RonRon wrote:he reminds of a Troy Murphy with less athleticism and not as good of a shooter in his better years
I don't think he fits well with Tyson Chandler *unless Chandler regains his mobility/speed/athleticism/strength and is a solid 1v1 defender and good help defender*
A lot of Chandler's improved rebounds have come from *TAP OUT's that should NOT be counted as a rebound but recently did*
For Tyson to be successful he must be the only weak link on the floor and play with a versatile SF and PF, including a PG that has the ability to penetrate and do a bit of everything
The team must also be aggressive and solid on DEF with good BB IQ and quite honestly, we didn't have that in addition to the health problems and effort problems of Chandler this play offsThey are just too slow as they both need to work on their speed with a better philosophy on OFFENSE than ISO to get role players involved in a system
As I suggested earlier, Camby was in Woodson's doghouse and DID NOT play because Woodson's loyalty to Chandler/Amare/Martin rather than "his injury of planter faciletes
He has always been productive when given 20-30minutes a game in his entire career and was NOT when playing under 15minutes a game
I still believe he can contribute at a high level and could be no worse than what Tyson Chandler was playing in this year's playoffs if given the chance
How Muscula develops, continues to work hard, and if he reaches his full potential is another story
To me, he is a 2nd round pick and not worthy of a our pick unless we trade down for him like Nate Walters, Pierre Jackson, both McCullums', with a few other players like Solomin Hill
I really like Pierre Jackson and see a bit of Nate Robinson with real PG skills unlike Nate's earlier years, and being a poor man's version of Cp3
For our pick, my opinion would be, we need to either upgrade PG *with speed/quickness to initiate the OFFENSE* or SF possibly SF/PF that can do a bit of EVERYTHING
We have 2 SG's in Smith/Iman that one play's SF and is just too small to defend Paul George/Lebron/Durant/Rudy Gay etc
Shane Larkin *which I think Pacer's will grab right before us*
Giannis Atedembo *he is a project, very young, is quite raw, but but his potential is quite high*
He is the SF/PF with all round skills, athleticism, length, versatility, all round skills, and huge hands
is only 18 and could still be growing as he continues to fill out body *only about 200 pds) and reminds me of a bit between AK47 and Ibaka
Both solid players that likely be ready to contribute right away but with less "potential"
Sergey Karasev a very good shooter that is a SF with good all round skills, and plays within a TEAM CONCEPT
Glen Rice JR with a taste of playing with D League and carrying the team to the finals
Both have good potential and can contribute but slightly too high for our pick
Allen Crabbe
Archie Goodwin
With Pablo and Copeland, I don't think it worth using our mini MLE to keep and I am 50/50 about Copeland *I think he is worth it but we have so many positions to fill and Woodson just doesn't utilize him to his strengths for the "big names like Amare and players that coach likes"
Say we can package both of them to The Spur's for a combined 5m trade exemption and 2 2nd round picks, one in this year's draft and next years draft, it is something we have to consider *would prefer Spur's 1st round pick this year but doubt that is happening*
Unless we can find a taker for Tyson CHandler to a team like Portland for multiple 2nd round picks (they have picks 38,39,45 this year), our 2nd round pick last summer *says he wants out of Portland*, and the trade exemption of 10-14m
Again, this isn't about getting value for Chandler himself, it is about going under the luxury tax, and regaining the flexibility/asset's/exemptions with 10-14m/ 5m MLE vs 3m mini mle, and possibly even the 2m Bi Annual Exemption
If we made a move like this I would be in favoring of keeping Copeland
But with Kidd already here, I just don't think Pablo is worth keeping with Felton unable to defend PG *for majority of the league* and SG's *for the contenders*
I think we just need much more speed on both ends of the floor on DEF and OFF, penetration, and ability to facilitate the team
With our 2nd year players in Q, Earl Barron, trade exemption in Brewer, + 150% rule, 3m in cash, I would target players *that are realistic options* like
Brandon Rush - he is coming of a knee injury but has a player option for 4m on 1 year
He was very efficient player in limited minutes, REB/DEF/1 block + 1 STEAL/ and had good length/athleticism
Barea(probably more realistic without including assets and just salary dump)
Ridnour/Sessions *would most likely require an asset with at least a 2nd round pick*
Nelson *not sure how we can get him since he has a higher salary though*
I wouldn't mind James Johnson as a vet min player and would give him a 2 year contract
We just need much more size in our SF/PF department
Stephen Jackson/Ron Artest(if amnestied) would fit the younger SF/PF as vet min contract is
Thing is we don't have much roster spots and Chris Wright would hold one as well while we need upgrades in many positions with a youth movement that can contribute and still continue to develop for our future
With all the players like Rhondo/Rose/Granger and team's improving with salary cap/exemptions/amenstied possibilities it would be a much tougher next season as this year was likely our best chance in going all the way/at least ECF
Scary thing about Pacer's is they could still trade Granger or at least amnesty him while still having the ability to go after a max layer like Cp3 or 2-3 solid players while keeping their core together with the development of Plumlee as their PF/C in his 2nd year
Still remember some poster's saying "PACER"S DO NOT strike fear in me"
Well Paul George is a big reason of their improvements that is a max talent that does not have EGO issues and plays well in all aspect's of the game in terms of DEF/Facilitating/Scoring or doing whatever is needed without for the benefit of the team rather than playing like he thinks he is a LEGEND already
His ability to defend Melo/Lebron 1v1 with Hibbert in the back helping is a big part of the Pacer's success with his combination of size/length/athleticism/ and all round skills
He is already more talented than Melo in all aspects of the game *besides scoring* and is only going to get better, while his "max pay" will be 5-10m less than what Melo could be starting at for his next contract in a Joe Johnson type deal
His talent is comparable to a younger Tmac/Grant Hill and with great DEF plus work ethic
I believe the Knicks being over the cap requires them to take back dollar for dollar in a trade. I believe that is part of the new cba. It was one of the reasons Coon suggested that the Knicks match Lin and then waive him in year three and use the stretch provision to lessen the cap hit. I could be wrong but I think this is how it is set up. Teams over the cap are very restricted in what they are allowed to do player movement wise. Also, I am angry with Tyson for going to the media about the team and coaches and taking no ownership for his play but I wouldn't trade him for just second round picks.
5/26/2013 10:52 AM