good. That said if another team highballs us on Cope, there isn't much we can do. We can only dip into our MLE for Cope and Prigs(around $3m), so if they offer at $4 mill or higher, he's as good as gone.

Honestly, I'm more concerned with trying to retain K-Mart. Not a peep heard from either side...

I'd like to re-sign all 3 (KMart, Cope, Prigs)but we don't have enough money to go around.