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loweyecue
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6/26/2013  8:02 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Reasons to be pessimistic. Thin at ph. Thin upfront. That is recipe for disaster

If we simply re-sign our free agents, depth wouldn't be an issue. For concern of the luxury tax, I'd look to sign and trade them while taking a look at the 2013 version of themselves the year before (on the out-and-out, bargain basement signings). Let's not also forget that the midseason waiver wire produces some pretty good rotation players. Guys like Chris Andersen, Kenyon Martin and Patrick Beverly had sizeable impacts with their new, playoff teams and I'm sure we can look forward to that this upcoming season if we can't find what we need in the offseason.

You want to re-sign the same FAs? So they can watch next years playoffs from the bench while dressed in suits? Camby is a bargain basement signing? How many minutes of PT did we get for the 5 Mil or whatever we are paying him? How about Rasheed should we waste a roster spot so he can retire again? (And he still is one my all time fav players). Kurt Thomas ?? - between the three of them they couldn't stay healthy for 40 total games.

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6/26/2013  8:39 PM
The biggest reason to be optimistic is that Shump is healthy and will have his first full off season as a pro to get ready. I think he's going to take a huge leap forward.

Also, Melo is entrenched at the 4. If we are granted one season with no Amare major setbacks, he and JR will make a great bench.

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6/26/2013  8:48 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/26/2013  8:49 PM
loweyecue wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Reasons to be pessimistic. Thin at ph. Thin upfront. That is recipe for disaster

If we simply re-sign our free agents, depth wouldn't be an issue. For concern of the luxury tax, I'd look to sign and trade them while taking a look at the 2013 version of themselves the year before (on the out-and-out, bargain basement signings). Let's not also forget that the midseason waiver wire produces some pretty good rotation players. Guys like Chris Andersen, Kenyon Martin and Patrick Beverly had sizeable impacts with their new, playoff teams and I'm sure we can look forward to that this upcoming season if we can't find what we need in the offseason.

You want to re-sign the same FAs? So they can watch next years playoffs from the bench while dressed in suits? Camby is a bargain basement signing? How many minutes of PT did we get for the 5 Mil or whatever we are paying him? How about Rasheed should we waste a roster spot so he can retire again? (And he still is one my all time fav players). Kurt Thomas ?? - between the three of them they couldn't stay healthy for 40 total games.

I thought everyone would've assumed that the free agents I was talking about were JR Smith, Chris Copeland, Kenyon Martin and Pablo Prigioni. I suppose I was wrong. And to answer your question, no, with exception to JR Smith, I'd prefer to sign and trade those guys for 2nd round picks in the 2013/2014 draft. I was just making the point we could bring those guys back and have no issues with depth.

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6/26/2013  8:55 PM
Someone just needs to offer Copeland more than the exception we have, JR may just get paid somewhere else as well.I do hope we keep K-Mart though.
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6/26/2013  8:56 PM
loweyecue wrote:
NardDogNation wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Reasons to be pessimistic. Thin at ph. Thin upfront. That is recipe for disaster

If we simply re-sign our free agents, depth wouldn't be an issue. For concern of the luxury tax, I'd look to sign and trade them while taking a look at the 2013 version of themselves the year before (on the out-and-out, bargain basement signings). Let's not also forget that the midseason waiver wire produces some pretty good rotation players. Guys like Chris Andersen, Kenyon Martin and Patrick Beverly had sizeable impacts with their new, playoff teams and I'm sure we can look forward to that this upcoming season if we can't find what we need in the offseason.

You want to re-sign the same FAs? So they can watch next years playoffs from the bench while dressed in suits? Camby is a bargain basement signing? How many minutes of PT did we get for the 5 Mil or whatever we are paying him? How about Rasheed should we waste a roster spot so he can retire again? (And he still is one my all time fav players). Kurt Thomas ?? - between the three of them they couldn't stay healthy for 40 total games.

I think he is talking about Prigs, Cope and JR.

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6/26/2013  8:59 PM
MSG3 wrote:The biggest reason to be optimistic is that Shump is healthy and will have his first full off season as a pro to get ready. I think he's going to take a huge leap forward.

Also, Melo is entrenched at the 4. If we are granted one season with no Amare major setbacks, he and JR will make a great bench.

I agree a fully healthy shumpert will help. However the Knicks have to play better playoff basketball. Sure 54 wins was great but you are judged how you did in the post season. i didnt expect to win a title this year BUT i did expect us to face Miami for the ECF. I was a little disappointed how the pacers pretty much owned us
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6/26/2013  9:23 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
MSG3 wrote:The biggest reason to be optimistic is that Shump is healthy and will have his first full off season as a pro to get ready. I think he's going to take a huge leap forward.

Also, Melo is entrenched at the 4. If we are granted one season with no Amare major setbacks, he and JR will make a great bench.

I agree a fully healthy shumpert will help. However the Knicks have to play better playoff basketball. Sure 54 wins was great but you are judged how you did in the post season. i didnt expect to win a title this year BUT i did expect us to face Miami for the ECF. I was a little disappointed how the pacers pretty much owned us

That pacers series was all on Tyson. All of it. Hibbert took a big **** on him.

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6/26/2013  9:37 PM
MSG3 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
MSG3 wrote:The biggest reason to be optimistic is that Shump is healthy and will have his first full off season as a pro to get ready. I think he's going to take a huge leap forward.

Also, Melo is entrenched at the 4. If we are granted one season with no Amare major setbacks, he and JR will make a great bench.

I agree a fully healthy shumpert will help. However the Knicks have to play better playoff basketball. Sure 54 wins was great but you are judged how you did in the post season. i didnt expect to win a title this year BUT i did expect us to face Miami for the ECF. I was a little disappointed how the pacers pretty much owned us

That pacers series was all on Tyson. All of it. Hibbert took a big **** on him.

tyson and JR were equally bad
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6/26/2013  9:52 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
MSG3 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
MSG3 wrote:The biggest reason to be optimistic is that Shump is healthy and will have his first full off season as a pro to get ready. I think he's going to take a huge leap forward.

Also, Melo is entrenched at the 4. If we are granted one season with no Amare major setbacks, he and JR will make a great bench.

I agree a fully healthy shumpert will help. However the Knicks have to play better playoff basketball. Sure 54 wins was great but you are judged how you did in the post season. i didnt expect to win a title this year BUT i did expect us to face Miami for the ECF. I was a little disappointed how the pacers pretty much owned us

That pacers series was all on Tyson. All of it. Hibbert took a big **** on him.

tyson and JR were equally bad

We could've survived JR if Tyson gave us anything. But you're right. JR was terrible as many including me predicted he would be in the playoffs.

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