yellowboy90 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:Little bigger simple trade.

Novak, Camby, 2014 2nd rd pk, and 3 million to Toronto

for

Andrea Bargnani.

Nobody else wants that contract it seems so why not get a shooter and have someone pay you for a year for a back up center. Then cut him and save money. They could possibly save 8 million or so and get a draft pick.

I would actually be pleased to see that happen. As long as guys can except his shortcomings. He will likely never be a good rebounder or defender but, the guy can sure shoot the ball and is a far more mobile than a Novak.

Exactly, everyone knows that Barg has short comings and a bad contract but so does Novak and Camby. Why not consolidate the bad money into one guy and open up a roster spot? The problem is that Barg not only is not a good defender, although he did rate high in one study if I recall, or rebounder he also can't stay healthy.

Some people talk about a 'stretch 4' to play with Melo... I think a Melo, Bargs, Chandler frontcourt would work very well as Bargs won't get in Melo's way in the post. His shortcomings would actually fit quite nicely here

SupremeCommander wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:Little bigger simple trade.

Novak, Camby, 2014 2nd rd pk, and 3 million to Toronto

for

Andrea Bargnani.

Nobody else wants that contract it seems so why not get a shooter and have someone pay you for a year for a back up center. Then cut him and save money. They could possibly save 8 million or so and get a draft pick.

I would actually be pleased to see that happen. As long as guys can except his shortcomings. He will likely never be a good rebounder or defender but, the guy can sure shoot the ball and is a far more mobile than a Novak.

Exactly, everyone knows that Barg has short comings and a bad contract but so does Novak and Camby. Why not consolidate the bad money into one guy and open up a roster spot? The problem is that Barg not only is not a good defender, although he did rate high in one study if I recall, or rebounder he also can't stay healthy.

Some people talk about a 'stretch 4' to play with Melo... I think a Melo, Bargs, Chandler frontcourt would work very well as Bargs won't get in Melo's way in the post. His shortcomings would actually fit quite nicely here

It really more about him fitting nicely with Tyson. Can Tyson get back to playing great D

Knixkik wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:There really aren't any trades that the Knicks can make with our situation other than Melo for a boatload of picks and players. If you were another team, which of the players in the Knicks would you want that you have an equal contract value? Outside Melo....Shump and maybe Felton. I would not trade for others we have unless we are fleecing us. The type of moves Donnie did but since we don't have anything to sweeten the pot for these contracts we can't even do that.

There are always deals out there, just tough to predict what and who. We have a first round pick and non guaranteed contracts so i wouldn't be suprised if we make a big move on draft day.

I hope you are right. I love looking for possible deals in the off-season and just posting it here. This year, I am having problems making one up that does not include Melo.

Knixkik wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:There really aren't any trades that the Knicks can make with our situation other than Melo for a boatload of picks and players. If you were another team, which of the players in the Knicks would you want that you have an equal contract value? Outside Melo....Shump and maybe Felton. I would not trade for others we have unless we are fleecing us. The type of moves Donnie did but since we don't have anything to sweeten the pot for these contracts we can't even do that.

There are always deals out there, just tough to predict what and who. We have a first round pick and non guaranteed contracts so i wouldn't be suprised if we make a big move on draft day.

I hope you are right. I love looking for possible deals in the off-season and just posting it here. This year, I am having problems making one up that does not include Melo.

I think a deal for Ilyasova, Bargnani, or Chandler for Bledsoe/Jordan are all possible ideas. They are out there.

Bucks love Ilyasova. They are not letting him go for what we have.

Bargs? djsunyc might become a Knick fan again if this happens but who would they want? They need a SG so Shump would have to be dealt. Bargs has a big contract so you would have to send more contacts to make it work. You would have to add Camby and Novak. They might do that but would you?

Chandler for Bledsoe/Jordan. I don't think Sterling is that dumb to trade away 2 players in that caliber for 1 player in same caliber. They lose out pretty badly.

Knixkik wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:There really aren't any trades that the Knicks can make with our situation other than Melo for a boatload of picks and players. If you were another team, which of the players in the Knicks would you want that you have an equal contract value? Outside Melo....Shump and maybe Felton. I would not trade for others we have unless we are fleecing us. The type of moves Donnie did but since we don't have anything to sweeten the pot for these contracts we can't even do that.

There are always deals out there, just tough to predict what and who. We have a first round pick and non guaranteed contracts so i wouldn't be suprised if we make a big move on draft day.

I hope you are right. I love looking for possible deals in the off-season and just posting it here. This year, I am having problems making one up that does not include Melo.

I think a deal for Ilyasova, Bargnani, or Chandler for Bledsoe/Jordan are all possible ideas. They are out there.

Bucks love Ilyasova. They are not letting him go for what we have.

Bargs? djsunyc might become a Knick fan again if this happens but who would they want? They need a SG so Shump would have to be dealt. Bargs has a big contract so you would have to send more contacts to make it work. You would have to add Camby and Novak. They might do that but would you?

Chandler for Bledsoe/Jordan. I don't think Sterling is that dumb to trade away 2 players in that caliber for 1 player in same caliber. They lose out pretty badly.

Ilyasova was on the trade block all season, i wouldn't say they love him. With all their emerging young bigs, and their interest in Josh Smith who would start at PF, i think it's safe to say he will be on the block again this offseason.

OK. Say you are right and he is on the block. Who do they want that we have outside of Melo? I only see Shump that they would want. Also, to make the trade work you will need to send contracts with Shump. The only combination that would work is Shump, White, Copeland and Camby. That might work for MIL. Would you trade Shump and Copeland for Ilyasova?

NYKBocker wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:There really aren't any trades that the Knicks can make with our situation other than Melo for a boatload of picks and players. If you were another team, which of the players in the Knicks would you want that you have an equal contract value? Outside Melo....Shump and maybe Felton. I would not trade for others we have unless we are fleecing us. The type of moves Donnie did but since we don't have anything to sweeten the pot for these contracts we can't even do that.

There are always deals out there, just tough to predict what and who. We have a first round pick and non guaranteed contracts so i wouldn't be suprised if we make a big move on draft day.

I hope you are right. I love looking for possible deals in the off-season and just posting it here. This year, I am having problems making one up that does not include Melo.

I think a deal for Ilyasova, Bargnani, or Chandler for Bledsoe/Jordan are all possible ideas. They are out there.

Bucks love Ilyasova. They are not letting him go for what we have.

Bargs? djsunyc might become a Knick fan again if this happens but who would they want? They need a SG so Shump would have to be dealt. Bargs has a big contract so you would have to send more contacts to make it work. You would have to add Camby and Novak. They might do that but would you?

Chandler for Bledsoe/Jordan. I don't think Sterling is that dumb to trade away 2 players in that caliber for 1 player in same caliber. They lose out pretty badly.

Ilyasova was on the trade block all season, i wouldn't say they love him. With all their emerging young bigs, and their interest in Josh Smith who would start at PF, i think it's safe to say he will be on the block again this offseason.

OK. Say you are right and he is on the block. Who do they want that we have outside of Melo? I only see Shump that they would want. Also, to make the trade work you will need to send contracts with Shump. The only combination that would work is Shump, White, Copeland and Camby. That might work for MIL. Would you trade Shump and Copeland for Ilyasova?

They would want cap space and assets. Our draft pick and cash would be assets. Qrich and White would pose as cap space. Novak could replace the need for shooting you lose in Ilyasova at a cheaper rate and hes a hometown guy for them.