Finestrg wrote:nixluva wrote:One thing that really bothered me is that we didn't have a really game changing PG. Speed, Breakdown ability, great jumper, floaters. I want a dynamic scoring PG for this team to take the pressure off the need to always go with either a Melo/JR ISo or a stand still 3. We just didn't get enough from Felton in this regard so it would've helped if we had a PG to come in and give us that punch. It's the kind of effect that Nate had for the Bulls.I'm hoping for a kid like Erick Green, Shane Larkin or Pierre Jackson type. I'm tired of this team being old and slow at PG. Not being able to get into the teeth of a defense and disrupt what they want to do. The drive and kick game has been missing and really with our 3pt shooting it would make it a priority for our PG's to get into the paint and suck the defense in.
I loved the PG IQ of Kidd and Prigs, but we really needed some raw speed at times. To be honest if I was the GM i'd be trying to get 2 more picks cuz this draft is deep with really solid role players. They're the cheapest way to add talent. A speedy PG, 2 way Swingman and a 2 way Center. No more 1 way players, since we lead the league in that category.
Great post as always, Nix.
Couldn't agree more -- address this PG situation already (gimmie as many break-you-down PGs as you can find -- if we decide to go with 3 PGs again next year, give me 2 additional breakdown points to go along with Ray -- when Ray sits, I want another breakdown PG inserted right away into the mix to keep optimum pressure on the opponent at all times)... And while you're at it, Glen -- address ALL of our needs this offseason, and leave no stone unturned in your search for solutions! The goal should be to field a team next year that's younger, more complete, more dynamic and chock full of viable 2-way players. I'm telling you all, it can be done!!!
I'll take this whole conversation a step further -- I'm all for adding quality cheap talent to the fold....Grunwald really has no choice in my estimation -- we don't have the cap room to add the high-priced household names (or even the middle-of-the-road FAs) -- and even if we did, I'm not convinced that throwing money at marginally better talent is the way to go in the NBA anyway. We've gotten burned on that in the past so many times I can't even count anymore. I say keep it simple and concentrate on adding some young/dynamic league-minimum talent to the mix...I'd definitely explore adding some bargain-bin types -- and there's a slew of these guys out there, I'd say a good 3-5 guys at each position/each area of need: speedy/uptempo PGs; scoring 2s; 2-way athletic wings (good call, I agree totally); scoring forwards; rebounding bigs and a more complete 5-man...It's all out there if we want it. I've talked about specific players ad nauseum over the last week alone... There's a ton of very promising talent out there that's not in the league NOT because they're not good enough, but because there's simply no room for them all! Each team only has 15-man rosters to work with, that's it. And not only that -- there are also PLENTY of very promising players out there that talent evaluators simple miss the boat on year after year imo. And once you get typecast as a player with this weakness or that weakness that isn't 'NBA material' it's very hard to shake that label, no matter how well you play in the DL/overseas, etc. I don't believe in bad labels or stigmatisms -- I believe in keeping and open mind and what my head and my own eyes tell me....We're in the unique position of being a pretty good team yet we're over-the-cap and low on draft picks year after year now. It's pretty hard to go the traditional route of adding talent under these conditions. So what do we do?? Do nothing and roll with the weaknesses or address them by ANY MEANS NECESSARY? You guys know my answer...We will actually have a good 5-6 roster spots open to add players, maybe more. Fill those spots!! Make it happen. As good as Chris Copeland was -- and he was damn good for us -- there's countless other players out there that ARE MUCH BETTER than Copeland that we could add for similar discount money. That's a fact. Guys at every damn postion even. Find 'em & add 'em!!!
Bottom line is I'm gonna be devastated if we go into next season with the same old story -- older players, one-dimensional players and the same shortcomings and if the answer is just "we don't have the cap room and we've been low on draft picks." That stock answer is not acceptable to me...It's BS.. I want all of these weaknesses identified and addressed. If you ask me, the best way to go about doing this is to go the Jeremy Lin/Chris Copeland bargain-bin route. What other alternatives do we have where we could address every weakness on this team all at once?
Example -- I completely agree we need more speed/penetration at the point to go along with Felton. Say we go in a different direction at 24, though, and go big or non-point guard. Then what? Nothing changes. The need is still there! Next step is to get into that 2nd round by any means necessary and grab a guy like Pierre Jackson...And if we can't do that, no problem -- step 3: go get the best undrafted and/or bargain-bin point guard out there and bring him in for SL for evaluation in our system preferably and go from there. For me, 2 quality PG options that fit the mold of what we're talking about here are Michael Loyd Jr. and Curtis Jerrells. And that's just tip of the iceberg...Start there and then systematically go position by position, addressing every weakness in sight. Our Summer league squad should be chock full of promising talent 1-13 -- all guys worthy of making the team. Not our draft pick, maybe one or 2 other promising players and that's it. Take the process super serious this summer!!!
Are you assuming Woodson would play or show any interest in developing young players? If so why?