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Finestrg
Posts: 27296 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/1/2006 Member: #1069 |
5/25/2013 3:56 PM
I feel ya Nard...Hard to let talent get away for nothing, even wildly misguided talent like this guy. And I feel ya on not going into next season with this guy as the Robin to Melo's batman. If we enter next season with this guy as the 2nd banana again, we're in trouble. We'll go through another 50-win season but when we need it most in the playoffs, this dude's MIA. Not once, but 2 years in a row now!!
If we're entertaining the possibility of a S&T involving JR (if we're even allowed to S&T our own FAs--still not clear if we can or not), I fear the only thing we might be able to swing is a trade that involves one headache for another --- something like the move some guys were talking about for Michael Beasley. See I'd do that trade -- 6'10" 240, very talented and about 4-5 younger than Smith. Wouldn't be terrible. Dude had a down year last year but he was good in Miami & Minny. 6'10" SF/PF Michael Beasley trade with PHX Add that plus another cost-effective signing or 2, that wouldn't be a terrible off-season. I actually put up a post about Selby on another board back in March when the Cavs released him and got laughed at. LOL. Believed in his talent back then (and before then in Kansas), and I still do now. Still holding out hope that Glen gets creative and does what he needs to do to rejuvenate this roster. It can be done. The man has a plethora of opportunities out there available to him. |
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VCoug
Posts: 24935 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/28/2007 Member: #1406 |
5/25/2013 4:16 PM LAST EDITED: 5/25/2013 4:18 PM
NardDogNation wrote:Finestrg wrote:NardDogNation wrote:VCoug wrote:NardDogNation wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Knicks are old as dirt and thin at the guard position. I'm not depending on Chris Smith to do anything but keep a seat warm on the bench. Agreed about the nepotism and I'm even more worried because each of the last 3 seasons we've needed every guy on the roster to provide us valuable minutes and it's rough if we are wasting a roster spot on a guy who doesn't belong in the NBA. I understand everyone's hesitation about bringing JR back but we can't replace and I don't believe it would be addition by subtraction. The problem isn't totally with JR but the fact that we have to rely on JR. If we could get better players around JR then we wouldn't have to live and die by him. EDIT: And, $5M/year for JR is very reasonable and if he plays reasonably close to this past season he could become a good trade asset if we needed. Now the joy of my world is in Zion
How beautiful if nothing more
Than to wait at Zion's door
I've never been in love like this before
Now let me pray to keep you from
The perils that will surely come
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NardDogNation
Posts: 27405 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 5/7/2013 Member: #5555 |
5/25/2013 5:25 PM
Finestrg wrote:I feel ya Nard...Hard to let talent get away for nothing, even wildly misguided talent like this guy. And I feel ya on not going into next season with this guy as the Robin to Melo's batman. If we enter next season with this guy as the 2nd banana again, we're in trouble. We'll go through another 50-win season but when we need it most in the playoffs, this dude's MIA. Not once, but 2 years in a row now!! A leopard apparently never changes his spots. While debating Knickcity, I was able to talk a much closer look at JR's performance in the playoffs and it has been horrible. He shot above 37% just one time in and that happened the first season the Nuggets acquired Chauncey Billups to be Melo's no.2 man. The rest of Smith's game was bearable but his worth doesn't come from anything he can do without the ball. For that reason, I'm definitely open to moving him but with that history I don't think we'd get equal value. It really is a tough situation but I still find myself being optimistic, when I'm usually a pessimist in most respects. I wonder what teams would even want him; I could only think of the Clippers and Nets being interested, maybe the Grizzlies. I've thought about taking a waiver on Beasley but not for Smith. I kinda feel that would be a lateral move and with Melo at the 4, it becomes a bit redundant. I think we could and maybe should get him for Novak if his contract doesn't extend past 2015. |
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NardDogNation
Posts: 27405 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 5/7/2013 Member: #5555 |
5/25/2013 5:29 PM
VCoug wrote:NardDogNation wrote:Finestrg wrote:NardDogNation wrote:VCoug wrote:NardDogNation wrote:AnubisADL wrote:Knicks are old as dirt and thin at the guard position. I'm not depending on Chris Smith to do anything but keep a seat warm on the bench. Yeah, I think I'd prefer to keep JR. The only thing that is holding me back is the rumors of him being a cokehead. Imagine we give this dude a 5 year deal and he needs to go into rehab and/or goes the way of a Roy Tarpley and completely bombs in his play. In spite of the playoffs, we look at his play and excuse everything else but that everything else could completely sabotage the only good reason to keep him around. |
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knicks1248
Posts: 42059 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #582 |
5/25/2013 6:03 PM LAST EDITED: 5/25/2013 6:08 PM
Selby was always a good shooter, the kid was a super star in high school, but couldn't stay out of trouble Then his first season at college, he got hurt and miss most of the season. Had he stayed in school another yr he would have develope more, but because of financial reason and bad advice he chose to get in the draft thinking he was a sure 1st rounder and ended the last pick in the 2nd round (shumps draft).
But he's a JR type player, ok (to flashy) passer (better then TD) and a awful one on one defender. He doesn't have much fundamentals and hangs with the wrong crowd on a regular.. he looks good in those clips but theres a reason he's in the DL ES
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SupremeCommander
Posts: 34064 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
5/26/2013 9:38 PM
Selby might be a smart buy low type of signing. as long as he gets a short leash and is considered replaceable
DLeethal wrote:
Lol Rick needs a safe space
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