dk7th wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Good find!

i think barkley is one of the most astute basketball minds around. he called out dirk years ago about not having a low post game, dirk listened and got himself a post game, and has a title to show for it. there is a reason he wins emmys and it's not because he is a "character." frankly i think shaq has an astute mind as well. i like that crew a lot. another favorite of mine is jon barry.

you know you're good when the majority of knick fans hate you.

Shaq said a player was the best center in the nba and then got his name wrong moments later when asked to elaborate. He is the definition of comic relief.

I can tell he is an astute basketball mind by the way he chants "birdman birdman" every two minutes, his voice flowing with wisdom and insight.

holfresh wrote:

Nalod wrote:
I like charles and don't mind when he hates on us becuase we have been worth of his scorn. Homers don't get that and take it personal.

Dude is never 100% correct, nor is anyone else. I don't like what he said about us not getting thru the 2nd round and the pacers being better.

Just like u take it personally when people knock Gallo or MDA or Teflon Donnie or the Nets...

Sorry, I don't rant like a 14 year old painting charles "Gay" as if to discredit him, or when Donnie is painted with "Fault". Same for misinformation about any Knick GM. Regarding Gallo, I don't defend his stats or really defend him. I am adamant that constant thinking that we'd still have the same roster as 3 years ago is silly when Moobyites rush to defend him.

Personally I think the Nyets were better on paper and had little chemistry. I think their bench was almost too deep and the rotations never got right. I thought when Amare went down at the beginning of the season the Knicks would finish behind Nyets.

Does that make me a "bad fan"? Do I have to prove my "belief" over and over to satisfy some?

Nalod don't bash knicks and I talk about other teams objectively. Its not important if a posters is right or wrong, its an opinion and we can choose to discuss it or not.

The Nyets in the last year are very interesting. The business model, marketing approach (rebranding) and roster construction is interesting to me. Does it make me a knick hating troll?

Pacers losing Granger and the 2 seed most of the season was also worth reading up on and Im really not bend out of shape we lost to them. They a good team and the type of team they are would be trouble for us.

I hate that we did lose, but no imbecilic ranting for another coaches head or blame on a GM gone two seasons is going to matter.

Why Defend Walsh?

You have Grunfeld rebuilding the team basically without ewing. Pat knowing his numbers would suffer becomes a problem for new coach Don Nelson and has him fired. Grunfeld continues youthier faster team but has the wrong coach for it. JVG keeps winning but does not adapt to new roster despite finals push and one has to go. JVG 2 year extension kicks in with trip to finals.

Patsy Layden is installed 1n 99' and the Ewing problem has manifested itself to the point he is way over paid and now a distraction. forces trade which few GM's can come out looking good with.

Laydens attempt to rebuild with Role players is miserable failure and the Garden is dying. No problem with his removal but a mid season starphuch Isiah is hired to much fanfare and we learn that constant change is really cool and fun, but change is not always an improvement.

Donnie is bought in by league request to clean it up. MDA is hired and in time the wrong roster is constructed for the coach all the while Cap Space is cultivated. This is a constant problem for the team over the years.

Nalod don't have a voice in any matters but for the few fans who come here I can only help understand my perspective which is the decisions are poorly made and the symptoms show up LATER in the form of the roster or the coach. Often both.

Knicks defied a ton of logic this year and all the while Nalod said Woodson was coaching this team "above its head" which is to say he did a great job getting 54 wins out of it. This was my hope that it would continue but expectation was low so Im not a bitter gay bashing fan looking to lablel Charles over his mostly correct statements over the last 10 years, or rant how we are phuched, heads should roll, and idiotic Amare/chandler trades.

The fact he said the nets would be better does not discredit him because he is mostly a talking head and spews lots of thingsright and wrong. In the face of a 50+ winning season and a high seed he did not move from his position like many did. That adds credibility to some respects.

dk7th wrote:

Dagger wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Good find!

i think barkley is one of the most astute basketball minds around. he called out dirk years ago about not having a low post game, dirk listened and got himself a post game, and has a title to show for it. there is a reason he wins emmys and it's not because he is a "character." frankly i think shaq has an astute mind as well. i like that crew a lot. another favorite of mine is jon barry.

you know you're good when the majority of knick fans hate you.

Shaq said a player was the best center in the nba and then got his name wrong moments later when asked to elaborate. He is the definition of comic relief.

I can tell he is an astute basketball mind by the way he chants "birdman birdman" every two minutes, his voice flowing with wisdom and insight.

so shaq is a fan of andersen and barkley is a fan of ginobili. are they not allowed to express mirth?

who did shaq say was the best center? i missed that show.

I think he was highly complimentary that BroPez was a better center than Dwight. Last season he was. Shaq did not say "forever".

I think he said Bropez was top 5?

I really don't remember. Best Center is Marc Gasol this past season.

There are no "Greats" at the moment from a historical perspective.

TURRIBLE!!

Phuckin' guy thinks Tyson Chandler is 6'8 and Shumperts return earlier this season might mess up the offense.

He's strictly there for entertainment and comic relief, not his basketball analysis, or knowledge of the game.

Just another blowhard.

Nalod wrote:

All true, and he don't like the knicks.

He thought the Nets would be better, and in March said KNicks won't get past 2nd round.

Hence the title "Damn Knick Hater was prophetic back in March"!

Not,

"Charles Barkley is teaching my kid how to speak improperly!"

or..........

"Charles is not always accurate!"

He thought, like many, that the Nets would be better and have a better record. They all were wrong about that. So if by prophetic, you mean, got some right and some wrong, I'd say we have a different definition of the word prophet.

Barkley was more wrong than right about the knicks this year but you are free to highlight what you like if it makes you feel good about him, yourself or the knicks.

subzero0 wrote:

BasketballJones wrote:"Even a broken clock is right twice a day"

Yes, you're absolutely right except for the fact that the Knicks are the broken clock.

Its stuck on May 10th 1973.

There are plenty of broken clocks.

BasketballJones wrote:

subzero0 wrote:

BasketballJones wrote:"Even a broken clock is right twice a day"

Yes, you're absolutely right except for the fact that the Knicks are the broken clock.

Its stuck on May 10th 1973.

There are plenty of broken clocks.

If that's the measurement of broken clocks, then charley the mouth doesn't even know how to tell time. Which Dr. O'Neill and Kenny Smith are only too eager to remind him.

So do we revive the "Sir Charles was wrong about the Nyets" thread?

Yes indeedy, Mr. Credibility strikes again!

tj23 wrote:LOL Barkley is an idiot. Knick hater? I always thought so but who knows? Just because some of the **** he threw against the wall stuck for omce doesnt make him knowledgable or intelligent. His rants make for good tv though.

if he was an enthusiastic fan of the knicks would that make him smarter?