Osiris wrote:

TeamBall wrote:Nolad I wasnt really disagreeing with you its just that you sound like my friend whos a Bulls fan and hates the Knicks and NY in general.

In the literal sense, the Knicks arent really a storied franchise. And yes, MSG is famous for a lot of things other than basketball. Its still widely said among the league and other places that MSG is the mecca of basketball though. However, that may just be a tagline that got popular.

Since Naismith was Canadian shouldn't Almonte Ontario be the "literal" mecca of basketball? LOL!

We have Willis in the tunnel.
We have Clyde.
We have Debusschere, Bradley, etc etc.
We have the Ewing Era.
We have two chips.

Your OP listed a whole 6 other franchises. Not a lot of other "stories" in the past 70 years, huh?
Typical low grade, understated Knick hate.

Tell us some more "stories" about the late great ABA.

jrodmc wrote:It's New York's pro basketball team. One of the league originals. Played the first ever NBA game, beat the Huskies.

We have Willis in the tunnel.
We have Clyde.
We have Debusschere, Bradley, etc etc.
We have the Ewing Era.
We have two chips.

Your OP listed a whole 6 other franchises. Not a lot of other "stories" in the past 70 years, huh?
Typical low grade, understated Knick hate.

Tell us some more "stories" about the late great ABA.

And their shouldn't be. To become "storied" is kind of an honor, we shouldn't consider every random team and player storied, only the ones that deserve it.

Nalod wrote:LIke I said, the reference was "JR Smith does not deserve to wear the uniform of this storied franchise"..........

I admit, I got "Storied" wrong. I was under the belief "storied" was a positive descriptor instead of one just steep in history.

My bad.

I am a fan but I don't view my team with rose colored glasses and pretend our franchise is above reproach because we have:

We have Willis in the tunnel.
We have Clyde.
We have Debusschere, Bradley, etc etc.
We have the Ewing Era.
We have two chips.

We HAD Cyle, We HAD, Willis, ETCETC.....

HAD!!!!

We HAD Isiah, Pat Cummings, Sky Walker, Rory, Tickey, Bannister, Layden, Bianchi, Stu Jax, coach Willis, McAdoo, The Human Eraser, Toby and Travis knight, Tapscott, Weis, Postell, Marbury, Larry, Eisly, Duhan, MDA, Sonny Werblin, Dolan,

Don't forget Mooby!

IronWillGiroud wrote:cubs are storied but their story is a comedy,

STORIED doesn't mean that it was all positive. The Reggie Miller antics and The Greatness Jordan often displayed at the Garden added to the story. The "storied" part does not mean the Knicks were always the winner in those INCREDIBLY compelling games. You guys are misconstruing what they mean when they say storied.

The GREAT ONES would usually bring their A GAMES when playing at MSG and some of the displays were fabulous.

playa2 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Thank God we have Nalod as one of our Knicks fans to point this out!

Classic Nalod.

You think he's a REAL KNICKS fan. LOL

Some of these people are PRO BASKETBALL FANS who happen to post on a Knicks forum site.

Now Now, no need to lower the conversation into the gutter and subject others to it. I know your looking for some conformation as an act of self affirmation for your views.

If you think I am not a fan Im ok with that. Our words speak for themselves. You might be insulting others by thinking they can't provide their own opinion.

You want to hang it out that the home team is under pressure to win. Thats cool. Just debate it like a man with and back it up. If you want to giggle just make sure they laughing with you and not at you.

DurzoBlint wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:cubs are storied but their story is a comedy,

STORIED doesn't mean that it was all positive. The Reggie Miller antics and The Greatness Jordan often displayed at the Garden added to the story. The "storied" part does not mean the Knicks were always the winner in those INCREDIBLY compelling games. You guys are misconstruing what they mean when they say storied.

The GREAT ONES would usually bring their A GAMES when playing at MSG and some of the displays were fabulous.

there was a statement in a diff thread here -- "JR Smith does not deserve to wear the uniform of this storied franchise". given the context of jr smith, i would read that to mean positive aspects of storied as it relates to the knicks.

i do not see the knicks as a storied franchise as compared to the big dogs -- lakers and celtics. if you are a franchise that has been around long enough, its gonna be real hard not to meet the book definition of storied so perhaps a diff term should be in play.

jrodmc wrote:

Nalod wrote:LIke I said, the reference was "JR Smith does not deserve to wear the uniform of this storied franchise"..........

