NardDogNation wrote:

VCoug wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:I wanted to start a conversation about how this proposed BOS-LAC trade could affect the Knicks but didn't want to hijack 3G4G's thread and the direction it was heading in. That being said, how could we leverage such a deal to better our own situation? If the Clippers actually traded for both Pierce and Garnett, I would imagine that they'd have to give up a number of contracts; contracts that the Celtics might not want or that the Clippers would be willing to adequately compensate Boston for. Personally, I could see Willie Green and Matt Barnes (via a sign and trade) being in play for us.

On a different note, with Boston getting both Bledsoe AND Jordan, where could we theoretically move Tyson Chandler to, other than the salary dump with Portland? Many of us seem to be in agreement about the need to trade Tyson but the deal many of presumed was most feasible,now seems to be a no go.

Denver's should be a possibility as well, I'm sure they'd love to get rid of Javale McGee and his contract.

To OKC for Perkins is probably available but they'd have to blow us away with an offer to take him back.

I don't know what Ujiri's planning in Toronto but they haven't been acting like a team that's going to blow it up so they might be a possibility. Of course, any trade to Toronto would probably involve Bargnani and he's nowhere nearly enough and I doubt they can put together a good enough offer to make it worth our while.

If LAL loses Howard for nothing they'd probably be interested in Tyson but what sort of package could they put together that would interest us? Outside of Gasol their cupboard is bare.

I'm sure Washington would jump at the chance to dump Okafor and Ariza for Tyson but why the **** would we want to do that? But, at a minimum, they'd need to include Beal for me to even consider it.

I'm still on the fence about JaVale McGee. If we were to acquire him, I would only want him under certain conditions. His current pricetag and his propensity to do something stupid makes me a bit wary of adding him to a roster that has little room for error moving forward. We'd need to have at least one other capable center on the roster and another capable big next to McGee to cover for his mistakes.

I do like the idea of trading with OKC. I've never thought much of Perkin's game but if they add enough incentives, I could see the deal working. Maybe we could flip Perkins and some of them for McGee.

I could also see a deal to Toronto working. I disagree with you about the Raptors not having other interesting pieces to entice us to take Bargnani. I've had a man crush on Terrence Ross's game since he was drafted and believe that they'll suck bad enough to have a good enough pick to interest us in 2014.

I'm not too sure about the Lakers wanting Chandler. If they lose Howard, I think their main focus will be on trimming payroll now that Kobe will be out most of the upcoming season.

As for Washington, I definitely would be intrigued by an Okafor and Ariza offer if it were coupled with worthy incentives. I think Bradley Beal would be asking for too much but a future protected draft pick and Chris Singleton would peak my interest.

All in all, I think you've got some good ideas. Should be interesting to see how this offseason materializes.

McGee by himself doesn't get a deal done, Denver would definitely need to throw more into the pot and we'd have to cross our fingers that McGee can finally put it together.

I'm very hesitant about taking on Perkins, he used to be a solid role player but he's looked terrible.

A trade like that with Toronto would probably be the first step in blowing up and rebuilding. I'm not opposed to that since I can't see this team contending for a title but I doubt Dolan agrees. I don't see us making deals that hurt us short-term but probably improve us long-term.

yellowboy90 wrote:I Know OKC does not like to spend extra money but I would try to buy out Perkins or Amnesty him asap. NO one wants him in a trade. He is a back up center

They were really stupid not to do that last year to keep Harden. All the good OKC has done creating their roster, that 1 trade may be what keeps them from winning a championship.

Jmpasq wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:I Know OKC does not like to spend extra money but I would try to buy out Perkins or Amnesty him asap. NO one wants him in a trade. He is a back up center

They were really stupid not to do that last year to keep Harden. All the good OKC has done creating their roster, that 1 trade may be what keeps them from winning a championship.

I definitely think that this will serve as a cautionary tale about the dangers of overvaluing size. We might not be able to teach height but people tend to overlook the fact that talent is an "either you have it or you don't" situation. In Perkin's case, the guy has never had "it" and was only saved by the graces of the big 3 arriving in Boston. Before this point in time, Perkins was a fringe ball player at best IMHO.

On a similar note, I think the Boston Big 3 situation serves as a strong case in favor of "the starphuck",which has received so much disdain on this board. Stars make marginal and/or irrelevant players, relevant (see Kendrick Perkins, Booby Gibson, Mario Chalmers, Gary Neal, Danny Green, etc.). OKC foresaked this model and will likely be paying the consequences of it in the future.

Jmpasq wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:I Know OKC does not like to spend extra money but I would try to buy out Perkins or Amnesty him asap. NO one wants him in a trade. He is a back up center

They were really stupid not to do that last year to keep Harden. All the good OKC has done creating their roster, that 1 trade may be what keeps them from winning a championship.

Some of you forget is a business first for many owners.

Do you honestly think every owner is vying to win a championship in the NBA ???????

THIS WHY ONLY A FEW TEAMS HAVE WON IT OVER THE LAST 10 YRS.

Good Ownership and Management that loves the sport 1st usually wins. Business guys get rich, but if they loved the sport they will also win a championship one day.