knicks1248 wrote:I'm not sure about this kid, he has very little upside, can't shoot a 3 pointer (the staple of our offense) and a avg rebounder and defender.

Im going to watch him more closely tonight. The biggest thing is does he have the feet to guard NBA 3's ?, If he cant and he cant hit the outside shot then playing next to Melo isnt going to work.

Jmpasq wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I'm not sure about this kid, he has very little upside, can't shoot a 3 pointer (the staple of our offense) and a avg rebounder and defender.

Im going to watch him more closely tonight. The biggest thing is does he have the feet to guard NBA 3's ?, If he cant and he cant hit the outside shot then playing next to Melo isnt going to work.

Playing next to Melo?

An undrafted rookie?

Wow....talking about expectations!

Jmpasq wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I'm not sure about this kid, he has very little upside, can't shoot a 3 pointer (the staple of our offense) and a avg rebounder and defender.

Im going to watch him more closely tonight. The biggest thing is does he have the feet to guard NBA 3's ?, If he cant and he cant hit the outside shot then playing next to Melo isnt going to work.

I just saw a few clips...and some pro am clips, where he has more freedom with the ball, vs the college system.

I think he can play SF or PF. As he gets stronger, he will be a nice player off the bench, to provide some easy buckets and defensive length with blocks and steals.

I like this pickup.....Lots of potential. And to go undrafted is perfect motivation!

12 players born overseas in the first round. This international strategy for the NBA pushes tallented players out of the draft, but provides plenty of picking for playoff teams searching through the undrafted bin, looking for an NBA gem who can play now, vs going back overseas.

misterearl wrote:Stacy Augmon Anyone?

In Wojnarowski's report, he mentioned that one league personnel director told him that Leslie and Nerlens Noel "rate as the two most explosive athletes in this year's draft class." While Anthony Bennett might have something to say about that, it just goes to show how much the NBA values athleticism.

Leslie's most glaring red flag is his lack of a true position. Though his specific game is built for the power-forward role, he measures in around 6'8'', 200 pounds, and he's never averaged more than 7.4 rebounds per game.

His size suggests he plays small forward at the next level, however, his skill set does not. Leslie struggles playing on the perimeter, without the ball-handling or outside stroke (only 13 made threes in three years at NC State) that most NBA wings require.

When do the most explosive athletes of a draft combine every pan out to be anything. So he cracks our WIN NOW rotation?

nykshaknbake wrote:Good pick up to develop. Maybe we'll. See him in a year or two. Price was right.

You have to get him back to being involved with the dribble--getting into space and developing length on his J. He can handle the ball at 6-9--he wasnt allowed to do that in college. If you add a jumpshot to him--hes a top 5 pick Ive said this several times.

Jmpasq wrote:Undrafted N.C. State forward C.J. Leslie has reached agreement on a deal with the New York Knicks"

Great signing. One of the most athletic guys in the draft

BRIGGS wrote:We now have three nice athletes in Hardaway Shumpert and Leslie. When you step back and look--this is not a bad foundation for the future and for the help of the team now. Last time we retooled--we didnt have a nucleus like that--we have one of the most athletic young groupo of wing players in the NBA. Now we need a lot of work still--but its not a bad start. I do not know how we can compete with the upper east unless miracles happen. This team was good when we had guys like Kid playing well JR Smith playing well Rasheed at the beginning Copeland in some games--all of these guys are likely gonzo. I don't think the Knicks want Smith back and I would NOT give him more than 2 years.

RonRon wrote:would have loved to deal with Portland for their 3 2nd round picks for Chandler, looking at all the talent that we could have added at picks 39,40,45
We really could have had the role players needed to fill our holes with this draft and by unloading Chandler but I would be surprised if Portland would even take such a deal

Muscula
Ryan Kelly

Ledo

Pierre Jackson
Eric Green

I think there is still good talent undrafted and would offer deals for MORE than 1 year for

Jamalle Haggins

Dwayne Davis'

I guess we will be looking for vet min PG's

We drafted the position we needed the least help in with Iman here

Well even with Iman, 2G was still a need. JR may not be retained and even if he is, we could still use another 2/3 for depth there anyway but I feel ya -- I just don't think it's a bigger need than PG (who's Felton's backup as of right now? Do we really go with Prigioni? He's gonna want a raise over last yr -- he's in the twilight of his career over 35, can't penetrate, may not be capable of playing big mins at this stage, etc.) or a bigger need for a big man with some skill (Chandler's overrated and can't be counted on for anything more than a supporting role; Amar'e's always hurt--if he breaks down again we have ZERO inside scoring presence; K-mart and Camby are long in the tooth and not nearly the same players they once were, etc.). As of right now, we're looking at playing Melo out of position once again -- how do you not correct that?? I dunno man...To me PG and getting a skilled big man were definitely bigger priorities over drafting a wing. We didn't even take the best wing available imo -- I feel out of Crabbe, Bullock, Rice Jr and Hardaway, we took the worst player of the 4.

Grunwald's saying he tried hard to get into the 2nd round for more help so I guess we gotta go easy.

Totally agree on Jamelle Hagins and Dwayne Davis. Two quality leftovers that have Vegas SL written all over them. I can't believe Hagins slipped through the draft -- I like him more than Tony Mitchell. The CJ Leslie signing was nice -- but you're not done, Glen. Keep going...Bring these guys in for SL and I'll be happy:

Jamelle Hagins
Dwayne Davis
Tyler Brown -- you guys seen tape of this kid? Tell me he doesn't resemble JR Smith a great deal -- he's a couple of inches shorted but man, the quickness, the superb handle for a 2--he can get anywhere he needs to get to on the court at will, the assortment of dribble-back moves to free himself for jumpers, the above average athleticism to get up and throw some dunks down -- it all resembles JR Smith a great deal, the whole package. This kid was over 40% from 3-pt land in college, he went for 20 ppg and hit 13 3s at Portsmouth and he showed he can get to the line at Illinois State and knock em down. Man, would I love to see this kid up close in Vegas. Could be a more efficient-shooting JR Smith w/o all the nonsense..

And maybe reach out to Patty Mills' agent and see what his deal is -- maybe he'd be willing to decline his player option & come here for $2M and a guarantee of 20+ mins a night. That's gotta be more appealing than serving as the 4th PG on SA's depth chart and carrying Tony Parker's luggage again I would think. All this dude needs is steady PT somewhere and he'll produce -- he's done it everywhere he's ever been..Here's our quick, break-you-down skilled PG right here.

Then there's the plethora of good cheap talent out there we could fill up on -- there's real quality young players available at every position..

Not how I would've gone about this so far but there's still time to pad this roster and continue improving depth. Let's see where we go from here.