nixluva wrote:WRONG!!! SG was a need. We need a guy that can actually catch and shoot. People are overlooking the strength of adding solid all around players like this to the team. If we had a guy like him this post season we might have advanced. We needed someone who could come off screens and knock down a shot. He can play within a team concept, which is very important for this team. Just look at how much difference it made when Shump was able to knock down shots off the pass. Imagine having someone who can do that consistently? Also most of these kids get training after NCAA and tend to sharpen up their skills. We don't know what he looked like in workouts with the Knicks. Some guys are better off in the NBA game than they looked in college and that may be the case here.

nixluva this is a SG that shot 41 and 43 % on a really good team. He doesnt handle the ball well is not a great rebounder--this is a D league pick up. Hes nothing special. Will he have moments yes. Is he a pure role player. Yes I can see why people are lazeferre on this pick its a bit of a dud. We couldve picked up a guy like Felix maybe after the draft and there is no difference. Actually Felix can rebound.

callmened wrote:i agree with nixluva...hes a decent shooter and playmaker but not a gamechanger...but at #24 no one is (expected to be)

Like Briggs said I don't understand how 43% is considered good shooting. That is overall shooting not just three point shooting. Should have taken Crabbe, or Glenn Rice jr.

nixluva wrote:WRONG!!! SG was a need. We need a guy that can actually catch and shoot. People are overlooking the strength of adding solid all around players like this to the team. If we had a guy like him this post season we might have advanced. We needed someone who could come off screens and knock down a shot. He can play within a team concept, which is very important for this team. Just look at how much difference it made when Shump was able to knock down shots off the pass. Imagine having someone who can do that consistently? Also most of these kids get training after NCAA and tend to sharpen up their skills. We don't know what he looked like in workouts with the Knicks. Some guys are better off in the NBA game than they looked in college and that may be the case here.

As long as he can shoot a 3, will always be a great pick for you. We have Shump and probably Jr at that position. At PG we have Felt on as our only legit player. Prigs actually needs to play with felt on because he can't drive.

And of course if only we would have played copeland or had this kid we would have destroyed the pacers who stymied all the 3 point shooters on miami.

He shot 36% last year from 3 pt. last year. Not terrible but certainly not great considering the college line is a few feet closer than the NBA. However he hit 19 of 25 in the 3 pt drill at the pre-draft combine. So maybe this is why we drafted him? But why didn't he do anything close to that in games for Michigan? I hope this isn't another Anthony Roberson demo where he hit some shots in practice; we signed him; and then he was a Big Bust.

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nixluva wrote:WRONG!!! SG was a need. We need a guy that can actually catch and shoot. People are overlooking the strength of adding solid all around players like this to the team. If we had a guy like him this post season we might have advanced. We needed someone who could come off screens and knock down a shot. He can play within a team concept, which is very important for this team. Just look at how much difference it made when Shump was able to knock down shots off the pass. Imagine having someone who can do that consistently? Also most of these kids get training after NCAA and tend to sharpen up their skills. We don't know what he looked like in workouts with the Knicks. Some guys are better off in the NBA game than they looked in college and that may be the case here.

nixluva this is a SG that shot 41 and 43 % on a really good team. He doesnt handle the ball well is not a great rebounder--this is a D league pick up. Hes nothing special. Will he have moments yes. Is he a pure role player. Yes I can see why people are lazeferre on this pick its a bit of a dud. We couldve picked up a guy like Felix maybe after the draft and there is no difference. Actually Felix can rebound.

Can't call this pick a dud if you believe he can be a rotation player. The kid has a good head on his shoulders and can defend. He's a good three point shooter off the catch and shoot. These are all needs. The main thing si that it's impossible to tell. I didn't think Ariza or Field would amount to much and they're legitimate NBA players. I think Hardaway has more going for him than those guy shad coming in, aside from Ariza's youth.

I think you are answering your own question. Ariza and Fields were second round picks not first round. Oh well hope he proves me wrong and becomes a great player.

My prediction is that Jr. will improve his shooting with more work, higher usage rate and he'll end up being a very solid SG/SF for this team. He's not a spectacular pick, but I think he'll be very useful and ready to contribute.