AnubisADL wrote:If Nate is good he will impress in workouts against other guards in his class. I haven't heard any reports of that happening.

I think they said Nate did very well against all of the other PGs at the combine.

Jmpasq wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Caseloads wrote:you really think Nate Wolters will be good?

he looks super slow in all the youtube clips and you need speed at PG

I think Nate is going to be real good.

Some people really like him. I'm not 1 of them at least for the Knicks roster.

That is a legitimate question--for the Knicks roster. I like Nate a tad more than I like Eric Green but I think Green may fit this roster better. I still think they are both radically undervalued in this draft. I also like Muscala where we are drafting--if he agrees to put on 12-15 hard pds--he could be a really really good PF for 10-15 years--I mean the kind of guy who can be a 20-10 player. Hes got to put on those 15 hard pds--but he has the skills to be a 20-10 player imho. Having a 6-11 245 skilled PF is very very attractive both for short and long term. Is there a way we can sneak Green/Wolters and Muscala on to this roster? Id be very willing to spend this years 3mm on that initiative.

Ill also say drafting(or not drafting) a player because of *fit* can be a disaster. I think you take the BPA for your team--you cna weigh the decisions of fit style of player readiness etc... but you don't want to take an inferior player just to fit one year. I can think of a lot of things worse we can do than getting a high charahcter 6-5 PG who handles the ball wonderfully with great vision who can shoot score rebound and really pass it. He has all of the skills--if he could jump 38 inches hed be the first pick in the draft.

knickstorrents wrote:Briggs the Wages of Wins site agrees with you:

http://wagesofwins.com/2013/05/28/ranking-the-top-11-ncaa-prospects-at-each-position/

Top rated PG based on Wp40 is Nate Wolters. Erick Green also rated highly. Muscala top ranked Center!

If both you and advanced stats agree, that pretty much rules out the Knicks picking them though.

3G4G wrote:We'll probably sign Jamal Tinsley to a 3yr deal....YUM YUM!!!

Tinsley is slower than Prigs at this point.

GustavBahler wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Easy.

Draft or free agency. We need more backcourt speed!

I dont see us keeping Prigioni either. Hes a limited player who will be 36 or 37? Plus we would likley have to dip into the mLE and we cant do that for Prigioni.

the offense ran better under Prigs than any of our other guards so, I say he's a keeper

I wouldn't mind keeping him but if he's our starting PG next season we're in trouble.

For vet min players and lower salaries like the 2m BI ANNUAL EXEMPTION maybe even splitting 5m MLE on 2 players if we can trade Chandler for salary cap relief with trade exemption and 2nd round picks (draft some PG's that will fall)

2m
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Randy Foye
Gary Neal
Aaron Brooks

Vet min
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Will Bynum
AJ Price

Brian Roberts *2nd year player on rookie deal in New Orleans*
Jannero Pargo
Patty Mills
Livingston
Mike James

Hope we can add Rasheed Wallace and Jason Kidd on our coaching staff and would even add Brian Shaw at a high salary as we need new voices for this team

For the draft someone would likely drop to the 2nd round, if we look to trade for...

Pierre Jackson
Nate Wolters
Eric Green

Archie Goodwin
Ray McCallum

Lorenzo Brown *think he is comparable to Livingston without the knee concerns but Livingston has but could be available for the vet min*

While Larkin and Scrhodder are unlikely to drop to us at 24

playa2 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Easy.

Draft or free agency. We need more backcourt speed!

I dont see us keeping Prigioni either. Hes a limited player who will be 36 or 37? Plus we would likley have to dip into the mLE and we cant do that for Prigioni.

the offense ran better under Prigs than any of our other guards so, I say he's a keeper

Anybody who didn't see that really just hates the guy.

Hyperbole aside, some of us are concerned that Prigs wouldn't last an entire season as starting PG. And there is his aversion to taking it to the rim even when he has a clear path. This season he wasn't a known commodity, but next year other teams are going to make adjustments. If he can make a few layups now and then to keep the D honest then that would be different.

Prigioni helped save the season and get us that higher seed so I doubt anyone here seriously hates him. If they do then they aren't worth the ink, so to speak.

loweyecue wrote:You guys realize our "coach" thinks Rookies should just sit in the bench and learn, right?