I admit, I got "Storied" wrong. I was under the belief "storied" was a positive descriptor instead of one just steep in history.

My bad.

I am a fan but I don't view my team with rose colored glasses and pretend our franchise is above reproach because we have:

We have Willis in the tunnel.
We have Clyde.
We have Debusschere, Bradley, etc etc.
We have the Ewing Era.
We have two chips.

We HAD Cyle, We HAD, Willis, ETCETC.....

HAD!!!!

I forget, but "storied" is about as past tense as you can get, right? Or is that your point? Or not?

Rockets HAD Hakeem!
Rockets HAD Kenny Smiff!
Bulls HAD MJ!
Everyone HAD Robert Horry!

Let's recap:

You show the Knicks only have two chips and don't measure up to 6 whole other teams in the entire 70 year history of the league.
You mention how "Houston has as many chips in less time"

And what, precisely, are we supposed to derive from this?

1) JR should be able to wipe his azz with the uniform, let alone wear it, because this aint no "storied" franchise!
2) Anyone who thinks differently is actually wet dreaming blue and orange relish onto themselves, while fogging up their rose colored glasses.
3) If you happen to get past #2 above, you're actually a Mooby loving Dolanite minion with no true sense of NBA rationality.
4) Only true fans honestly pee on themselves, while feeling all warm and gooshy about other, truly "storied" franchises.

Lesson learned.

We derive that "storied" has differnet meanings.

Some Hyper-Mooby homers see the knicks with an aura of greatness worthy of the city as the harbinger holding the "Mecca" of the basketball world. One thought JR was not worthy of wearing the uniformed of the "storied" franchise.

Knicks are .500 basketball team who missed the playoffs 37% of the time, and has two chips. While Detroits history has a worse winning % but 3 chips is not that great either, im not on Detroits treads debating if their orginal 6 inclusion and history is worth of the "Storied" label, we talking JR.

We have learned that "Storied" does not mean "positive History" as I thought. We think, we speak, we are corrected, we learn.

Is Jr's standards of integrity and on court consistantcy befitting to be a knick? The legends of Starks, Marbury, Ray Williams (RIP, no disrespect), Nate, Tickey, and Michael Ray all might agree he is in the club.

1) JR should be able to wipe his azz with the uniform, let alone wear it, because this aint no "storied" franchise!
2) Anyone who thinks differently is actually wet dreaming blue and orange relish onto themselves, while fogging up their rose colored glasses.
3) If you happen to get past #2 above, you're actually a Mooby loving Dolanite minion with no true sense of NBA rationality.
4) Only true fans honestly pee on themselves, while feeling all warm and gooshy about other, truly "storied" franchises.

While I would not go as far as you I'd say the satire is not quite to the intensity I'd go for but we often deliver effective messages thru the use of humor!

BTW, funny Stuff!!!!

All I really want is some nice knick video in HD. Problem is it was not around when such moments occured!

DurzoBlint wrote:

sidsanders wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:cubs are storied but their story is a comedy,

STORIED doesn't mean that it was all positive. The Reggie Miller antics and The Greatness Jordan often displayed at the Garden added to the story. The "storied" part does not mean the Knicks were always the winner in those INCREDIBLY compelling games. You guys are misconstruing what they mean when they say storied.

The GREAT ONES would usually bring their A GAMES when playing at MSG and some of the displays were fabulous.

there was a statement in a diff thread here -- "JR Smith does not deserve to wear the uniform of this storied franchise". given the context of jr smith, i would read that to mean positive aspects of storied as it relates to the knicks.

i do not see the knicks as a storied franchise as compared to the big dogs -- lakers and celtics. if you are a franchise that has been around long enough, its gonna be real hard not to meet the book definition of storied so perhaps a diff term should be in play.

Then your totally discounting my post without actually refuting it.

the comment that started all this was alluding to the positive aspects of storied as they relate to the knicks. that is why folks were assuming its positive from what i can see. in terms of the other comments on cubs/indians/etc what you say does fit. thats why i was mentioning only the knicks bits.

edit: wasnt trying to refute you. just pointing out why things seemed to be going off on positive aspects